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Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by Mind_Drive Mind_Drive wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Soul is different from the body.



For those, who want to learn my point of view and "stand". 


First of all thank you for your lovely words in your last post! I appreciate! :)

This charismatic old man is right.. our souls as well as our bodies are made up from the same thing. But our bodies are still just the densest, most physical expression of it. we have many other bodies, too (etheric, emotional, mental, astral...). And soul is what we call the totality of those bodies. You keep some of them after death and over multiple incarnations, they hold the records of everything you've ever been. 

However, even our souls are just an expression of our true higher self, which is eternal, indestructible and in essence god. On our journey back home through the dimensions /the whole spectrum of frequencies, we will live in many different forms and states of consciousness. the upper we go, the less form we'll have. we will be able to merge with other souls (our twinflame) completely and soar through the universe in our lightbodies.

Truly guys, I am constantly floored when thinking about it, but I know I am still only scratching the surface of what is awaiting us..




To be fair, Steve, I think you're flogging a dead horse here.
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besides all that the question still remains tho:

what if this all IS infact true? 
...this would have serious implications for our current state of affairs here on earth:

luckily the light has already won and we will see big changes happen soon.. 

so it is actually not crucially important anymore, but every single person who is aware and holds the vision
of this huge impending paradigmshiftm, helps manifest it sooner!

most people can't even imagine what this means.
imagine fish born in an aquarium suddenly let free into the ocean...

humanity is about to experience the biggest liberation ever and litteral paradise will be the result of it.

...so what if this infact IS true?! :D ;*
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Yes, religion is like politics.....it's about mind control.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

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Actually older, as his mindset was derived from 19th century social philosophers. These two aspects, religion and spirituality, are now seen as counter intuitive to one another. Religion is about mind control. Spirituality is about freedom of thought. This change came about in the late 60s with the advent of inter personal psychology, where the ego is seen as the soul that was once so derided by dead poets and playwrights like Shaw. There's nothing wrong with living in the past, just don't expect to make sense of the present if you do.

Hi,

GBS's comment, for me, is like a perfect commercial for corporate philosophy ... here, I pay you, so shut up and work for me!

But I think that GBS, in his cleverness, said that because he didn't want to be listed along with the bunch of crazies and fools around him, many of which thought he was silly in the first place!

The idea that the change came about in the 60's, I think it is possible, but I kinda believe that it is a sort of thing that started after the incredible destruction of WW2 ... and in particular for me, one comment about the scene in Germany that resonated a lot for me ... by Edgar Froese, specifying that it was a new time, a new place, no old influences and all you had was yourself ... and it begins to flourish ... and in some cases it brings about a lot of arts ... and America also had its share in film, theater, TV and many things ... however (sadly) the USA got stuck in the commercial aspect of it all, and the 60's in a weird sort of way, was a grand try at getting out of the commercial juggernaut ... which we have found out is impossible, since now the corporate structure is the one looking to buy all the dope so they can sell it to the public ... more "puffers" for the "puffees" who are unhappy ... this new flavor will help them smile!

GBS, though, for me, can be really boring and you will never get me to touch a single play, or scene from one of his plays ... they just don't "click" for me and they feel like "automated" words that even sound very hollow ...



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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Soul is different from the body.



For those, who want to learn my point of view and "stand". 

There's nothing more difficult than arguing with a prejudiced mind. Take a good look at Shaw's ancient face. Your views are as old as he is. Actually older, as his mindset was derived from 19th century social philosophers. These two aspects, religion and spirituality, are now seen as counter intuitive to one another. Religion is about mind control. Spirituality is about freedom of thought. This change came about in the late 60s with the advent of inter personal psychology, where the ego is seen as the soul that was once so derided by dead poets and playwrights like Shaw. There's nothing wrong with living in the past, just don't expect to make sense of the present if you do.


I said "point of view", not anything else. So I don't claim that I "know" this. My job is more difficult here, belileve me.
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Originally posted by Mind_Drive Mind_Drive wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Soul is different from the body.



For those, who want to learn my point of view and "stand". 


First of all thank you for your lovely words in your last post! I appreciate! :)

This charismatic old man is right.. our souls as well as our bodies are made up from the same thing. But our bodies are still just the densest, most physical expression of it. we have many other bodies, too (etheric, emotional, mental, astral...). And soul is what we call the totality of those bodies. You keep some of them after death and over multiple incarnations, they hold the records of everything you've ever been. 

However, even our souls are just an expression of our true higher self, which is eternal, indestructible and in essence god. On our journey back home through the dimensions /the whole spectrum of frequencies, we will live in many different forms and states of consciousness. the upper we go, the less form we'll have. we will be able to merge with other souls (our twinflame) completely and soar through the universe in our lightbodies.

Truly guys, I am constantly floored when thinking about it, but I know I am still only scratching the surface of what is awaiting us..




