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Easy Money 
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 Posted: December 17 2020 at 08:42 |
Message deleted as it seems to be a non-sequitur at this point of the conversation. 
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 08:44 |
 SteveG wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
SteveG wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
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Lewian wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Meet Dolores Cahill, who is calling out the entire covid scare a scam.
Oh here are her credentials.
BIOProf. Dr Dolores Cahill (follows pile of text that isn't meant to be read but just to generate awe by sheer length) (...)
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Not discussing her as a person and her credentials, just as an example, around 23-25 minutes she goes on about the fact that up to 11 March when the WHO declared Covid a pandemic there were 56 deaths a day from Covid, a ridiculously low number. She cites WHO numbers as credible there. Actually this is more or less correct, but look what happens after 11 March here, under daily deaths: March 20 there are more than 1,000, April 15 more than 8,000, these days more than 12,000. She portrays March 11 number as "near the end of the flu season" emphasising that Coronavirus behaves like the flu and "nobody can die from Coronavirus after April"; later "only between December and March", totally ignoring the fact that positive tests normally are some two weeks after infection and death weeks after the positive test and obviously totally ignoring the fact that Covid only came in big numbers to Europe and the US end February and March. In DECEMBER she discusses Covid based on numbers from 11 March (which she seems to trust as opposed to the October-December numbers from the same institution that are never commented on as far as I can see)! And using numbers from the same institution that now counts more than 1.5 million deaths from Coronavirus compared to the half million she quotes for annual flu deaths in the past, and those 1.5 millions are despite lockdowns and restrictions all over the place.
She also says US data for April-June are "like herd immunity works". Good for you Americans! There are some European data she shows going up to August or September - exactly when numbers where lowest, carefully handpicked with different end days per country, and there she stops. Evil be to him who evil thinks... (all data she uses are in line with the source I linked above, so you can check what happened in every case after the reference day she chose to use).
Well I guess I've got to give it to her that she used some intelligence there... to very obviously manipulate on purpose.
The interviewer adds "they want to take down mankind (with the vaccine) and blame it all on Coronavirus". Dolores: "Absolutely". Have fun then.
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Why do you think she is misleading and others aren't? I don't know who is telling the truth. I'm just sharing an alternative perspective from someone more than qualified to do so. These discrepancies lead me to believe no one which is why i distrust the medical establishment and instead choose to follow the path of optimal health of my own making. Total health sovereignty so to speak. The benefit is that i NEVER get sick. Not even one little sniffle.
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There is a simple reason for this belief: Scientists are surprisingly not interested in deluding others, they are interested in the progress of science. Very rarely there are groundbreaking new hypotheses that later turn into theories when scientists find evidence, like the the theory of evolution, the theory of relativity or quantum theory. But these are extremely rare. So unless sufficient evidence for her hypothesis is found I rather stick with conventional science.
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Science is a tool and can be used for the ultimate good or the most hideous evil. All you have to do is look back to nazi Germany to see how science can be used for horrible deeds. Are you aware that after WW2 that the USA imported as many of the nazi scientists as possible through Project Paperclip (= Operation Paperclip). These scientists started NASA, the CIA and other alphabet agencies, had their identities changed and commenced to take over the fields of medicine and science and governments. The Fourth Reich is alive and well living underground. If you don't think evil exists and that science isn't used by those who are on the dark side then you aren't paying attention. I've been forced to venture down these rabbit holes and have only concluded things are much worse than i could've imagined.
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What is underground about a well known fact? These scientists had officially forsaken their previous ideological stance and turned to science with the US. They were not part of any underground Nazi group as they were watched liked hawks by both the FBI and CIA, who didn't trust them to stay beholden to the US and not venture into working with the USSR. |
Nazi transplants started the FBI and CIA. Don't forget that there were many nazi sympathizers in the US. Many of our corporations actually funded the third reich. There's a lot more to it than you think. Many of them did go to the USSR as well as Argentina. They also had a hidden base in New Schwabenland in Antarctica. The US wasn't as technically advanced which is exactly why the nazis got the upperhand and have been successful in infiltrating the aforementioned organizations. This is a very interesting field of research that many have spent decades uncovering.
