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Lewian 
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 Posted: December 13 2020 at 10:02 |
 rogerthat wrote:
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Obviously we're not going to convince each other here, surely not with the repeating request to do more research elsewhere. But fair enough, I can accept that not everything can be explained straight away. So I do take the hint to look around some more on WikiLeaks.
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And who's to say how much of Wikileaks is true and how much isn't? See, obviously, all of it is not false. I don't need any evidence beyond the Establishment's desperate attempts to treat Assange as a persona non grata to believe that Wikileaks has a point. But if I am to believe EVERYTHING they say, that's just exchanging one belief system for another.
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Of course you're right about this. Reading competence means questioning all you see. This doesn't mean you shouldn't even start to read. If we didn't read anything that might not be true, we'd know much less.
By the way, I'm not going to do Mike's job here, but if you're really interested to learn something and to make up your own mind, it shouldn't matter whether the person who first presents something to you comes over as arrogant or does it in whatever style you don't like. They may still have a point. (This one is not to you in particular rogerthat, rather general.) Probably the only thing that makes sense to think is that you may (or not) have the experience that if somebody presents something in a certain dodgy way, it's quite likely to be rubbish (which I do tend to think if people boast too much about their qualifications, what they have done, who they have met etc.). Which you can't know if generally in such cases you don't try to verify.
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Easy Money
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 10:26 |
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This is probably not near complicated or paranoid enough for some of you, but I still think when I need medical advice I'm going to go to my doctor.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:15 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
My hat’s off to Mike. It is very difficult to explain any of these things to anyone who has never read anything from the “other side”.
I’ve more or less completely stopped talking about these things because I am always having to explain myself to folks who’ve never read a single page of say WikiLeaks. People naturally assume that you’ve completely gone fishing...and yet fail to realise that I actually did the proper legwork myself. I read both(several) sides to X and simply chose to believe the things that seem the most plausible...which in essence sounds crazy when you first take a look at some of this stuff.
It’s way easier to shoot everything down without actually looking into it..instead of having to admit to being wrong.
Anyhoo I’m out. I just wanted to give a shout-out to the friendly canine  |
Thanks, David! You know, i'm really just sharing my conclusions. To convince you of everything i've discovered is beyond the scope of this forum. I've literally invested in thousands of hours of research to come to the conclusions that i have. I'm not only a music nerd but a nerd in generally. I can only hope to inspire others to go to the great lengths of research in order to come to their own conclusions. There is much disinfo out there for sure which is why it is imperative to navigate the field of probabilities without ever really feeling a sense of satisfaction that a true ultimate answer has been obtained.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:18 |
BaldFriede wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
suitkees wrote:
^ Now, this sounds a bit different than what you said before, which was more a stance against the capitalist/corporate powers - to which I actually agree with, but especially in the sense to combat the inequalities between people that a capitalist system creates and/or tries to maintain. But the solution you seem to promote is just to adopt the same capitalist/corporate stance for your own financial gain, thus maintaining the inequalities between people of a same society - promoting egoism over solidarity. Exactly the same selfishness that drives people not to wear masks in these covid-dominated times (to get back to the thread topic...).
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Navigating the legal system and adhering to natural laws are two completely different topics. Anybody can still be a profit seeking psychopath as a sovereign secure creditor. Many of the rich elites already know all this stuff which is why they avoid paying federal income taxes. They research this information. Most don't. As far as masks go, there is no consensus on that. My point of bringing up this legal stuff is to show that those who are making decisions about public health are really corporations disguising as governments making these mandates for their own agendas. When it comes to this sovereignty stuff the financial part is a benefit but escaping the jurisdiction of the psychopaths is golden.
Think of it like this. When you work for a corporation like Wal-Mart for example, you agree to abide by the company's policies while you are at the job. When you are a citizen of the US corporation (or any other around the planet) you are agreeing to its policies and therefore subject to its rules and regulations and forfeiting your constitutional rights. By going through all this legal mumbo jumbo you are basically becoming an independent contractor and can operate as benign or as maliciously as the freewill universe allows. Many of the richest individuals understand these concepts which is why they monopolize the markets.
These principles very much apply to this service corporation dictating mask wearing, lockdowns etc. As a biologist who studies what's going on, i see more agenda playing out than actual science.
