I don't like Neo Prog, change my mind

essexboyinwales wrote: Blacksword wrote: richardh wrote: The latest Lifesigns album is a real 'goodie'.  Going back anyone mentioned Pallas - Dreams Of Men? That's a powerful recording from about 2005. Pendragon - Love Over Fear is probably the best Neo Prog release of last year. Frost* - never really think of them as neo prog band but certainly check out Falling Satellites. That's a very creative modern prog album that owes little to Genesis (although there is a sneaky reference to Duke on the track Fine Day For it) . Jem Godfrey is something of a genius in my eyes and the band also has John Mitchell on lead guitar , and talking of whom.. It Bites - The Tall Ships. Classic early 00's album , I have to listen to The Wind That Shakes The Barley at least once a week. That's them the rules  Oh yes! It Bites are a great band and probably the band I've seen the most times since the 80's. Seen them even more times than I've seen Rush. The Tall Ships may even be their best album. As much as think Frank Dunnery was one of the best rock guitarists of the 80's, I think John Mitchell made an excellent contribution to that band later on. The Tall Ships is probably their most prog album, although Once Around the World is probably my overall top IB album. Old man and the Angel and the title track were mind blowing live. They also always had the best live sound of any band I've ever seen. I saw them in London about 8 years ago, and the crowd were absolutely loving it. I think Mitchell was quite taken aback by the reaction. The Wind that Shakes the Barley was also glorious live. I remember on the show 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' they played a clip of It Bites once and Mark Lamar commented They were once described as Marillion with sex. A far more palatable concept, you'd agree than sex WITH Marillion' Another big fan of It Bites here.  Never seen them live, and pretty much given up all hope now, but their 5 albums are all gems in their own way.  The Tall Ships is magnificent

The first time I saw them was in a small club in Reading in 1987 ( I think) a schoolfriend persuaded me to go with him. I knew very little about them. He was a pop fan. I was a rock fan, and he promised me I wouldn't be disappointed. I wasn't and I made sure he listened to plenty of Rush and Genesis after that, so he understood who had influenced IB.

Cristi wrote: Psychedelic Paul wrote: ^ Cristi, you've probably noticed by now that only you call it "tormenting" and "trolling". I call it friendly banter.  This is hopeless. If you cannot respect my simple request, it only means you want to annoy and torment me, which to you it's just friendly banter. After all only I am hurting...

This is Cristi's MO. If you disagree with him he wants an explanation. When you explain, it's never enough, and he will antagonize you until you break and then he plays the victim. He has done this to me and several other members. His "trolling" on Paul, in the past, were hateful. I don't see any hate in Paul's posts.

Edited by Grumpyprogfan - February 26 2021 at 06:07

Cristi wrote: I've asked you a little while ago how have I upset you. I do not know, you never answered that post. I also apologized for having upset you (still don't know what I did, bit I still apologized). You have not said anything about that either.

Revisit your "1995 was a good year poll." I told you exactly how you upset me. After I did this, you kept arguing like I was the one to blame. Your cut and paste apology, was posted before I explained what you did.

richardh wrote: The latest Lifesigns album is a real 'goodie'.  Going back anyone mentioned Pallas - Dreams Of Men? That's a powerful recording from about 2005. Pendragon - Love Over Fear is probably the best Neo Prog release of last year. Frost* - never really think of them as neo prog band but certainly check out Falling Satellites. That's a very creative modern prog album that owes little to Genesis (although there is a sneaky reference to Duke on the track Fine Day For it) . Jem Godfrey is something of a genius in my eyes and the band also has John Mitchell on lead guitar , and talking of whom.. It Bites - The Tall Ships. Classic early 00's album , I have to listen to The Wind That Shakes The Barley at least once a week. That's them the rules

I’m pretty sure everyone who has read what I’ve written in the past, about Psychedelic Paul’s Album reviews and compilations, not to mention just about anything he’s written about Prog music here on PA, knows that I like and support him. Yes, we are good friends. No, we are not the same person. Let’s dispel that myth. And because I’m not on PA as often as he is, and not immersed in the world of Prog music like he and so many others here are, I appreciate Prog music from afar, and come here to read and enjoy the heartfelt passion that PA members share together about the music. It’s easy to see that there is great appreciation for not only the music itself, but the band members, their history, which other groups they played in, new releases after long absences, the whole nine yards. And to hear each member’s take on why these bands are special to them or what aspect of the music appeals to them. It’s truly a joy to read. But, there’s something that amazes and frustrates me, though it doesn’t surprise me, because PA is a forum to discuss opinions, and we all no what they say about opinions: everyone’s got one. Lol And some on here, or maybe one in particular, who shall remain anonymous, tends to put more weight on his opinion than perhaps there needs to be. I’m not referring to his opinion on Prog music, but his opinion on why another member of this Forum, who is just as passionate as he is about this music, and perhaps just as knowledgeable, continues to torment him. If tormenting is really his ultimate objective. I’m not savvy about how to put quotes in this like others on this site, but I’d like to give credit to a couple of people who went to bat for Psychedelic Paul, in these matters, and I’m sure I’m leaving others out that have before: GrumpyProgFan and Suitkees, thank you. You made a good point. It just seems to me, a virtual outsider, that this anonymous member reads too much into what others say, taking it too personally, as if a difference of opinion about Prog music or even someone agreeing with him about it, were someone going out of their way to make his existence unbearable. Let it go!! It’s not all about you! One can’t prohibit another member from sharing regardless of when he chooses to share, or why have a Prog Music Forum at all? One man’s friendly banter is another man’s Trolling. Even that is an opinion. A comment was made, that talked of being the only one who is being hurt. What about the feelings of the one sharing his one true passion in a venue designed to share with others who share his passion? If someone seeks to be left alone, a Forum probably isn’t the best place for him. Where there are bound to be differing opinions and emphasis on individual tastes and preferences. I know it’s a cliche, but: why can’t we all just get along? (And enjoy the Prog!!). Thanks for your time. FloydianPinkRose

You are more than welcome, Grumpy! (Personally, I don’t find you grumpy at all!)

Edited by suitkees - February 27 2021 at 11:47

I’m not going to, I agree. Marillion has a few decent albums but beside that I find Neo Prog exceedingly bland.

Snareman wrote: I’m not going to, I agree. Marillion has a few decent albums but beside that I find Neo Prog exceedingly bland.

I don't even think Neo Prog was particularly 'bland' back in the day.  Fugazi broke the mould while The Wake was as raw as any punk rock music. The bands may have been a tad limited as far as 'chops' but as far as bland goes then nope.