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Posted: October 17 2020 at 11:22

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Posted: October 17 2020 at 21:18

I wonder if Alex and Geddy will try to find a new drummer to play with. No, I'm not suggesting they would ever call themselves Rush again but I get the feeling they might want to play in a band together again at some point. If they do I wonder if they would consider Mike Portnoy. I think he would be the most logical choice. Is there someone else who would be just as appropriate? Maybe Dave Grohl. I can't really think of too many others though. Maybe Marco Minnemann or Gavin Harrison too but they're probably too busy. Mike is probably busy too but something tells me he would make room in his schedule. LOL

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Posted: October 17 2020 at 21:26

Danny Carey would be another good choice.

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Posted: October 18 2020 at 10:25

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I wonder if Alex and Geddy will try to find a new drummer to play with. No, I'm not suggesting they would ever call themselves Rush again but I get the feeling they might want to play in a band together again at some point. If they do I wonder if they would consider Mike Portnoy. I think he would be the most logical choice. Is there someone else who would be just as appropriate? Maybe Dave Grohl. I can't really think of too many others though. Maybe Marco Minnemann or Gavin Harrison too but they're probably too busy. Mike is probably busy too but something tells me he would make room in his schedule. LOL

Boy Portnoy has come up often, but I don't think out of the mouths of Alex or Geddy. I really do not see Portnoy doing anything with them together, possibly in solo projects. I also doubt they do anything that calls to be a Rush band ever again.

Its hard to read between the lines of what Geddy has said in interviews, but I don't hear huge passion yet. Alex has had interview since Neil's passing and I think its going to be awhile if at all if he does something, I would expect guest spots if anything as you can tell he is not in any musical mood since Neil's passing.

Covid has probably put them back 2-3 yrs from doing anything............At best I would expect a solo album or two.

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Posted: October 18 2020 at 11:24

Dirk and Lerxst playing with Mike or Marco would seem like an attempt to be nuRush.

I liked Matt Cameron drumming for Geddy on My Favorite Headache. Matt's a great drummer with a very different style and sound.

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Posted: October 18 2020 at 11:48

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Dirk and Lerxst playing with Mike or Marco would seem like an attempt to be nuRush.

I liked Matt Cameron drumming for Geddy on My Favorite Headache. Matt's a great drummer with a very different style and sound.

That's a good point........I highly doubt someone like Marco is on their radar and for those reasons I think they would use a drummer like Cameron who will give them a different feel.

Pretty much any drummer that has been suggested is going to want to play like Neil or feel they need to.

If they put out an album with Bubbles & The Sh*t Rockers........that would make Neil LMFAO from above!!

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Posted: October 18 2020 at 11:56

Deleted. Wrong thread.

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Posted: October 18 2020 at 12:27

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If they put out an album with Bubbles & The Sh*t Rockers........that would make Neil LMFAO from above!!

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Posted: January 01 2021 at 09:52

Had not seen this tribute before, just popped up on my YT feed....well done, not sure who this drummer is other than a general fan. I think he did a good job.

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Posted: January 01 2021 at 10:16

Well put together for sure.

Only issue I have is his complete lack of acknowledging Carl Palmer's influence as a drummer that opened the door for Neil to explore his eventual potfolio.

Including...fast rolls down a chain of tuned toms, drum solos constructed with true musical phrasing, rotating drum kit, electronic drums. Albeit, in his own style and fashion.

I'm sorry, I think Neil is in the top 3 rock drummers for innovation and performance, but to not understand or even include CP's contribution to this topic is, in my opinion, negligent or uninformed.

Still, a really nice video.

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Posted: January 01 2021 at 10:23

JD wrote:

Well put together for sure.

Only issue I have is his complete lack of acknowledging Carl Palmer's influence as a drummer that opened the door for Neil to explore his eventual potfolio.

Including...fast rolls down a chain of tuned toms, drum solos constructed with true musical phrasing, rotating drum kit, electronic drums. Albeit, in his own style and fashion.

I'm sorry, I think Neil is in the top 3 rock drummers for innovation and performance, but to not understand or even include CP's contribution to this topic is, in my opinion, negligent or uninformed.

Still, a really nice video.

Maybe I am missing something in your post, but this guy is paying tribute to Neil who seems to be a huge influence to him and his drumming. I am sure if Neil made a similar tribute it would include Bonham, Moon, Palmer, Buddy Rich, Gruber.

I've always liked Palmer's drumming even though I'm not a huge ELP fan.

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Posted: January 01 2021 at 10:59

You're not missing anything. I was just musing.

I guess when it comes to prog rock drummers (which I think we can agree Peart was one of) Palmer should be referenced. Likewise for keyboardists, Emerson's influence can't be ignored. That's all I was saying.

It's a perfectly nice tribute to a drummer he admires, I just think harking back to Krupa and Rich, and even mentioning Starr without including Palmer does a disservice to his contribution, that's all.

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Posted: January 01 2021 at 11:51

When it comes to Neil, Carl usually gets referenced. He deserves to be referenced a lot more than Moon, that's for certain.

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Posted: January 01 2021 at 20:25

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When it comes to Neil, Carl usually gets referenced. He deserves to be referenced a lot more than Moon, that's for certain.

Quite possibly, but for many Moon and Bonham are the reason the later drummers got behind a kit in the first place.

ELP was only 3-4yrs behind Rush's first release and by the time BSS comes out, seems like ELP was also waning. I think people forgot about Palmer until Asia in the early 80's.

Palmer should be mentioned more on this site.........

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Posted: January 02 2021 at 00:52

I've never read much about Neil being a massive Carl Palmer fan. Moreso than anyone else I've heard him mention really loving Keith Moon, and later on Buddy Rich. Now I can definitely hear things that Palmer did which Neil would go on to use, but as far as being a massive influence or inspiration to Neil as a drummer I don't think he held anyone in higher regard than Moon when he first started playing with Rush. I have a memory of him mentioning lifting a particular drum fill on the Hold Your Fire album from Phil Collins, and I seem to recall him being really interested in learning from Steward Copeland's approach when The Police first hit. He's also mentioned getting inspiration from joining drum circles on a bike ride through Africa. I guess my point is Neil took a lot of ideas from a lot of different drummers and used them to create and develop his own style. I don't think he owes Carl Palmer any more credit than Stewart Copeland.

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Posted: January 02 2021 at 02:02

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verslibre wrote:

When it comes to Neil, Carl usually gets referenced. He deserves to be referenced a lot more than Moon, that's for certain.

Quite possibly, but for many Moon and Bonham are the reason the later drummers got behind a kit in the first place.

ELP was only 3-4yrs behind Rush's first release and by the time BSS comes out, seems like ELP was also waning.

Sure, but I think Neil evolved more quickly and sooner than people care to admit. I'd add Ginger Baker, too.

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I think people forgot about Palmer until Asia in the early 80's.

ELP toured in the late '70s, too, first with and then without an orchestra. It's not easy to forget a drummer like Palmer.

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