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Poll Question: Pick Three
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
3 [7.69%]
1 [2.56%]
4 [10.26%]
2 [5.13%]
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Merry Christmas!

Start calling out your nominees.

Best wishes!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2020 at 18:50
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I didn't comment on this one, a bit hard to get into it, but I'm happy that you nominated it because it's clear that it deserves more listens. One of those that doesn't click the first time but the potential to click later is obvious.


Yeah, it's quite an experience - even within the context of post-1945 classical music...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2020 at 18:06
Bumping this up. I don't think I have everyone in here. Let me know who else needs to be added to the poll.
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Isaac Hayes' version of "Something" is something else. Quite a varied and eclectic ride that ends up as a wild psychedelic violin jam.

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1) Mermen - Burn. I like it very much. It sounds proggy. Industrial prog. Contender.

2) Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen - Je ne me tairai jamais, Jamais. This is cultured music. Dissonant. Avantguarde. Close to lyrical opera. Contender.


Edited by jamesbaldwin - December 29 2020 at 15:41
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Marius Popp - Inscriptie....Oh, well, this is another prog piece, free jazz... contender.

Quicksilver: well, I love them....


Ok, until now, with the firsts 4 songs, I got 4 contenders.....Geek


Meredith Monk? Very good, but, I PREFER ADRIAN MONK!!!!Wink



Edited by jamesbaldwin - December 29 2020 at 15:45
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Buffalo Springfield: good jam, very good but...


Ok, there were three songs I knew:
-Television
-Quicksilver
- Buffalo Springfield

Mike, damn it! you took away Marquee Moon from Television! You preferred Gomez! Ok, they churned out a great jam with abrasive electric guitars, really remarkable!

But I had decided to rate one of the three songs I already knew, and of the three my favorite was Marquee Moon! Now you've taken it off me, and so I think Quicksilver will take a place on the podium, which I like not so much but a little more than Buffalo Springfield ....

While the Gomez do not know if they can make it to the podium.

Kreng...Wrack: I didn't look who put this song on but it could have been Christian: instrumental, experimental, electronic, cacophonic ...






Edited by jamesbaldwin - December 30 2020 at 16:34
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@mathman0806

When do the votes start?
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These were all single suggestions, but not yet up on board (at least, at first look, I could be missing something):

Ronstein:  The Allman Brothers “Mountain Jam”  

tigerfeet:  Karl Seglem “Springar fra fjord”

Samuel:  Nice to see you back! Krystian Zimerman The Cleveland Orchestra  Pierre Boulez “Ravel: Piano Concerto in G Major, M. 83 - 2. Adagio assai”  

Hyrchu:  Also good to see you back!  PuD, Ailsean, Flik, C. Engstrom, Wild_Cat  “Excitebike etc. - Bike Kid: The Musical (Team 80s)”  
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Buffalo Springfield: good jam, very good but...


Ok, there were three songs I knew:
-Television
-Quicksilver
- Buffalo Springfield

Mike, damn it! you took away Marquee Moon from Television! You preferred Gomez! Ok, they churned out a great jam with abrasive electric guitars, really remarkable!

But I had decided to rate one of the three songs I already knew, and of the three my favorite was Marquee Moon! Now you've taken it off me, and so I think Quicksilver will take a place on the podium, which I like not so much but a little more than Buffalo Springfield ....

While the Gomez do not know if they can make it to the podium.

Kreng...Wrack: I didn't look who put this song on but it could have been Christian: instrumental, experimental, electronic, cacophonic ...





Lorenzo, I really love the Television track, but couldn't have posted one less known, since it had to exceed 8 minutes.   It seems that most people are familiar with Marquee Moon and that disqualifies it from a lot of their votes.  The next longest song they have is 7:40 called "Little Johnny Jewell" so it was below the 8 minute mark.  Sorry to take that one away, but it was only because it was too well known.  




Edited by TCat - December 30 2020 at 18:05

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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

These were all single suggestions, but not yet up on board (at least, at first look, I could be missing something):

Ronstein:  The Allman Brothers “Mountain Jam”  

tigerfeet:  Karl Seglem “Springar fra fjord”

Samuel:  Nice to see you back! Krystian Zimerman The Cleveland Orchestra  Pierre Boulez “Ravel: Piano Concerto in G Major, M. 83 - 2. Adagio assai”  

Hyrchu:  Also good to see you back!  PuD, Ailsean, Flik, C. Engstrom, Wild_Cat  “Excitebike etc. - Bike Kid: The Musical (Team 80s)”  

Thanks Nickie! I've put those in and we have 15 in the polls. So it's open and will run until whenever it runs outs. The fun is in the listening. 

Sorry for the delay. I've had some other things going on. 



Also, on the first page.



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I forgot to get back to you, thanks Nickie for bringing up my suggestion Thumbs Up

Happy new year everyone Party
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Happy New Year to all!  Thank you for the playlist, George!  Now to relistens and decisions.  Smile
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Happy new year from me as well - with this song (out of competition of course):

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The voting is always the hardest and saddest part for me (having to make the choice), oh and happy new year in advance (still have about 16 hours to go of this year where I live).

As for my votes. I discounted that that I knew well, and some I think would just take more spins to properly appreciate (I have listened at least twice to all properly).

In the end (and some others came close):

Kreng - Wrak
Dissòi Logòi -Amptruabat Redamptruabat
Karl Seglem - Springar fra fjord

Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen - Je me ne tairai jamais, Jamais is a most interesting one, and I feel bad for not voting for it. A decade ago such things were more in my wheelhouse, but my tastes have been getting more and more conservative over time (which often happens to people as they get older).

