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Poll Question: Nominate one track and vote for three
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Raff (continued)
Simple Minds - Belfast Child. This type of music does not appeal so much to me, especially with the synth strings which make it rather new age-like, as well as the over-the-top production towards the end. But I like the melody. It's not entirely unlike U2, and there is an Irish tin whistle towards the end. The Admirals Hard song sounds quite maritime (reminds me of "What Shall We Do with the Drunken Sailor" for instance), and it is not without humour. I like it much better than the previous one. Weird video.

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James Holden and the Animal Spirits begins in the more experimental area with several noise sounds. Then a drumbeat sets in, and there's a change towards an odd time signature.  Very interesting piece which I really enjoy listening to. I have the band bookmarked for further examination.

Tin Hat Trio - Width of the World begins with acoustic guitar fingerpicking with some drone sounds and noise sounds in the background. Interesting combination between the folkloristic guitar playing and the more experimental backdrop (also a contrast between warm and cold). Then enter an accordion and a violin adding more warmth, until the violin begins to play "ugly" sounds with some sound effects. The accordion still represents the warm and natural as the rhythm intensifies. Harmonically there's a striking use of the tritonus (major fourth or lower fifth) - "the devil in the music" as it was called in the Middle Ages. Helium Reprise begins with what sounds like something from a serialist piece of string music, but the actual song is more like a tango. The voice of Tom Waits fits perfectly into the universe. There are also some rather weird percussion breaks, as well as some pizzicato violin notes towards the end.

Hanafugestu - Crimson: I think I have come across the band before. To be honest it is not so much my taste (the sound is a bit too soft perhaps). Unfolk - Bedroom Discotheque: The composition reminds me a bit of R.E.M. (the topic would also be up their alley). I like the way the lyrics play on the double meaning of vinyl. I think the lyrics are considerably stronger than the music. Paul Pena - Tuva Farewell: Throat singing is definitely not really for me, but I like the actual song which is more bluesy or country'ish. Perhaps a bit too long for that style.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2021 at 17:38
After pretty much agonizing deliberation, here are my votes:

 1.  George:   Wu Fei & Abigail Washburn “The Roving Cowboy/Avarguli”  Begins with some beautiful guzheng strumming, plucking, and string bending.   Abigail joins in with her haunting voice and an even more haunting Wu Fei harmonizes with her.  Reminiscent of Fairport Convention’s, “Come All Ye” (may be the same tune, but different lyrics).  I’m guessing this is a blending of this bluegrass/country/folk tune with another folk tune from Wu Fei’s tradition.  They trade back and forth and end up with an almost chanted duet.  If more bluegrass were like this, it would be way higher on my typical listening list.  Just stunning, there is truly no better word.  I loved and highlighted so many of yours this time (my way of keeping track of what I want to consider should it come up to vote), but this one does take the cake. 

2.  The Anders:   Väsen “IPA -Gubben”  Most excellent Swedish folk trio here….I’m quite familiar with the nyckelharpa (have actually played with one before) wonderful instrument!  I do not know of this piece or these people, however.  The music is lively and the blend of the lower viola with nyckelharpa and guitar , goes so beautifully together.  During the piece, they also slow it down a bit and get contemplative, everyone has a moment to shine here.  Just love it.  This one won over Mike’s just a tad, because of a nostalgic feeling I got from it, reminding me of days when in a Santa Cruz café, all of the local ethnic folk players would gather and play together, trading songs off. 

As stated, Mike’s entry of Fovea Hex  “You Were There, was the contender for second place here.  I did find it very moving, but in a different way and went for joyful this time.  Deep cellos start this one out, with a haunting vocal, very much liking this, I agree with you, it certainly has folk elements.  Hypnotic, with a sense of medieval chant.

3.  dr wu23’s Espers “Rosemary Lane”  I’m familiar with the tune from Bert Jansch’s version.  A really beautiful, wistful version of this folk song, one of the “cautionary tales,” type.   Lovely arrangement with strings and a delicate female vocal, as well as guitars.  This is done in such a classic style of presentation, I just have to go with this for #3 choice. 