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I just want to point out that there is no such thing as "adhering to natural laws".
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Oh really? Gravity isn't a natural law? Go ahead and jump off a cliff and see if those laws don't apply to you whether you believe in them or not.
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You are missing my point. Of course there are natural laws. But saying you "adhere" to them to me implies that there is some way not to adhere to them. Natural laws are there, period.
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Adhere in the sense of obey and live in harmony with. Sorry if i misunderstood. We can either choose to live within the confines of universal laws or suffer the consequences. For example if we are sugar addicts and sugar is a toxin, then we will suffer the consequences of our decision to do that which is harmful to our biological temple. The same exists on the emotional plane where if we do something to another, that there will be consequences for such actions.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:22 |
Easy Money wrote:
This is probably not near complicated or paranoid enough for some of you, but I still think when I need medical advice I'm going to go to my doctor. |
Considering medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the USA, why do you confuse paranoia for downright mistrust and being informed of the reality that exists?
As a biology major i have much more insight into how utterly incompetent the medical system is. If you do not fall into the business plan paradigm which they have crafted then you are basically ruined. There's a reason medical school is so expensive. It's a financial trap.
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Easy Money
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:25 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
This is probably not near complicated or paranoid enough for some of you, but I still think when I need medical advice I'm going to go to my doctor. |
Considering medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the USA, why do you confuse paranoia for downright mistrust and being informed of the reality that exists?
As a biology major i have much more insight into how utterly incompetent the medical system is. If you do not fall into the business plan paradigm which they have crafted then you are basically ruined. There's a reason medical school is so expensive. It's a financial trap.
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Sorry pal, between you and my doctor, I think I like my doctor better.
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 19:11 |
Lewian wrote:
By the way, I'm not going to do Mike's job here, but if you're really interested to learn something and to make up your own mind, it shouldn't matter whether the person who first presents something to you comes over as arrogant or does it in whatever style you don't like. They may still have a point. (This one is not to you in particular rogerthat, rather general.) Probably the only thing that makes sense to think is that you may (or not) have the experience that if somebody presents something in a certain dodgy way, it's quite likely to be rubbish (which I do tend to think if people boast too much about their qualifications, what they have done, who they have met etc.). Which you can't know if generally in such cases you don't try to verify.
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In theory, I agree with this. In practice, my time is finite. So I would say more than the tone of what the person is saying, it is the sources he relies upon. When audiovisual info is presented through a documentary, I am more receptive. Why? Because somebody took the effort and expense to shoot it, they interviewed people and they are presenting facts - again - that I can cross verify. Now if you come at me saying everything I have been told by the media is false and present a one hour podcast by somebody whose own credentials are unknown or dubious, that's not very persuasive. Fine, maybe that makes me too conventional but I can live with that. I know that there is plenty of times that a consensus is simply manufactured on flimsy or even no evidence by the mainstream to get people to obey. But if I have to KNOW what REALLY is the truth, I need a little more than somebody's educated guesswork aired on a podcast. As an accountant, my standards of evidence are higher.
So it goes back to what you said earlier. For people like Mike, having an alternative set of things they CAN believe in is very important. It is not for me. I have comfortably lived with the realization that we're lied to for many, many years and will continue to do so. I guess cultural background makes a difference here. I guess it was Oxford that nominated post truth as word of the year in 2017? Well, we have had post truth here in India for many, many years before that. We have already had to deal with having to be extremely cynical to get through life in a third world country. So I have never had a particular eureka moment where my beliefs being shattered felt debilitating. One just shrugs and moves on, just keeping an eye out on things. For example, at some point, the powers that be are going to dump the dollar and switch to cryptocurrencies. I just don't know how soon that is - next year or a couple of years down the line or still later. IF you believed everything the news said, you would not think it is possible but reading between the lines and connecting disparate events suggests that this is on the anvil.
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 20:10 |
Easy Money wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
This is probably not near complicated or paranoid enough for some of you, but I still think when I need medical advice I'm going to go to my doctor. |
Considering medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the USA, why do you confuse paranoia for downright mistrust and being informed of the reality that exists?
As a biology major i have much more insight into how utterly incompetent the medical system is. If you do not fall into the business plan paradigm which they have crafted then you are basically ruined. There's a reason medical school is so expensive. It's a financial trap.
