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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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3 different compositions thrown into this mix. take your pick. "but
why these 3?" you may ask. the reason is that I think the best way to
describe what "Zeuhl" is is saying it is a mixture of these 3. "Porgy and Bess": "Carmina Burana": "The Miraculous Mandarin": Edited by BaldJean - December 29 2020 at 12:13 |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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I wondered where you were going with this poll, until I read your post. Very clever!
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 43916 |
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Congratulations on the inventive use of 24 poll options for just three pieces of music.
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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Lots to love in The Miraculous Mandarin" by Béla Bartók, reminds me of the soundtrack to the 60's 'Lost In Space' episodes. And who doesn't love the bravado of Gershwin. But I bought my first Carl Orff LP around 1973 and guess what, it was Carmina Burana - Philadelphia Orchestra Eugene Ormandy Conducting (Columbia M 31839) and I still have it today. Carl gets my vote.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13238 |
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Orff, of courff.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17988 |
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I like Porgy and Bess, performed by Miles Davis......I'll pick option one (1) I suppose.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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The other two are very good and cinematic, but Carl Orff's Carmina Burana is just my thing! It sounds like an epic metal music (including some interludes), with a classical sound. As a metal music fan, you just can do nothing but get hooked on O Fortuna, when you first hear it. (It doesn't matter in which order you meet them, cause if you're a real metal music fan, it should have a solid background.) Majestic!!!
Verdi's Requiem: "Dies irae" also sounds very metal. Symphony X (a prog metal band) has a rendition of this part as the intro (prelude) of their album: V. Very good, but I prefer the original. I don't want to comment on Therion's rendition of O Fortuna. OK, I want to do it. It sounds horrible, haha. Edited by Shadowyzard - December 29 2020 at 13:02 |
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My traditional favourite of these is Carmine Burana, which I have listened to so many times. It’s one of the first CDs I had, which was often double-bilked with Holst’s The Planets which also has cinematic qualities. “O Fortuna” was the original hook, but I love the whole thing, and actually can still much of it. With O Fortuna, it reminded me of films and music such as Jerry Goldsmith’s The Omen soundtrack. And methinks it was used in a John Boorman’s (he of Zardoz infamy) Exacalibur which I loved. Prog y and Bess just got blasted in the house one too many times. It’s wonderful music, but my dad, who was hard of hearing due to an explosion when he was army, would play it very loudly and very often. We lived in a house with a fair sized yard, but the neighbors complained about that one specifically. Somehow they never complained when he was blasting Brahms. That said, I’m voting for the Bartok which I haven’t heard nearly as much, but highly enjoyed listening to earlier thanks to this topic.
And that Verdi is wonderful. Speaking of Boiorman and Zardoz and cinematic, films really did get me very much into a lot of classical. I so love Beethoven’s Seventh in Zardoz, and his Ninth in Kubrick’s A Clocksork Orange and in the short film The Mumbler (Mompelaar or something like that). And the Hunger for the Delibes and Schubert. I love soundtracks. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15216 |
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Know second and third and like them. Probably Bartok a bit more.
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Gerschwinbartorff is Kobaian for zeuhl
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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I'm not familiar with the Bartok piece, but I really like other works of his, so I imagine I would like this one too. Porgy and Bess I have watched in television a couple of times, but it's long time ago now. The one song I still recall is of course "Summertime" which is great (and even more so in Janis Joplin's interpretation). Carmina Burana I have a somewhat ambiguous relationship with. It's obviously very well composed, and the (often modal) harmonic patterns are interesting. However, I have gotten rather tired of it over the years which is probably due to the fact that we performed it in high school. Also, some years ago there was a trend with TV entertainment theme music (at least in Denmark) that absolutely had to sound a lot like "O Fortuna" - usually with added metal guitar and drums. That made me even more tired of it.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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I like them all.
Probably mi fave is Porgy and Bess, then Bartok, than Orff.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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a little side note on "The Miraculous Mandarin": its debut performance on Nov 27th 1926 in Cologne caused a scandal on moral grounds, and therefore it was forbidden to be performed again by the lord mayor of Cologne, a certain Konrad Adenauer who became the first chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany in 1949
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Orff for moi.
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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"Carmina Burana"
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Tancos ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2021 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 463 |
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Bartok for me, then Gershwin. Orff I've heard too often.
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