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Yes Mike, but that was all before WWII. After WWII, Nazism was thrown in with Communism as the great evil of Socialism. |
The greatest success of the nazis was to infiltrate and to control the narrative. You don't think that history can't be rewritten? There are countless examples of this occurring. This is something i don't have time to expand upon here but i have found credible sources that cast enough doubt on the official narratives for me to continue to explore further :)
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 08:54 |
Easy Money wrote:
The fact that there were nazi sympathizers in the US
is well known, there were lots of them. It took the US a long time to
decide which side they were going to be on. Many US citizens have roots
in Germany, they were not keen on dropping bombs on their relatives.
Even in my own family, my Mom's parents were opposed to fighting the Germans because their parents were from Germany. |
Exactly.
You're touching on the complexities of all of this. In many ways, the
US collaborated with the nazis who wouldn't have been as successful as
they were without corporations funding the cause. Ford funded
manufactured the tanks for example but it goes much deeper. This book
is just one of many. It also seems that these ties go much deeper than
previously thought. The most successful Houdini act of the nazis
probably resulted from the MK Ultra mind control projects of which the
media or modern television played a vital role in crafting a narrative.
This stuff only gets more sickening as you venture into it 
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SteveG
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 08:55 |
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Easy Money
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:18 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:23 |
^Me too..they can be amusing... ..not taking sides on tis discussion but this oft used quote popped into my head and I suppose one can use it on either side of the issue... “Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time, and it annoys the pig."
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:26 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
The fact that there were nazi sympathizers in the US
is well known, there were lots of them. It took the US a long time to
decide which side they were going to be on. Many US citizens have roots
in Germany, they were not keen on dropping bombs on their relatives.
Even in my own family, my Mom's parents were opposed to fighting the Germans because their parents were from Germany. |
Exactly.
You're touching on the complexities of all of this. In many ways, the
US collaborated with the nazis who wouldn't have been as successful as
they were without corporations funding the cause. Ford funded
manufactured the tanks for example but it goes much deeper. This book
is just one of many. It also seems that these ties go much deeper than
previously thought. The most successful Houdini act of the nazis
probably resulted from the MK Ultra mind control projects of which the
media or modern television played a vital role in crafting a narrative.
This stuff only gets more sickening as you venture into it
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I'm still not buying it. This implies that at some point of his or her education a future doctor gets told: "Here are some lies you have to spread to everyone". This is ridiculous.
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Easy Money
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:29 |
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^ Thanks Friede.
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Easy Money
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:58 |
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All of this anti-science and anti-medical knowledge propaganda is one part of the trumpateers' legacy, and so are today's nazis. One should be careful of the bedfellows you keep.
Edited by Easy Money - December 17 2020 at 10:08
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:59 |
Easy Money wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
Message deleted as it seems to be a non-sequitur at this point of the conversation. |
Could you send me a PM? I love non-sequiturs!  |
Well how about; Thanks to hollywood donald there's probably more nazis in the US now than there were in Germany, but that's not really helping the flow of this conversation is it. 
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:59 |
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 10:06 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
You're missing the point. There is a long list of similarly qualified individuals who are saying the exact same thing. She's not saying that nobody died during the summer but rather that these deaths are fraudulently attributed to a condition labeled as covid-19. Absolutely nobody of any stature has said covid doesn't exist. They are saying it has been politicized to paint a false narrative. When you are cranking your numbers you are making certain assumptions.
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This doesn't make the manipulative presentation of data go away. At no point does she refer to WHO data as fraudulent (she only says something hand-waving about some potentially wrongly attributed cases, without making explicit reference to the data she is presenting), and she uses data with flexible end points that all stop before death numbers go up first (in March) or up again (in August/September).