Contenders for third choice were Shadowyard’s, Obscurus Orbis “Kost Ar C’hoat;” Logan’s, Mark Fry “The Witch;”  and Lewian’s, Solarference “Cold Blows the Wind."

The remainder of entries all had wonderful music to bring, this is one of my favourite genres of music, so it’s hard to not like everything I heard.  The only reasons for not being among the Top 3 or contenders was George’s amazing last-minute entry, coupled with either knowing a selection already (Raff!), or selecting one that wasn’t my very favourite of your choices to put up for a vote.  Cheers to The Anders for opting for this subject and all of his thoughtful commentary (indeed everyone who has time to comment is appreciated), to Lorenzo for championing this type of poll and to everyone who participated and made it so very hard for me to make decisions.  Deep breath, then I’m on to creating the next poll for you. 

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Glad that you enjoyed it Nickie. It definitely impressed me on first hearing and then seeing the video, which was well filmed. I had come across it as an autoplay song from Amazon after listening to a Tin Hat. Amazon's algorithm for song selections is really good, and there is a degrees of separation link with Tin Hat in that violinist Carla Kihlstedt played on Wu Fei's first album.

Also appreciate your comments on my other suggestion along with comments from the Anders and Suitkees. I wish I had time to write more but have been swamped with work. I need to consider my votes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2021 at 07:52
Thank you Nickie for the vote and the nice words Smile

Continueing through the list:

Raff (continued)
Nuova Compagnia di Canto Popolare. I really enjoy the music here, especially with its melodic patterns. Some of the vocal performances are perhaps a bit too over-the-top for my taste, but on the other hand I like the almost punky energy they add to it.

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The Danish String Quartet: I am familiar with the Sønderho music tradition (from the isle of Fanø) - which actually goes way back, so the original piece could not be more traditional. But of course the string quartet add their own touch to it (the staccato playing is more classical than folk). I used to play violin (classical), and I flirted a bit with folk music at times. It's a completely different playing technique, and not one that is easy to handle when you are taught classical violin. I really enjoyed their take on this piece.

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Mircea Banicius song has a 70's folk rock sound, but there is also a synthesizer (?) in the right channel. There's a pleasantly relaxed and slightly melancholic atmosphere. I imagine the lyrics have some weight, so I would like to read a translation. Strunga - Phoenix begins with a low-pitched flute which later comes back towards the end. Then the song begins with electric guitar strumming. The melody is in the Phrygian mode in the verse - which is one I don't hear so often, so kudos to that. There is a fascinating, somewhat mystic mood to the music here, a bit like a calm before the storm. I like this a lot, and I am pretty sure I would have voted for it, had it been your nomination. Nicu Alifantis - Trecea un om has a slightly Latin American feel to it (the acoustic guitar playing as well as the chords). Once again the feel is a bit ominous. It's another very interesting song that I like a lot, and I think it would have been a contender too.

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Wu Fei & Abigail Washburn - "The Roving Cowboy / Avarguli": begins with a harp-like string instrument (a guzheng if I am not mistaken). It's fascinating to see how she is bending the notes. Very poetic. Then enters an English language singing voice. The actual song is mostly in a British/American tradition, but the combination works well. Very beautiful song.

I believe I reached through everything at this point, but let me add this plea: A lot of music has been posted, and while I really enjoy most of it, it takes a lot of time to get through all of it. So once again: please don't overdo it. 3-4 songs is fine, but with 8-10 pieces of music from one participant, it becomes too much. I would like some more time to get to know the music better, and it is almost impossible with this amount, especially considering that there is one half a month for each poll.

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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Glad that you enjoyed it Nickie. It definitely impressed me on first hearing and then seeing the video, which was well filmed. I had come across it as an autoplay song from Amazon after listening to a Tin Hat. Amazon's algorithm for song selections is really good, and there is a degrees of separation link with Tin Hat in that violinist Carla Kihlstedt played on Wu Fei's first album.