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Sorry pal, between you and my doctor, I think I like my doctor better. |
Well you, like many, seem to be a reality denier. I hope your doctor is one of the good ones. They do exist but the statistics are definitely an atrocity for a so-called developed nation. Personally i do not go to doctors, dentists or any medical establishment. Guess what! I never get sick, i have no cavities, i exude optimal health and never and i mean never get depressed or suffer any other mental disorder this nation is so famous for. You know why? Because i coincide with natural laws: physically, emotionally and spiritually. I don't even have health insurance! Why? Because i don't need it because as a biologist i figured out long ago that they sell you the poison so they can sell you the cure  |
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Easy Money
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 20:24 |
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^ I have never had a doctor try to sell me anything, poison or otherwise. Where did you hear of such a thing?
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 22:34 |
Easy Money wrote:
^ I have never had a doctor try to sell me anything, poison or otherwise. Where did you hear of such a thing? |
I can give you an example. In the US, pain was designated as a serious disease so that opioids could be prescribed for patients experiencing acute pain. Unfortunately opioids are addictive, thus precipitating the opioid addiction crisis of recent years. It may surprise you to know that in India, strict restrictions are placed on prescribing opioids (especially because India is the biggest exporter of Fentanyl to the US, lol!). There is simply no question of buying opioids over the counter or even against a doctor's prescription. Hospitals may acquire them in limited quantities with strict monitoring for, say, patients who are recovering from a major fracture. Even in such cases, opioids are administered only in very small quantities. Doctors HAVE been campaigning here to lift such restrictions. A case could be made indeed that our restrictions are too severe. However, it is preferable to allowing opioids to be administered too freely.
Edited by rogerthat - December 13 2020 at 22:47
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 13 2020 at 22:37 |
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In short, from the outside looking in, healthcare in the US is too much in the control of the pharma lobby. Doctors have a lot more independence, for now, in India. There is clearly a move underfoot to push India into a US like model by tying corporate health insurance to panel hospitals and doctors. But even then, the last link in the chain - between pharma and healthcare providers - is still not as strong just yet. And only a few large corporates offer health insurance in that structure as described above. So for it to determine the way healthcare is administered everywhere in the country is a long way off, hopefully never.
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Lewian
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 04:13 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
You know why? Because i coincide with natural laws: physically, emotionally and spiritually.
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Once more, natural laws are those you have no choice to not adhere to, and neither has anybody else including Easy Money. (As a biologist you should know that.)
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Lewian
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 04:17 |
rogerthat wrote:
Lewian wrote:
By the way, I'm not going to do Mike's job here, but if you're really interested to learn something and to make up your own mind, it shouldn't matter whether the person who first presents something to you comes over as arrogant or does it in whatever style you don't like. They may still have a point. (This one is not to you in particular rogerthat, rather general.) Probably the only thing that makes sense to think is that you may (or not) have the experience that if somebody presents something in a certain dodgy way, it's quite likely to be rubbish (which I do tend to think if people boast too much about their qualifications, what they have done, who they have met etc.). Which you can't know if generally in such cases you don't try to verify.
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In theory, I agree with this. In practice, my time is finite. So I would say more than the tone of what the person is saying, it is the sources he relies upon. When audiovisual info is presented through a documentary, I am more receptive. Why? Because somebody took the effort and expense to shoot it, they interviewed people and they are presenting facts - again - that I can cross verify. Now if you come at me saying everything I have been told by the media is false and present a one hour podcast by somebody whose own credentials are unknown or dubious, that's not very persuasive. Fine, maybe that makes me too conventional but I can live with that. I know that there is plenty of times that a consensus is simply manufactured on flimsy or even no evidence by the mainstream to get people to obey. But if I have to KNOW what REALLY is the truth, I need a little more than somebody's educated guesswork aired on a podcast. As an accountant, my standards of evidence are higher.