To be fair, Steve, I think you're flogging a dead horse here. What the poster believes is 'right' and 'true' and everything else will be treated with condescending sympathy for us poor damned people who aren't in the 'special' group.
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Soul is different from the body.



For those, who want to learn my point of view and "stand". 


First of all thank you for your lovely words in your last post! I appreciate! :)

This charismatic old man is right.. our souls as well as our bodies are made up from the same thing. But our bodies are still just the densest, most physical expression of it. we have many other bodies, too (etheric, emotional, mental, astral...). And soul is what we call the totality of those bodies. You keep some of them after death and over multiple incarnations, they hold the records of everything you've ever been. 

However, even our souls are just an expression of our true higher self, which is eternal, indestructible and in essence god. On our journey back home through the dimensions /the whole spectrum of frequencies, we will live in many different forms and states of consciousness. the upper we go, the less form we'll have. we will be able to merge with other souls (our twinflame) completely and soar through the universe in our lightbodies.

Truly guys, I am constantly floored when thinking about it, but I know I am still only scratching the surface of what is awaiting us..



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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Soul is different from the body.



For those, who want to learn my point of view and "stand". 

There's nothing more difficult than arguing with a prejudiced mind. Take a good look at Shaw's ancient face. Your views are as old as he is. Actually older, as his mindset was derived from 19th century social philosophers. These two aspects, religion and spirituality, are now seen as counter intuitive to one another. Religion is about mind control. Spirituality is about freedom of thought. This change came about in the late 60s with the advent of inter personal psychology, where the ego is seen as the soul that was once so derided by dead poets and playwrights like Shaw. There's nothing wrong with living in the past, just don't expect to make sense of the present if you do.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Soul is different from the body.



For those, who want to learn my point of view and "stand". 



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<h2><span>What is Spirituality? For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.</span></h2><p style="text-align: justify;">Spirituality is about the soul within matter. The matter corresponds to our body. Soul is different from the body. Anything pertaining to the soul or the spirit is spiritual. Spirituality refers to an individual. Unlike religion, spirituality on the contrary concentrates and focuses more on the ‘within.’ The term ‘within’ applies to the individual soul.

<p style="text-align: justify;">Spirituality is all about the individual. It is about the realization of the supreme self within you. The realization of the innate power within you to combat all situations in life is the goal of spirituality. Spirituality aims at building strength of the mind and the spirit. It speaks about the real truth of life. Spirituality aims at making you strong in mind. It aims at the elimination of what is all untrue. Spirituality is a mind-building concept. It shapes the mind of the individual. It is individual oriented in content.

<p style="text-align: justify;">Spirituality leads towards enlightenment. Spirituality builds the individual himself.





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What is Spirituality? For those who don't know the difference between Spirituality and Religion.

Spirituality is about the soul within matter. The matter corresponds to our body. Soul is different from the body. Anything pertaining to the soul or the spirit is spiritual. Spirituality refers to an individual. Unlike religion, spirituality on the contrary concentrates and focuses more on the ‘within.’ The term ‘within’ applies to the individual soul.

Spirituality is all about the individual. It is about the realization of the supreme self within you. The realization of the innate power within you to combat all situations in life is the goal of spirituality. Spirituality aims at building strength of the mind and the spirit. It speaks about the real truth of life. Spirituality aims at making you strong in mind. It aims at the elimination of what is all untrue. Spirituality is a mind-building concept. It shapes the mind of the individual. It is individual oriented in content.

Spirituality leads towards enlightenment. Spirituality builds the individual himself.



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Hey everyone here! Spirituality is tantamount to one's connection to the universe. This is a path you have to focus your consciousness on for years before the almighty controller of things allows you access to deeper truths of reality. There is nothing i can say or do to convince you and there is nothing anybody else can either. This is either something you feel a connection to or do not. I would never create a thread like this because it's not my desire to interpolate my life journey upon those who are not interested however i'm happy to drop a comment or two here and there since someone else did.

I can only recount my own experiences and i have had many that utterly convince me of the multi-dimensional universe that surrounds us. The veil is truly thinning which is the point of this thread really and the day is near when timelines and dimensions will cross over.

If you seriously want to research the scientific studies of such esoterica there have been plenty. One amazing adventure of (USA) tax payer money came from the Montauk Project which confirmed the ability of time travel among other inconceivable phenomena. It seems our consciousness does conceive reality and we do live in slightly different worlds in many ways and the collective accord crafts a main frame sort of thing. There have literally been a ridiculous amount of scientific inquiries into many of these esoteric phenomena but most have been classified and / or carried out in places like the former USSR.

The answers really are there at least for things that really matter and so-called spiritual disciplines truly do condition the soul for receiving such downloads. There is a reason these things are not available to all. We live in a reality where we are tested for our moral fortitude and if all the answers were obvious then we would not learn from experience! We would only get by on cheat sheets! It really does make sense once you surrender to the higher frequencies of unconditional love which of course does not take away one's cosmic right of self-defense.