Also appreciate your comments on my other suggestion along with comments from the Anders and Suitkees. I wish I had time to write more but have been swamped with work. I need to consider my votes.

Thank you for the additional information, George. I've actually added this recording to my list of artists to check into further, you might have made a sale for them.  

And thank you for the playlist!



Edited by Snicolette - March 30 2021 at 08:35
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2021 at 10:15
I know I've been away from these polls for far too long, but this particular edition was truly outstanding. As I just wrote in the general poll thread, I will be hard put to choose only three songs. Thanks to everyone for the great selections, and for having turned me on to some fantastic music!
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Yep, to many great music in this playlist to be able to decently make a choice... However, I did. I proceeded by pairing some tracks and then flip a coin:

1. A pair with a more experimental tinge: Fovea Hex and Solarference. Although You Were There might be more minimalist than experimental, I also like its overall sound. My vote goes to Solarference however: despite (or, thanks to...?) its experimentation they create a very captivating song.

2. The melancholic singer/songwriters: Fotheringay and Nicu Alifantis. This is really a toss-up: two great voices and wonderful songs. The coin flips towards Alifantis: completely unknown to me and I very much like his Branduardi side of bringing his song...

3. Modern takes on tradition: Väsen and the last minute entry Wu Fei & Abigail Washburn: The latter gives an interesting encounter between American folk/country and Chinese traditional music. Very powerful, but in the end the Väsen chips it away; the composition sounds a bit more modern to me and the playing is really impressive.

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Lots of really nice tunes..hard to choose.....
1. Fotheringay-Banks of the Nile......big Denny fan so this is a must  for me...one of my favorites from her
2.Mark Fry- The Witch.....another one I know and own...eerie and 'dreamy'
3.Vasen- IPA-Gubben....great happy foot tapping ale music at the pub..?

also liked Fovea Hex , Solarference ,and Obscura Orbis....

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My votes:

Tunng - Woodcat
Väsen - IPA-gubben
Mark Fry - The Witch

There were many others in contention
I may comment on my votes later if I can.
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Thank you very much to everyone who voted for Väsen so far Smile

I just finished going through the nominations for a second time, but I am not yet ready to vote. It's not going to be easy, it's a very strong edition. Well done to everyone.

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So much good stuff... no idea what to do...
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I know I've been away from these polls for far too long, but this particular edition was truly outstanding. As I just wrote in the general poll thread, I will be hard put to choose only three songs. Thanks to everyone for the great selections, and for having turned me on to some fantastic music!


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:


So much good stuff... no idea what to do...


Me too.



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MY MINI-REVIEWS


1) Woodcat is a folk melodic song, Nick Drake style, really nice and well done. Intimate song. I like it

2) You were there is a song that combines strings with electronic sounds creating a (Irish?) very evocative, mysterious new age atmosphere. Beautiful female voice. It could be used for active meditation. I really like this one too.

3) Estreliña Do Luceiro: another female voice and an evocative pastoral atmosphere, melodically very good, in Italy we would say Renaissance atmosphere thanks to the phrases of the flute. Simple song, which has its beauty in the melody of the flute.

4) IPA-Gubben: I've already talked about it separately. Strong contender to the podium

5) Nicu Alifantis also creates a good evocative atmosphere. The melody has a very good typical instrumental folk progression. The only flaw is the production: the voice is too prominent.

6) Banks of the Nile is a long song by the wonderful Sandy Denny, possibly the best voice in British folk. Slow song that progresses gradually. I love Sandy's voice, so I always find it difficult not to reward her, but this time the competition is fierce and the song itself, while good, doesn't excite me.

7) Solarfarence - Cold Blows the Wind: this, if I have done the math correctly, is the fourth song with a female voice in the British / Irish style, but here we are at the essential: voice, guitar, keyboard background. Compared to the other songs there is a more rhythmic phrasing on the guitar and the vocal interweaving between the male singer and the female singer, whose soprano voice is truly remarkable. Another song that I really like.

