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Which of these three compositions do you prefer?

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Poll Question: Which of these three compositions do you prefer?
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    Posted: December 29 2020 at 12:06
3 different compositions thrown into this mix. take your pick.

"but why these 3?" you may ask. the reason is that I think the best way to describe what "Zeuhl" is is saying it is a mixture of these 3.

"Porgy and Bess":


"Carmina Burana":



"The Miraculous Mandarin":




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I wondered where you were going with this poll, until I read your post. Very clever!
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Congratulations on the inventive use of 24 poll options for just three pieces of music. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2020 at 12:23
Lots to love in The Miraculous Mandarin" by Béla Bartók, reminds me of the soundtrack to the 60's 'Lost In Space' episodes.

And who doesn't love the bravado of Gershwin.

But I bought my first Carl Orff LP around 1973 and guess what, it was Carmina Burana - Philadelphia Orchestra Eugene Ormandy Conducting (Columbia M 31839) and I still have it today. Carl gets my vote.
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Orff, of courff.
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I like Porgy and Bess, performed by Miles Davis......I'll pick option one (1) I suppose.
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The other two are very good and cinematic, but Carl Orff's Carmina Burana is just my thing! It sounds like an epic metal music (including some interludes), with a classical sound. As a metal music fan, you just can do nothing but get hooked on O Fortuna, when you first hear it. (It doesn't matter in which order you meet them, cause if you're a real metal music fan, it should have a solid background.) Majestic!!!

Verdi's Requiem: "Dies irae" also sounds very metal. Symphony X (a prog metal band) has a rendition of this part as the intro (prelude) of their album: V. Very good, but I prefer the original. I don't want to comment on Therion's rendition of O Fortuna. OK, I want to do it. It sounds horrible, haha.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2020 at 15:05
My traditional favourite of these is Carmine Burana, which I have listened to so many times. It’s one of the first CDs I had, which was often double-bilked with Holst’s The Planets which also has cinematic qualities. “O Fortuna” was the original hook, but I love the whole thing, and actually can still much of it. With O Fortuna, it reminded me of films and music such as Jerry Goldsmith’s The Omen soundtrack. And methinks it was used in a John Boorman’s (he of Zardoz infamy) Exacalibur which I loved. Prog y and Bess just got blasted in the house one too many times. It’s wonderful music, but my dad, who was hard of hearing due to an explosion when he was army, would play it very loudly and very often. We lived in a house with a fair sized yard, but the neighbors complained about that one specifically. Somehow they never complained when he was blasting Brahms. That said, I’m voting for the Bartok which I haven’t heard nearly as much, but highly enjoyed listening to earlier thanks to this topic.

And that Verdi is wonderful.

Speaking of Boiorman and Zardoz and cinematic, films really did get me very much into a lot of classical. I so love Beethoven’s Seventh in Zardoz, and his Ninth in Kubrick’s A Clocksork Orange and in the short film The Mumbler (Mompelaar or something like that). And the Hunger for the Delibes and Schubert. I love soundtracks.
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Know second and third and like them. Probably Bartok a bit more.
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Gerschwinbartorff is Kobaian for zeuhl Clown

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I'm not familiar with the Bartok piece, but I really like other works of his, so I imagine I would like this one too.

Porgy and Bess I have watched in television a couple of times, but it's long time ago now. The one song I still recall is of course "Summertime" which is great (and even more so in Janis Joplin's interpretation).

Carmina Burana I have a somewhat ambiguous relationship with. It's obviously very well composed, and the (often modal) harmonic patterns are interesting. However, I have gotten rather tired of it over the years which is probably due to the fact that we performed it in high school. Also, some years ago there was a trend with TV entertainment theme music (at least in Denmark) that absolutely had to sound a lot like "O Fortuna" - usually with added metal guitar and drums. That made me even more tired of it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2020 at 15:35
I like them all.

Probably mi fave is Porgy and Bess, then Bartok, than Orff.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2020 at 15:48
a little side note on "The Miraculous Mandarin": its debut performance on Nov 27th 1926 in Cologne caused a scandal on moral grounds, and therefore it was forbidden to be performed again by the lord mayor of Cologne, a certain Konrad Adenauer who became the first chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany in 1949


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Orff for moi. 
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Bartok for me, then Gershwin. Orff I've heard too often.
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