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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2158 |
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So now, 40 years later we return to the 80's to try and find the prog we cannot find today and couldn't find back then? doesn't make much sense to me, but interesting thread nonetheless...
Many of the bands mentioned, are already listed at PA.
Cm'on, who is the caretaker of this forum, move it to the Prog Related Forum or something lesser, please. Edited by earlyprog - March 14 2021 at 15:17 |
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Crane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 08 2011 Location: Rhode Island Status: Offline Points: 411 |
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earlyprog, if you read the OP you’ll see that I’m coveting something very specific in this thread. It’s sort of veered off into discussion of sophisti-pop in general. But the intention was to solicit prog recommendations.
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Slick, produced, strongly melodic pop music, with 1) odd time signatures, 2) advanced harmonic movements, 3) long-form compositions inspired by classical music, and/or 4) strong development of themes rather than simple repetition.
Not necessarily from the 1980’s, but “80’s” conveys the heavy use of digital synthesiser and programmed sequences that I’d personally like to hear.
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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This definitely belongs here. The original topic of conversation is prog. Rather than suggesting it be moved, it would make more sense to ask for it to be brought back on topic - which is prog bands that have the sophisti-pop vibe. There are such bands in PA, and not in the prog-related section, but generally in Crossover. Edited by nick_h_nz - March 14 2021 at 15:50 |
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you're right, maybe ask Keishiro for help.
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The band "of Montreal" is one of those sophisti-pop bands I think should be in the Archives.
Squeeze's album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti" is their most progressive and they are also an overlooked sophisti-pop style band. 10cc is here in the Archives and so is Mercury Rev, and I would consider them both sophisti-pop
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This was lost almost immediately after I posted it. I know you checked out, and enjoyed The Opium Cartel. Did you give Laughing Stock a listen? No worries if you did, and it didn’t do it for you. I know they don’t quite fit the bill. 😄 |
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Crane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 08 2011 Location: Rhode Island Status: Offline Points: 411 |
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It’s sitting in my queue as we speak. I’ve been discovering so much new music lately it’s kind of overwhelming! I will definitely get around to it. Right after IQ’s ‘Frequency’....
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Crane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 08 2011 Location: Rhode Island Status: Offline Points: 411 |
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nick, following up...
Laughing Stock’s ‘The Island’ wasn’t as interesting to me, sorry to say. The most interesting tracks were those which jammed different genres together, e.g. “That Face.” But Laughing Stock indulged too much in the tendency to extend tracks unnecessarily, without compensatory musical development or introduction of material. Most distracting were the lyrics, which were (I think) self-consciously silly. Vis a vis this thread, on the whole I didn’t hear as much of an 80’s influence on this album. I’ll give it another listen, as these are obviously fine musicians who crafted a technically accomplished album with plenty of advanced ideas.
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Progmind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 29 2010 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3458 |
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Crane, if you like Baroque pop + sophisti i recommend you The Divine Comedy, really a great band with many orchestral arregements.
Another great album, the debut of the band Doves - "Lost Souls" brilliant!!
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Haven't heard that one but their album "The Last Broadcast" has prog elements, even a bit of King Crimson's Moonchild.
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Another great album Chopper, my two favs by doves, but i prefer their debut, if you can check it out!
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I put it on my list. Thanks, Progmind.
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I can recommend Julee Cruise (especially her albums 'Floating into the Night' and 'The Voice of Love'), Melody's Echo Chamber (a project of Melody Prochet), Say Lou Lou, and Lykke Li. Also check out the 4AD label projects , in particular This Mortal Coil, and Cocteau Twins .
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I recently started going through the top 5000 albums on the rate your music site(the all time list) and writing down the ones that I have heard of or that I haven't heard of but look interesting to me(based on genre and description)and the Divine Comedy were one that popped up(I don't remember what number or which album(s) though). The Doves might have popped up too I'm not sure.
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hi AFlowerKingCrimson
I´m also a RYM user, as far for the divine Comedy, they have two excellent albums with very high scores "Fin De Siecle" and "Absent friends", i recommend both albums, pure baroque pop! |
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I'm not actually a rater on there but I do use the site a lot to check out ratings. I also use allmusic sometimes. I wonder how many younger music fans discovered close to the edge because of rym or prog in general. Anyway, I will keep those divine comedy albums in mind. Baroque pop seems like an interesting genre to me.
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I see that thread title and one album immediately jumps to mind...
The Nightfly
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My fav album by Donald Fagen!
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I'm loving the title track to the second Painted Word album "Universal" Seems their albums are rather hard to track down, with only scattered songs on YouTube.
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