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Dear Constantin and M-EYE-K (Michael?)

I think both of you have a heart of gold. I felt it long before your last post. I'm sincere.

I also am not really an anti-spiritualism or anti-religion guy. I think they were/are a part of our cultural evolution. Whether one likes them or not, it cannot be changed. They also set challenges for people like myself throughout centuries and millennia. You know? It can enrich the culture(s) multi-facetedly. I'm mainly opposed to their utilization as "tools". Otherwise, everything can be treasured, if they enrich one's life, occupies his/her troubled mind etc... 

I also am assuming Steve means something very broad while saying spirituality. Spiritual growth? Sure. Everybody needs that. I just want to make people interpret such things in a realist way. Not "make" actually, I just feel happy when I see that people can do it. Of course, no one would/should think/behave to make me happy. You know? I just feel happier when I see people like that. I just am being open here. (Just add some "Never opened my heart this waaaaay..." drama here. Star)

Until recent years, I was interpreting fictional works differently. Some wisdom I met from a Swedish proverb (Reality surpasses the poem.) and learning how the Chinese assess such stuff just helped me. I'm not a teacher or something here. So, I'm not trying to "teach" anything to anybody. So, sorry for my previous "truth teaching" imposition, which was a result of a depletion of my tolerance. I'm just hoping that my insights can be of some help. Not like trying to make people like myself. You know? Diversity is awesome. Otherwise life would be unbearably boring.

Yet I have to add that you didn't answer my question, with a scientific or historical fact. The claim that the religions, the words of the prophets and the Holy books were distorted is just... well... a claim. You can NEVER know the reality about that, unless time travel or real past time simulations are realized. Both can possibly be achieved, but I fear only our descendants can witness them, if invented.

Also there may be secret technologies and stuff too, or some aliens can bring or brought them too. You know, conspiracy theories are almost never impossible.

One last thing to add, I know lots of things about spiritualism and stuff, as my bandmate is very much into them. I said I'm more of a "anti-spiritualist", but it is only limited to ideological, philosophical and scientific contexts. Also, we're making an album that is about spirituality, aliens and all that jazz... For me, it is like sci-fi, for my bandmate, it is about his beliefs... But, he actually likes to leave the lyrics completely to me, for the next album and I'll probably create a fully original sci-fi concept. He doesn't very much like writing the lyrics himself, but had to do for our upcoming album.

Anyway, take care you two...

Kind regards,

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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Mind_Drive Mind_Drive wrote:

But at their core, all religions point to the same thing, and so does science..


I'm quite bored of this nonsense, but felt like I have to teach you some truth. ABSORB IT!

Science accepts it doesn't know everything and sometimes it was wrong, it can be wrong and it will probably be wrong again, and always progressivelly will try its best; while religions are closed systems, or eternal if you prefer. They claim to know lots of things. Most Muslims in my country love a saying: "Only Allah knows what will happen (the future)". I think this is a soothing point of view, but actually lots of people will be "grilled" forever feeling eternal pain, according to their religion. Does science point to something like this? 

I guess your Andromedan origins exiled you for some reason. My guess is either as a punishment, or as a mission to learn some real science here on Earth. Or perhaps they sent your "kind" to teach us spirit science and stuff. Can they be the "dark forces" you mention?

LOL

If you didn't get it by now, it's just because you're not able to figure out the puzzle yourself. All the answers are out there and also found within. I see two or three people here who were able to connect the dots, you others seem to be mostly oblivious to the greater reality.
It's only your static beliefsystems that prevent you from true realisation.

Ofcourse anyone who claims his god is THE god (and the others are not), doesnt understand that there is only one god. And anyone who claims only his way is the way to god, doesnt understand, that all religions (at their pure core) are describing the same path just in different ways.
Every belief of a punishing god or some place of judgement/hell is deception by the dark to take away our sovereignity. Every believe that nourishes separation or negativity in any way is not from the light and therefore strictly false. They took jesus words and twisted it, they took mohammeds word an twisted it, they even completely twisted the new age movement.
This all is the reason why spirituality and religion is in such discredit.

But the fact is, that spirituality and science go perfectly hand in hand on the quest to true understanding.
In case you didnt read it, I'll post my favourite quotes here again:

Max Planck:

"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."

 

Niels Bohr:

"A physicist is just an atom's way of looking at itself."


Werner Heisenberg:

“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”


there is nothing more to it. simply consciousness is the answer. not some mythical power outside of us. the very thing we are made of is making up everything.

"we are just the universe experiencing itself through us" Heart


I am litterally you explaining this stuff to ourselves..


