Marillion's Brave: A Classic or Overblown Mess?

There's many pro and con opinions. Please state yours and why.

Edited by SteveG - January 27 2021 at 13:23

It goes on a bit without any memorable bits. Mind you I haven't heard it an age though. I saw the very first gig of the accompanying tour back in the 90's and it just left me wondering 'why?'. Give me Seasons End any day. Will be interesting to find out why people rate it so much. 

Easily a Classic, not sure why anyone would regard it an Overblown Mess. DT's The Astonishing is a massive Overblown Mess .

Make that 1998. Just 4 years after the original release. 24 bit remastered at Abbey Road. Time for an upgrade.

Edited by SteveG - January 26 2021 at 16:41

Prog-jester wrote: both could've been decent 40-45 mins long LPs

yeah, I know, concepts and all, but look:

"Living with the Big Lie" – 6:46
"Runaway" - 4:40
"Goodbye to All That" – 12:26
"Alone Again in the Lap of Luxury" – 8:13
"Brave" – 7:54
"The Great Escape" – 6:29

&

"The Invisible Man" – 13:37
"Fantastic Place" – 6:12
"The Damage" – 4:35
"Angelina" – 7:42
"Drilling Holes" – 5:11
"Neverland" – 12:10
bonus: "Ocean Cloud" – 17:58

Cristi wrote: Prog-jester wrote: I don't get why both Brave and Marbles are so universally loved, both very dull and boring to me, both could've been decent 40-45 mins long LPs. But what do I know, I love Somewhere Else and Anoraknophobia they are not universally loved, here on PA Marillion's Hogarth era is rather unpopular, so I don't know where you got this idea from.  Dull and boring? That's your opinion, don't try to pass it as fact.  Brave around 40 minutes? So what songs do we take out?  Marbles 45 minutes? The epics make that time alone. Can we keep those? They're essential listening if you ask me.

     

Edited by SteveG - January 27 2021 at 13:15

Prog-jester wrote: Prog-jester wrote: both could've been decent 40-45 mins long LPs yeah, I know, concepts and all, but look: "Living with the Big Lie" – 6:46 "Runaway" - 4:40 "Goodbye to All That" – 12:26 "Alone Again in the Lap of Luxury" – 8:13 "Brave" – 7:54 "The Great Escape" – 6:29 & "The Invisible Man" – 13:37 "Fantastic Place" – 6:12 "The Damage" – 4:35 "Angelina" – 7:42 "Drilling Holes" – 5:11 "Neverland" – 12:10 bonus: "Ocean Cloud" – 17:58

Wtf? It's prog rock for Christ sake.

Edited by SteveG - January 27 2021 at 13:26

SteveG wrote: It's prog rock for Christ sake.

...so it MUST be dull and boring then?

or you never heard of albums like TAAB (one song, 40 mins)?

Prog-jester wrote: SteveG wrote: It's prog rock for Christ sake. ...so it MUST be dull and boring then? or you never heard of albums like TAAB (one song, 40 mins)?

look, you would think a song on Brave was dull and boring if it was 20 seconds long. What's length got to do with it?

Edited by SteveG - January 27 2021 at 13:56

Prog-jester wrote: SteveG wrote: look, you would think a song on Brave was dull and boring if it was 20 seconds long not true, my friend The shorter variant I posted is pretty much perfect to me, 9/10 I'd say?.. The real actual album as it is - probably 5/10, too slow, too uneven, too many filler tracks

we get it. You don't like Brave. The gods have spoken.