So it goes back to what you said earlier. For people like Mike, having an alternative set of things they CAN believe in is very important. It is not for me. I have comfortably lived with the realization that we're lied to for many, many years and will continue to do so. I guess cultural background makes a difference here. I guess it was Oxford that nominated post truth as word of the year in 2017? Well, we have had post truth here in India for many, many years before that. We have already had to deal with having to be extremely cynical to get through life in a third world country. So I have never had a particular eureka moment where my beliefs being shattered felt debilitating. One just shrugs and moves on, just keeping an eye out on things. For example, at some point, the powers that be are going to dump the dollar and switch to cryptocurrencies. I just don't know how soon that is - next year or a couple of years down the line or still later. IF you believed everything the news said, you would not think it is possible but reading between the lines and connecting disparate events suggests that this is on the anvil. |
This is your choice, and of course it's a legitimate one. My point was just that the way the person who asks you to explore a certain thing makes their point is not often a very good reason for making the choice to not explore it. You may of course have other good reasons. (I've got to say from what I have up to now seen from videos Mike has linked or what I have found following hints, I haven't seen much or even anything that I could use as an argument to change your mind.  )
Edited by Lewian - December 14 2020 at 04:20
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 05:00 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
suitkees wrote:
^ Now, this sounds a bit different than what you said before, which was more a stance against the capitalist/corporate powers - to which I actually agree with, but especially in the sense to combat the inequalities between people that a capitalist system creates and/or tries to maintain. But the solution you seem to promote is just to adopt the same capitalist/corporate stance for your own financial gain, thus maintaining the inequalities between people of a same society - promoting egoism over solidarity. Exactly the same selfishness that drives people not to wear masks in these covid-dominated times (to get back to the thread topic...).
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Navigating the legal system and adhering to natural laws are two completely different topics. Anybody can still be a profit seeking psychopath as a sovereign secure creditor. Many of the rich elites already know all this stuff which is why they avoid paying federal income taxes. They research this information. Most don't. As far as masks go, there is no consensus on that. My point of bringing up this legal stuff is to show that those who are making decisions about public health are really corporations disguising as governments making these mandates for their own agendas. When it comes to this sovereignty stuff the financial part is a benefit but escaping the jurisdiction of the psychopaths is golden.
Think of it like this. When you work for a corporation like Wal-Mart for example, you agree to abide by the company's policies while you are at the job. When you are a citizen of the US corporation (or any other around the planet) you are agreeing to its policies and therefore subject to its rules and regulations and forfeiting your constitutional rights. By going through all this legal mumbo jumbo you are basically becoming an independent contractor and can operate as benign or as maliciously as the freewill universe allows. Many of the richest individuals understand these concepts which is why they monopolize the markets.
These principles very much apply to this service corporation dictating mask wearing, lockdowns etc. As a biologist who studies what's going on, i see more agenda playing out than actual science.
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I just want to point out that there is no such thing as "adhering to natural laws".
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Oh really? Gravity isn't a natural law? Go ahead and jump off a cliff and see if those laws don't apply to you whether you believe in them or not.
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You are missing my point. Of course there are natural laws. But saying you "adhere" to them to me implies that there is some way not to adhere to them. Natural laws are there, period.
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Adhere in the sense of obey and live in harmony with. Sorry if i misunderstood. We can either choose to live within the confines of universal laws or suffer the consequences. For example if we are sugar addicts and sugar is a toxin, then we will suffer the consequences of our decision to do that which is harmful to our biological temple. The same exists on the emotional plane where if we do something to another, that there will be consequences for such actions.
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sugar itself is NOT a poison; it is REFINED sugar that is a poison. natural sugar appears in all kinds of fruits that are extremely healthy
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 A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Easy Money
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 06:05 |
rogerthat wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
^ I have never had a doctor try to sell me anything, poison or otherwise. Where did you hear of such a thing? |
I can give you an example. In the US, pain was designated as a serious disease so that opioids could be prescribed for patients experiencing acute pain. Unfortunately opioids are addictive, thus precipitating the opioid addiction crisis of recent years. It may surprise you to know that in India, strict restrictions are placed on prescribing opioids (especially because India is the biggest exporter of Fentanyl to the US, lol!). There is simply no question of buying opioids over the counter or even against a doctor's prescription. Hospitals may acquire them in limited quantities with strict monitoring for, say, patients who are recovering from a major fracture. Even in such cases, opioids are administered only in very small quantities. Doctors HAVE been campaigning here to lift such restrictions. A case could be made indeed that our restrictions are too severe. However, it is preferable to allowing opioids to be administered too freely.