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 12:26 |
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Allegations like this can only be made by people who are not aware of scientific procedure. You can not just claim something; you have to conduct a controlled experiment like a medical study. And as soon as some scientist(s) come(s) up with a study other scientists will try to verify the results of this study. This is how science works; anything else is just BS.
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Posted: December 17 2020 at 15:15 |
There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside 'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites that some here believe in, since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.
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Posted: December 18 2020 at 06:05 |
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 18 2020 at 07:46 |
BaldFriede wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
The fact that there were nazi sympathizers in the US
is well known, there were lots of them. It took the US a long time to
decide which side they were going to be on. Many US citizens have roots
in Germany, they were not keen on dropping bombs on their relatives.
Even in my own family, my Mom's parents were opposed to fighting the Germans because their parents were from Germany. |
Exactly.
You're touching on the complexities of all of this. In many ways, the
US collaborated with the nazis who wouldn't have been as successful as
they were without corporations funding the cause. Ford funded
manufactured the tanks for example but it goes much deeper. This book
is just one of many. It also seems that these ties go much deeper than
previously thought. The most successful Houdini act of the nazis
probably resulted from the MK Ultra mind control projects of which the
media or modern television played a vital role in crafting a narrative.
This stuff only gets more sickening as you venture into it
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I'm still not buying it. This implies that at some point of his or her education a future doctor gets told: "Here are some lies you have to spread to everyone". This is ridiculous.
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You obviously haven't been to medical school. I discovered mistruths being told to me while i was going to college and after having done research it turns out that the US and Canada adopted the Prussian educational system in the early 1900s. Brought to us by robber barons such as Henry Ford, a known Prussian / Nazi sympahtizer, the system was hijacked in order to dumb us down to become cogs in a system. The medical system is chock full of well-intended people who become medical professionals for the right reasons but the system is designed to be profitable therefore preventative measures are rarely taken. When you study the pyramid structure of power it all falls into place. Science and medicine only research that which is funded. Where do you think the funding comes from? Therefore most doctors and nurses do their jobs believing they are doing what's best for the patients but a few free thinkers realize something isn't right and either quit their profession or become whistleblowers, which there have been many. The whole nature viruses is one of the greatest lies ever sold to not only the public but the doctors as well.
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Posted: December 18 2020 at 07:51 |
dr wu23 wrote:
There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside 'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites that some here believe in, since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.
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You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.
Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.
Edited by siLLy puPPy - December 18 2020 at 07:52
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Posted: December 18 2020 at 08:03 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside 'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites that some here believe in, since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.
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You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.
Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.
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Do you even know what "scalar" means? Apparently not, else you would know that all energy is scalar.
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Posted: December 18 2020 at 10:28 |
BaldFriede wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside 'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites that some here believe in, since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.
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You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.
Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.
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Do you even know what "scalar" means? Apparently not, else you would know that all energy is scalar.
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To be a little bit more precise, energy is a scalar quantity. That is a more accurate definition of what you are trying to say.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: December 18 2020 at 10:29 |
lazland wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
There's a lot of BS going around....btw I guess Trump and his right hand cronies must not be in on the inside 'Illuminati Medical Conspiracy ' with the elites that some here believe in, since they all got Covid.....or they forgot to wear their tin foil hats the day that the 'Evil Cartel' fired their scalar rays at us all in America.
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You obviously understand nothing about scalar energy. Why don't you research the topic more and realize the potentials? Evil exists because good people do nothing and ignore it. I understand it's always easier to laugh off things that are complex to understand . It's a psychological reaction to protect you from comprehending the implications and ramifications of any given situation at hand.
Here is a beneficial use of longitudinal magnetic waves. Use your imagination how this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.
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Do you even know what "scalar" means? Apparently not, else you would know that all energy is scalar.
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To be a little bit more precise, energy is a scalar quantity. That is a more accurate definition of what you are trying to say. |
Yes, energy is by definition scalar.
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