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mellotronwave
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Posted: February 15 2022 at 09:59 |
Just finished it , interesting
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Hi, And guess what my collection of music started on? Yep ... you got it! Probably the most "complete" Harvest of anyone you know ... that sadly no one will talk about and in the end, many of these people and their music is long gone and buried. Vertigo is specially important for all of us, and it started in the late 60's and was done mostly by the FATHER OF PROGRESSIVE music ... and he deserves more stuff on him than a lot of folks better known. Met him in 1999 in SF at Gilly's birthday party ... an awesome moment. Picture of George on my webpages ... from that day on the Photography section. |
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Cosmiclawnmower
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The book 'The Famous Charisma Discography- a 40th anniversary celebration' by Mark Jones, first published in 2010 is a great overview of TSS and Charisma as well as a complete geek fest for collectors of the label. It has introductions by Chris Adams and Michael Palin and really shows what Charisma was about- a blueprint for all the independant labels that came later in the 70's. TSS was that oddly british mix of sentimentality, romantiscism and intuition mixed with hard headed business acumen and a nose for a winner. I dont think there is much chance of a book about 'fame and fortune' here.. it was always pretty shoestring stuff and even if a few of those artists became 'famous' in later years they still talk about Charisma and TSS in the same manner as every other artist on the labels roster and over the years ive read and heard testements from most! I hope this book does him justice and i'm happy to give it a punt and find out.
Ive wanted to do a 'Charisma' label thread for a long time- as a label it was so much more forward thinking, mostly due to TSS and its independance. Vertigo, Harvest, Neon etc they were all part of corporates and just on the look out for what 'Progressive' bands they could get on their rosters.. TSS signed up acts and artists that 'moved' him and was prepared to invest and develop acts often out of his own pocket.. there are lots of more obscure early Charisma releases which, although not 'Progressive rock' were certainly progressive for the times.. |
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moshkito
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I don't know ... this would be interesting, but then only to find that ... we got tired of AP's excursions with the acoustic guitar and not concentrating on the songs kind of thing, and then learning how PG's voice was made to "fit" the songs, with some acting, rather than singing. Of bigger and better interest, TO ME, would be the number of side bands that they introduced that will be ignored ... and maybe only a paragraph said ... when PG gets 747 paragraphs ... not interested in that at all ... and PG, as much as I enjoyed a lot of his music and the show I saw was excellent ... in the end, is not at all as memorable and enjoyable as other things out there, including GENESIS. I am not a great fan of books that go about ... the fame ... and the fortune ... and if you want a great example of an "anti-book", go read Anita Pallenburg's book, and it demystifies a lot the crap that we believed in, but also shows another side of the whole thing ... not to mention the placement and the ability of well to do "royals" from various places getting around. I might look for a used copy for a couple of dollars ... I would like to review this, but seeing AUDIENCE, or any other band, only get 3 paragraphs ... is painful for me ... very painful ... there were a lot of musicians that helped make that label and work come together to be seen and shown ... and STILL ... I imagine that most of it will be buried and left behind!
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Yes, essential reading this one.
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Cosmiclawnmower
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Ive been wondering when a decent biography on TSS would happen; there's been so much written about him via Genesis, VDGG, Monty Python, Lindisfarne, Clifford T Ward etc over the year plus various books about Charisma as a label and other staff whom he developed, supported and sent out into the music world over the years but nothing comprehensively celebrating the man himself! Count me in! as a life-long collector of Charisma/ B&C records i am really looking forward to this one!
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Good pick, I'll definitely look into it. It's guys like this who gave us prog rock that was accessible and well-produced . |
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Agree, this will probably be a very interesting read for any prog/music and music history fan.
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This sounds very interesting. Nice to see a bio on the eccentric Charisma boss. Sign me up.
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Due in June, a biography on Tony Stratton Smith
(or Strat, as he was known) and his label, Charisma. Charisma, of course, was
home to VdGG/Hammill, Genesis/Gabriel, Lindisfarne, Monty Python, Hawkwind, Julian Lennon, and
several others. Foreward by Peter Gabriel From the press release: A quietly spoken, true English eccentric with
something of a rebellious streak, Tony Stratton Smith initially charmed and
blustered his way into the music business as a manager during the early 1960s
and a few years later, when the record labels stopped playing by what he
believed to be the rules, he simply went and formed his own —The Famous
Charisma Label — and set about spinning the record business on its head. An
independent label like no other, it is fair to say that without Strat’s total
belief and unwavering long-term support there would be no Genesis — Phil
Collins has said as much — and a long line of artists owe Tony a similar debt
of gratitude, from Monty Python to Malcolm McLaren, Lindisfarne to Sir John
Betjeman, Vivian Stanshall to Julian Lennon. A former sports journalist and close friend to
Jimmy Greaves and Sir Matt Busby (Strat narrowly missed a seat in the Munich
Air crash) he later became a popular figure in the horse racing world. But
making money was never very high on Tony’s agenda, simply a means to an end
that enabled him to fund the music and mayhem that brought him so much
enjoyment. Strat was never happier than when the artists that he had so
carefully nurtured were fulfilling their creative potential, delighting in
working with the talents of Peter Gabriel, Alan Hull, Clifford T. Ward, Howard
Werth and Peter Hammill. Ultimately, what he really cared about were the
people, the creativity, about imagination, inspiration and risk, and the sheer
joy to be had in bringing all those elements together, lighting the
Charisma-pink touch paper and standing back, glass in hand, to watch what might
happen when the sparks began to fly. |
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