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I would agree with that, I rarely use opoids, dental surgery being the one exception. I was merely pointing out that I have never had any personal doctor try to sell me anything. The fact that there are criminals in any professional field is unfortunate. If you actually know of a doctor who is selling anything to patients, you should contact the police. As regards your following post about the pharma industry problem, I would agree with that as well, but getting advice from a personal doctor would have nothing to do with that.
Edited by Easy Money - December 14 2020 at 06:09
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Lewian
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 06:08 |
Apparently there is a Covid-related "great reset" advertised by some, which in my ears doesn't sound that bad. Of course only taking into account what its supporters openly say they want, not what is mentioned under "conspiracy theory" on that website (and of course I'm leaving open the possibility that the whole thing is not quite as benign as it is sold to be); I'd be curious what people like Silly Puppy think of that.
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 06:12 |
Easy Money wrote:
I would agree with that, I rarely use opoids, dental surgery being the one exception. I was merely pointing out that I have never had any personal doctor try to sell me anything. The fact that there are criminals in any professional field is unfortunate. If you actually know of a doctor who is selling anything to patients, you should contact the police.
As regards your following post about the pharma industry problem, I would agree with that as well, but getting advice from a personal doctor would have nothing to do with that. |
I don't think they would literally sell but the pharma industry pitches certain medicines to them. Which in turn they will start prescribing to patients. That happens here too on a much smaller scale. There is just more regulation....on paper. We are more vulnerable, if anything, to individually corrupt doctors than in the US because of weak litigation but less vulnerable to pharma getting through to doctors to push certain medicines.
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 06:15 |
rogerthat wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
I would agree with that, I rarely use opoids, dental surgery being the one exception. I was merely pointing out that I have never had any personal doctor try to sell me anything. The fact that there are criminals in any professional field is unfortunate. If you actually know of a doctor who is selling anything to patients, you should contact the police.
As regards your following post about the pharma industry problem, I would agree with that as well, but getting advice from a personal doctor would have nothing to do with that. |
I don't think they would literally sell but the pharma industry pitches certain medicines to them. Which in turn they will start prescribing to patients. That happens here too on a much smaller scale. There is just more regulation....on paper. We are more vulnerable, if anything, to individually corrupt doctors than in the US because of weak litigation but less vulnerable to pharma getting through to doctors to push certain medicines. |
No argument with that either, we are just talking about two different things here. Doctors are not allowed to directly sell anything to patients, and I have never seen such a thing happen. People break the law in any field, but any personal doctor I have had is not part of that.
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 06:23 |
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
This is probably not near complicated or paranoid enough for some of you, but I still think when I need medical advice I'm going to go to my doctor. |
Considering medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the USA, why do you confuse paranoia for downright mistrust and being informed of the reality that exists?
As a biology major i have much more insight into how utterly incompetent the medical system is. If you do not fall into the business plan paradigm which they have crafted then you are basically ruined. There's a reason medical school is so expensive. It's a financial trap.
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Sorry pal, between you and my doctor, I think I like my doctor better. |
Well you, like many, seem to be a reality denier. I hope your doctor is one of the good ones. They do exist but the statistics are definitely an atrocity for a so-called developed nation. Personally i do not go to doctors, dentists or any medical establishment. Guess what! I never get sick, i have no cavities, i exude optimal health and never and i mean never get depressed or suffer any other mental disorder this nation is so famous for. You know why? Because i coincide with natural laws: physically, emotionally and spiritually. I don't even have health insurance! Why? Because i don't need it because as a biologist i figured out long ago that they sell you the poison so they can sell you the cure |
Yes, I knew a scientist who, like you, was also a science denier as medicine is a science. He never went to doctors, had no health insurance, and like you, claimed to have no cavities and never went to a dentist. He died at 43. An autopsy revealed that he died of undiagnosed hypertension. People remembered him for two things: he was an odd person and his breath was always bad.
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Posted: December 14 2020 at 06:40 |
SteveG wrote:
[Yes, I knew a scientist who, like you, was also a science denier as medicine is a science. He never went to doctors, had no health insurance, and like you, claimed to have no cavities and never went to a dentist. He died at 43. An autopsy revealed that he died of undiagnosed hypertension. People remembered him for two things: he was an odd person and his breath was always bad.
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One of my uncles is a dentist and a strong believer in 'natural healing'. So he would never administer even Paracetamol to his children when they ran high fever.
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