8) Vasmalom - Hejtok Lányok  And here comes the fifth folk song with a female performer (Scandinavian song?). This song is much more traditional, folkloric, than the others, if we want more genuine. The instrumental part is interesting. Very beautiful too!




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^ Vasmalom - Hejtok Lányok is Hungarian.
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Some excellent selections here and also the additional tracks that were posted and it was hard to choose, but I finally got it down to these 3:

1. Tunng - Woodcat
2. Stormy Six - Il Barbiere
3. Wu Fei & Abigail Washburn - The Roving Cowboy

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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

MY MINI-REVIEWS


1) Woodcat is a folk melodic song, Nick Drake style, really nice and well done. Intimate song. I like it

2) You were there is a song that combines strings with electronic sounds creating a (Irish?) very evocative, mysterious new age atmosphere. Beautiful female voice. It could be used for active meditation. I really like this one too.

3) Estreliña Do Luceiro: another female voice and an evocative pastoral atmosphere, melodically very good, in Italy we would say Renaissance atmosphere thanks to the phrases of the flute. Simple song, which has its beauty in the melody of the flute.

4) IPA-Gubben: I've already talked about it separately. Strong contender to the podium

5) Nicu Alifantis also creates a good evocative atmosphere. The melody has a very good typical instrumental folk progression. The only flaw is the production: the voice is too prominent.

6) Banks of the Nile is a long song by the wonderful Sandy Denny, possibly the best voice in British folk. Slow song that progresses gradually. I love Sandy's voice, so I always find it difficult not to reward her, but this time the competition is fierce and the song itself, while good, doesn't excite me.

7) Solarfarence - Cold Blows the Wind: this, if I have done the math correctly, is the fourth song with a female voice in the British / Irish style, but here we are at the essential: voice, guitar, keyboard background. Compared to the other songs there is a more rhythmic phrasing on the guitar and the vocal interweaving between the male singer and the female singer, whose soprano voice is truly remarkable. Another song that I really like.

8) Vasmalom - Hejtok Lányok  And here comes the fifth folk song with a female performer (Scandinavian song?). This song is much more traditional, folkloric, than the others, if we want more genuine. The instrumental part is interesting. Very beautiful too!


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OK, after yet another listen this morning, I am ready to cast my vote. As we only have three votes, I have three winners and three runners-up - though the vast majority of the songs chosen for this poll were extremely to my taste. Here are my picks:

1) Fovea Hex - Huge thanks to Mike the Cat for turning me on to this great band. I have bookmarked their Bandcamp page, and have been listening to some of their work. The combination of vocals - beautiful yet somehow understated - and electronic-driven atmospherics is gorgeously haunting.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this edition of the Interactive poll. The music was simply incredible, and I have discovered a lot of great stuff that I can't wait to explore further.

2) Stormy Six - Being able to understand the lyrics was a plus for my personal appreciation of this song, a stunning synthesis of folk and avant-garde with a uniquely Italian flavour. I can see the comparisons with Gentle Giant, though I'd say this is even better. The song is sharply critical of the military draft, which in Italy was abolished in 2005, but was something to be confronted by young men of my generation and older.

3) Tunng - I know some members of this band are involved in Admirals Hard (one of my selections), but had never heard any of their work. Beautiful melody and haunting singing with some hard-to-pinpoint extra spice. Have they ever been submitted for addition to our database?

The runners-up:

- Abigail Washburn/Wu Fei: the ultimate East-meets-West collaboration. Minimalism is beautiful, especially when such gorgeous voices and stunning instrumental skills are involved.

- Espers: a band (sadly disbanded) I was already familiar with. Lovely version of a haunting traditional folk song.

- Milladoiro: another lovely female voice and delicate yet memorable melody. The musicality of the Galician language (a minority European language closely related to Portuguese) is an added bonus.


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Thank you, Raff!  Glad you enjoyed Milladoiro and appreciated the quiet beauty of it.  We both feel the same about Fovea Hex....they are probably getting more than a few listens on their bandcamp page, I've been doing that with them, as well.  Also, nice to get more info on the Stormy Six entry.
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