I do love the variety of music on these polls and the commentary is a pleasure to read.
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:


Lorenzo, I really love the Television track, but couldn't have posted one less known, since it had to exceed 8 minutes.   It seems that most people are familiar with Marquee Moon and that disqualifies it from a lot of their votes.  The next longest song they have is 7:40 called "Little Johnny Jewell" so it was below the 8 minute mark.  Sorry to take that one away, but it was only because it was too well known.  



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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Happy New Year to all!  Thank you for the playlist, George!  Now to relistens and decisions.  Smile


yeah, happy new year!

I am cooking the last dinner of the year!!!!


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I know, I know!  But one must be flexible....I absolutely cannot decide an order from 1-3 of my top 3, one of my "Hon Mentions," (the Ravel), is only because I can't honestly say I haven't heard it before (and that is always one of my criteria for what I consider a fair vote).  So here are my 3 favourites of the lot, in no particular order.  As always, opened my ears to new music, everyone's selections have merit.  

Mermen “Burn” Love the cover artwork, before even listening.  Begins with some clangy (but not loud) guitar sounds and percussion, gradually builds with some picking and keyboards.  Nice flourishes on guitar.  And here come the surf bits after about 3 minutes, echo-y guitar and continued washes of sound underneath.  Gets a bit spacier about halfway in, with guitar wingdings and coily, drainy sounds.  They are definitely getting lost in space about 8 minutes in.  Music seems to end, but there are blops yet to be heard, if you listen carefully.  Then another sound completely begins, with tambourine sounds, more wobbly guitars, perhaps this is where they find themselves once to trip out there has concluded, a pretty and light place, which fades slowly away.

Dissòi Logòi “Amptruabat Redamptruabat”  This begins with some high flute, solo, treated with mild echo. Joining in at about a minute, it’s underscored by sustained notes on a keyboard, or are they a vocal?  Hand drums and some bells join in with some quiet guitar and meltingly beautiful violin (or is it something like a mizmar?) in a Middle Eastern sort of style.  More flute or ocarina-type instrument, still accompanied by the guitar and some twangy strings as well.  Male vocal and some sustained (backwards?) guitar-type notes.  There are some zils (hand cymbals) way back in the mix. This is fantastic, gotta say.  Gorgeous gypsy-style guitar lead and then some double-picking, with flourishes.  The possibly backwards guitar or violin through effects re-emerges.  Did I say this was fantastic? The flute and guitar double on the same melody and the violin/mizmar thing comes back in an exotic, along with the flute/pipe fluttering about.  Yep, fantastic.

Meredith Monk & Vocal Ensemble and Alarm Will Sound “Anthem”  Begins with sounding like being in a studio setting (and so it is, when I leave my document and look at the video).  Woodwinds start, then abruptly end, where piano comes in.  I like that it takes it’s time, with the various musicians quietly entering.  There are also vibes first played with a bow, then in the more traditional way.  Some  quiet vocalization begins (and is joined from time to time by others) and flute accompanies here, then reeds, then violins and cellos.  This is very sophisticated, hypnotic and lovely music, with a feeling of the divine. 

Hon Mention:  Krystian Zimerman The Cleveland Orchestra  Pierre Boulez “Ravel: Piano Concerto in G Major, M. 83 - 2. Adagio assai”  Just beautiful.  I don’t know if I’ve heard this particular version or not, but am a big fan of Ravel’s works.  Solo piano is joined after a time with flute, with the orchestra very quiet in the background, then back to piano, with is more up in the mix than previously.  The piano continues and the orchestra swells underneath.  Flute returns for a bit.  This just goes by so quickly for me, doesn’t feel at all like over 9 minutes.  So subtle and gorgeous. 

Hon Mention: Karl Seglem “Springar fra fjord” Begins with violins (or maybe nyckelharpa?)  and a drum sound, kind of like a tabor.  Then the sounds get more full, is there guitar or the like underlying?  Flutes or whistles kick in, this is quite enjoyable to my ear.  Much more of a world music feel than I was expecting from your intro.  Saxophone comes in, soloing.  The first note or two, almost echoes the sound of a bagpipe, as it moves from the more world sound into jazz realm with drums and organ or piano underlay.  Becomes more experimental in feel as it gets deeper into the piece.  There is a bit of a duet with I’m not sure what instrument, but then kicks back in with violin or nyckelharpa and back we go to the world music.  Lovely!

Hon Mention:Light Field Reverie “All Roads Lead Home”  Wiggly keys to begin, then synths with percussive sounds, in a minor key.  Ethereal female vocals, very beautiful!  This is very haunting, I think my favourite of anything you’ve ever posted.  Love the mix as well.  There is a male, spoken part, about 2/3rds in, but it suits the piece well.  




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Ok, I have listened to every piece, and here's to you my podium:


1) Mermen - Burn. I like it very much. It sounds proggy. Industrial prog. 

2) Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen - Je ne me tairai jamais, Jamais. This is cultured music. Dissonant. Avantguarde. Close to lyrical opera. 


3) Quicksilver



Honorable mentions:


4) Marius Popp


5) Gomez


6) Buffalo Springfield


7) Allman Brothers


8) Ravel (I love Concert for the left hand)





Edited by jamesbaldwin - January 01 2021 at 16:12
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Nice, thank you very much for voting for Je ne me tairai jamais :)
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