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Early British Prog vs American. Discuss. |
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Psychedelic Paul 
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*A* selection of classic American prog albums from the Prog Line channel.
  1976: ALBATROSS - Albatross (Symphonic Prog • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaBZNBUOPdk 1980: ALSHIA - Alshia (Progressive Rock • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrioMKTbdng 1980: ANOTHER WORLD PRODUCTION - The End of the Age (Progressive Rock • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cctfgc3VJE 1985: ARIEL - Perspectives (Jazz-Rock • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPb6SYUIFJg 1981: ASHBY-OSTERMANN ALLIANCE - Ashby-Ostermann Alliance (Jazz-Rock • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK_QJ2zxXg 1981: ASTRE - Foresight (Symphonic Prog • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhp506ca84A 1984: AUDIO VISION - Images (Eclectic Prog • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsdL4qmxoHo 1982: AURORA BOREALIS - Aurora Borealis with Mitch Dematoff (Jazz-Rock • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIcxoPjEqhQ 1976: AUSTIN ROBERTS & ADVENT - Eight Days (A Personal Journey) (Progressive Rock • United States) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ-GO9VcYms |
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Crane
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Posted: March 25 2021 at 06:43 |
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I brought this up in a proto-prog thread. Sounds like prog to me: https://youtu.be/lscRNsyEzs4
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“Art is the recognition of the universal presence of God.” —Ernest Hello
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nick_h_nz
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I mentioned In C already (and my love for last year’s interpretation of it from David Harrow), but I thought I’d mention Annette Peacock, too. I came to her via Mick Ronson’s solo album, “Slaughter...” where he covered the title track of “I’m the One”, and his cover of “Love Me Tender” is definitely more a cover of Peacock’s version of the song from that same album, than Presley’s. Mick then went on to play on the next Peacock album. (And, of course, fellow Bowie musician, Mike Garson played on “I’m the One”.) It was Bowie who brought me to Peacock; and to VU, Reed and Cale. It was Bowie who brought me to Van der Graff Generator. It was Bowie who brought me to Eno; and to King Crimson. He was my lead into a lot of prog, I guess.... |
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Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:01 |
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Paul, please do not clutter up this excellent thread with a whole bunch of lists with youtube lists that have bugger all to do with the ongoing discussion. Thank You.
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Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:02 |
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You could take the problem in reverse.  Post whatever thread iabout the XYZ band in the non-prog music discussion and 90% of the prog or not debate could disappear... and the 10% bitching left would be about why you didn't post it in the prog topics  |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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I'm listening to A Rainbow in Curved Air right now with a good cigar and cup of coffee with a shot of Sambuca. Pure Bliss. Cuing up In C next.
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Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:15 |
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Lol, I might try that sometime!
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:19 |
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In that case, I won't bother listing American Prog Line albums beginning with the letter "B"
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There was definitely US prog before Kansas(first album 74)or Happy the Man(first released album in 77). There was Polyphony who had an ELP sounding album in 1971 called "without introduction." There were others also.
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No one has said there wasn’t US prog before Kansas! 😄 I sincerely doubt there is a single person on this forum who believes US prog began with Kansas.... |
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See the third and fifth posts in this thread.
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I'm the fifth one and I'm referring to that time period having more proggy prog not the start point, I also refer to RTF, WR, Miles Davis, BS&T before that. For the third one thats psycho paul so you're just lucky he didn't call Kansas neo.
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I have, and neither says there wasn’t US prog before Kansas..... 🙄 |
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To me fusion and jazz rock isn't necessarily the same as prog. I suppose it depends on where you want to draw the line though. Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - March 25 2021 at 14:59 |
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No, it's only Kansas' post-1970's albums that are neo-prog in my warped psycho mind.
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I think the problem with a lot of this bickering about Kansas is that you’re apparently looking for European-style prog in the US. If you won’t designate as prog anything except European-style prog, then you’re definitely not going to find anything before European prog bands broke out.
I’ve been attempting an alternative thesis where progressive rock took a different approach in the US, coming from a 20th cen. classical / avant garde perspective, rather than a neo-romantic, neo-classical perspective. I think it’s entirely plausible to do this, using Zappa and Beefheart as a starting point and working out from there.
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Not a chronological starting point, obviously, but a conceptual starting point. Zappa particularly is, I think, almost inarguably American prog.
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You're lucky I don't flood your inbox with neo prog.
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