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The Dark Elf
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Joined: February 01 2011
Location: Michigan
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Points: 13065
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Posted: February 11 2021 at 11:22 |
BaldJean wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
At least Trump's lawyer team is consistent. And remember, all of them are working pro bono, although they don't know that yet.
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"pro malo" is the more appropriate term here
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More like "stercore pro cerebro".
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lazland
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 28 2008
Location: Wales
Status: Online
Points: 13634
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Posted: February 11 2021 at 12:04 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
At least Trump's lawyer team is consistent. And remember, all of them are working pro bono, although they don't know that yet.
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"pro malo" is the more appropriate term here
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More like "stercore pro cerebro". |
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progaardvark
Collaborator
Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams
Joined: June 14 2007
Location: Sea of Peas
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Points: 51071
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Posted: February 11 2021 at 15:01 |
Interesting story about a possible new center-right party fracturing off the trump party. Sounds like if they don't convict trump, they may break off. Time will tell...
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Easy Money
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: August 11 2007
Location: Memphis
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Points: 10618
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Posted: February 11 2021 at 16:54 |
progaardvark wrote:
Interesting story about a possible new center-right party fracturing off the trump party. Sounds like if they don't convict trump, they may break off. Time will tell...
| I don't know if that will amount to much right away, we will see. I'm sure those people are aware of the fact that trump attracted a certain bunch to the repub party that were not repubs before. I have been reading the short little bios that have accompanied the arrests of the capital protest people and over and over again you hear stuff such as; this person was not that interested in politics until trump came along, or this person was a disgruntled democrat until trump came along etc. The repub party had been shifting from its traditional chamber of commerce/hawkish on Russia base towards angry rednecks and anti new world order anti-vaxxers for a while. Bill Clinton scored points with the chamber of commerce crowd while George Bush Sr angered the new world order people. George Jr's rhetoric appealed to the rednecks while Obama's nomination chased the rest off. The stage was set for trump and his transformation of the repub party from chamber of commerce/hawkish on Russia to the current angry rednecks and anti new world order conspiracy people. Trump has successfully dragged the repubs down a rabbit hole that made the party lose all three branches of government. Guys like Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham know that, but they are scared if they anger the trumpateers they will be left with nothing. There are a couple repubs, such as Ben Sasse and Mitt Romney who are trying to redirect the party, we'll see what happens, but in the meantime, trump's destruction of the party is just as Graham predicted five years ago.
Edited by Easy Money - February 11 2021 at 17:21
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Joined: October 02 2016
Location: Philly burbs
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Points: 18301
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Posted: February 11 2021 at 18:42 |
Well, if what ends up happening what I think is going to happen then they may as well just get rid of the whole impeachment thing. It should no longer be an option. What good is it if something like this is not an impeachable offense to the Senate.
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 05 2007
Location: Germany
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Points: 2720
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 01:56 |
You know how it is when you watch a discussion hoping for an exchange of viewpoints but only one side is prepared to to do that while the other is only interested in pushing its agenda regardless of what is said? It's hopeless.
The Trump impeachment trials are like that. Disrespectful, uncivilized, and primitive. A prime example of how not to conduct a process.
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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Germany
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Points: 10261
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 03:45 |
Is it really a process? A process implies change, but this can not be observed here. We are at a political temperature of zero Kelvin, the temperature at which no movement at all happens.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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JD
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 07 2009
Location: Canada
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Points: 18446
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 05:11 |
Simply put, can the republicans even come close to being objective rather than subjective.
I think not.
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rushfan4
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 07:00 |
Trial by juries are only effective when the juries are unbiased. The jury in the impeachment hearing is about as biased as biased gets.
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dr wu23
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
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Points: 20624
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 09:17 |
SteveG wrote:
JD wrote:
True governing for the minorities. Too bad the R's couldn't apply that same philosophy to the true minorities in the country.
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The breakdown of American voters is supposed to be (roughly) 35% Republican, 38% Democrat, 15% Independent, undecided or some form of Libertarian, with the remaining 13% lost to the ether. |
Roughly that adds up to 101%..... 13% lost to 'the ether'.......the new party ...Etherians.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Germany
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Points: 10261
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 09:40 |
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
JD wrote:
True governing for the minorities. Too bad the R's couldn't apply that same philosophy to the true minorities in the country.
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The breakdown of American voters is supposed to be (roughly) 35% Republican, 38% Democrat, 15% Independent, undecided or some form of Libertarian, with the remaining 13% lost to the ether. |
Roughly that adds up to 101%..... 13% lost to 'the ether'.......the new party ...Etherians. | The Michelson-Morley experiment proved the ether does not exist, so they are lost in Nirvana.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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rushfan4
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 09:43 |
That smells like teen spirit to me. (I'd of made reference to the prog Nirvana, but I don't know them).
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SteveG
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Joined: April 11 2014
Location: Kyiv In Spirit
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Points: 20609
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Posted: February 12 2021 at 11:47 |
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
JD wrote:
True governing for the minorities. Too bad the R's couldn't apply that same philosophy to the true minorities in the country.
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The breakdown of American voters is supposed to be (roughly) 35% Republican, 38% Democrat, 15% Independent, undecided or some form of Libertarian, with the remaining 13% lost to the ether. |
Roughly that adds up to 101%..... 13% lost to 'the ether'.......the new party ...Etherians. |
Yes, the key word was roughly. Pardon my faux pas. The percentages are actually 34, 38, 15 and 13.
Edited by SteveG - February 12 2021 at 11:57
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SteveG
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Joined: April 11 2014
Location: Kyiv In Spirit
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Posted: February 13 2021 at 10:40 |
The Senate voted 55 to 45 to allow witnesses to testify in the impeachment trial today. But I'm afraid it's just a show by Republicans to make themselves look serious when voting to not convict thier hero.
Edited by SteveG - February 13 2021 at 10:41
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SteveG
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Posted: February 13 2021 at 15:51 |
Trump is found not guilty of inciting the insurrection at the Capitol, by the US Senate. What a surprise.
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rushfan4
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Posted: February 13 2021 at 15:53 |
I have absolutely no respect at all for the 43 Republicans that voted to acquit him. Sadly, I have no ability to vote them out of office, so I am stuck with them.
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SteveG
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Joined: April 11 2014
Location: Kyiv In Spirit
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Posted: February 13 2021 at 15:56 |
rushfan4 wrote:
I have absolutely no respect at all for the 43 Republicans that voted to acquit him. Sadly, I have no ability to vote them out of office, so I am stuck with them. |
Same here. It now appears that Trumpism is here to stay.
Edited by SteveG - February 13 2021 at 15:56
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BaldJean
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Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
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Points: 10387
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Posted: February 13 2021 at 15:59 |
I did not expect any other result. hopefully they will pay dearly for this in the next elections
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Man With Hat
Collaborator
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
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Points: 166178
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Posted: February 13 2021 at 16:00 |
Yep. Just give trump the nomination in 2024. Guess I should get the ulcer medication on stand by again.
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SteveG
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 11 2014
Location: Kyiv In Spirit
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Points: 20609
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Posted: February 13 2021 at 16:05 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Yep. Just give trump the nomination in 2024. Guess I should get the ulcer medication on stand by again. |
Don't dispair. A lot could happen before then like Trump going to prison with no Republican President to pardon him. Now, doesn't that delight your imagination?
Edited by SteveG - February 13 2021 at 16:07
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