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^ Nope. I quoted and replied about a post about religions. I also was talking about the "religion". The Hell concept. Also, conversely, I was talking about how people attribute "powers" to Allah. This is all about "personal interpretations", not about organized religion stuff.

I think spirituality aims at deceiving people, and it took its origins from lunatics or sinister manipulators.




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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Mind_Drive Mind_Drive wrote:

But at their core, all religions point to the same thing, and so does science..


I'm quite bored of this nonsense, but felt like I have to teach you some truth. ABSORB IT!

Science accepts it doesn't know everything and sometimes it was wrong, it can be wrong and it will probably be wrong again, and always progressivelly will try its best; while religions are closed systems, or eternal if you prefer. They claim to know lots of things. Most Muslims in my country love a saying: "Only Allah knows what will happen (the future)". I think this is a soothing point of view, but actually lots of people will be "grilled" forever feeling eternal pain, according to their religion. Does science point to something like this? 

I guess your Andromedan origins exiled you for some reason. My guess is either as a punishment, or as a mission to learn some real science here on Earth. Or perhaps they sent your "kind" to teach us spirit science and stuff. Can they be the "dark forces" you mention?
Again, I feel that you are another who is focusing on organized religion instead of spirituality. They are not the same thing. To put it simply, spirituality is an aim to grow spiritually. It doesn't have to involve religion. There are many religious people who are for from spiritualists and will probably remain that way.

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Originally posted by Mind_Drive Mind_Drive wrote:

But at their core, all religions point to the same thing, and so does science..


I'm quite bored of this nonsense, but felt like I have to teach you some truth. ABSORB IT!

Science accepts it doesn't know everything and sometimes it was wrong, it can be wrong and it will probably be wrong again, and always progressivelly will try its best; while religions are closed systems, or eternal if you prefer. They claim to know lots of things. Most Muslims in my country love a saying: "Only Allah knows what will happen (the future)". I think this is a soothing point of view, but actually lots of people will be "grilled" forever feeling eternal pain, according to their religion. Does science point to something like this? 

I guess your Andromedan origins exiled you for some reason. My guess is either as a punishment, or as a mission to learn some real science here on Earth. Or perhaps they sent your "kind" to teach us spirit science and stuff. Can they be the "dark forces" you mention?


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Pedro, believing in this form of pseudo science is just as dangerous as believing in no science at all.

Hi,

Steve ... at this point it is NOT a matter of belief at all ... to properly study, research something, you have to suspend judgements in order to find a result or some information leading to a result otherwise the "exercise" is just a pat on your back showing how clever you are and it is taken as "true" about this or that ... the "exercise" can not, and will NOT, be able to get past the conception of its design ... same thing with computer programs ... folks rarely upgrade the current one, and instead end up creating a new one ... why? Easy ... the start "engine" is not flexible enough to take it further ... !!!

The best we all can tell each other, is to request that we stop thinking that one thing is right and the other is wrong, and then proceed to "test" and "experiment" what you saw, felt, or otherwise, and then make notes on your bits and pieces. Somewhere in time, later, you will be able to compile your information into a sort of idea of what has taken place, and where your information was altered by your own ideas, and where in the information you were the "Watcher", so you could take notes correctly.

There is, no hocus pocus here. This is about learning what to do with your internal material that many of us can't even describe, and are DEATHLY AFRAID that it will hurt us more if we check into it. It has nothing to do with science any more than it does religion, but for many years, a lot of these studies were being done, and the main difference is the language that was used then and now ... and how it is perceived.

I would like to make a suggestion ... but not sure that it is a good one or not ... but a really good start would be to read WILLIAM JAMES' THE VARIETIES OF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE. It was, in many ways a book that has helped a lot of people start researching a lot of internal experiences ... with the only problem being that we're too stuck up in our own "culture" to even consider and open our minds to something else.

For me, the 60's (btw) was not about just the drugs and the music ... it was about opening the mind and learning from it ... not to simply get stoned, as almost everyone around me did ... the stupidest thing I have ever seen, and the worst side of the human this and that I have ever seen, specially in a concert ... since then, I have studied and read a lot ... and I will NEVER claim that I know anything ... but I do try and hope people see and understand ... THAT THERE IS MORE OUTSIDE OUR AWARENESS (music included as you well know!!!!!) that we continually refuse to check and learn something from ... and until those residual growth "hormones" are cleared up, the appreciation of something else, is completely stunted ... 

I'm not out to change anyone, or to make them better or worse ... I'm merely saying ... we don't know enough to even make out own comments valuable and valid ... I simply try my hardest in this respect and can only hope that people can see the honesty and caring side behind it. I don't "trump" people with the ideas, and neither do I fire them!
We must be talking past each other Pedro. You're talking to an old seeker whose read enough esoteric texts and experiences of consciousness to fill a library. I went beyond William James in high school right to the Tibetan Book Of The Dead and The Doors Of Perception.
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