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moshkito
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Hi, Yeah ... but the problem here is that "progressive music" fans, and/or "prog" fans, are not educated enough to go EVEN listen to Rachel Flowers do this Concerto and also Tarkus on her piano, so folks can see the relationship of Keith's music to classical music, and even possibly an orchestra. Between these and other works, I would always state that Keith is one of the most undervalued pianist of the 20th century ... his (likely) bad was that he lived in a time when folks wanted a new something or other, and the synthesizer took over, and he used it to great effect ... but we think it's all rock music antics, and in the end, it was an expression that really made his music more valuable ... but we don't see that ... had he played the piano instead, he would be laughed off the stage and killed sooner! Cold day in hell, that our group will EVER appreciate something truly symphonic within the progressive/prog group ... we are some of the worst fans of music, and even created a definition that has nothing to do with music ... that has not been done before, meaning that the definition is stupid and not musically intelligent like the players that created it! Typical! The audience is always the last one to get it ... we have theater's 500 years to show for it, and then a lot of music since as well! And today's modern music is no different, when some of it is just weirdness for weirdness' sakes, considered important ... because we don't know the difference!
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Oh so he was also popular in South Wales?????? LMAO Edited by Spaciousmind - November 03 2020 at 09:19 |
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wiz_d_kidd
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The Psychedelic Ensemble (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5153). Both "Tale of the Golden King" and "Sunstone" were created and recorded with an orchestra (and conductor), by a gifted individual who is, himself, an accomplished classical composer. (Note: Ignore the fact that PA has classified him as NeoProg. He is clearly symphonic). |
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Esperanto ?
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richardh
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Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Pirates
I never know why this is so overlooked as its one of my favourites by them. BTW Emerson's Piano Concerto No 1 is rather wonderful. I can't think of any rock musician who could even dream of doing something as creatively pure as this. It has a fantastic wealth of ideas and some wonderful parts. I always think of it as a very 'English' work even though Emerson was apparently inspired by Copeland!
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Here you go again. I've listened to her plenty of times, including Tarkus.
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essexboyinwales
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Don't know, but he was very popular with my parents in Essex🤣 |
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octopus-4
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Has anybody mentioned Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto n.1 yet?
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octopus-4
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Exactly what I mean |
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liked this one a lot. A nice blend of orchestra and standard instruments. Some of the suggestions I've tried has lacked a bit of the prog energy, but this album delivered. They also blend in some jazzier elements. I mostly listen to prog with vocals, but it's not something one typically find in classical music. If I should point out one thing this albums lacks, it's vocals.
The piano is one of my favorite instruments, so I don't mind a piano concerto. This one is also not entirely piano, but I find it integrates the orchestra quite well. It is perhaps more in the classical area than prog, but absolutely a good listen.
I've always liked Magnification and consider it their best work since the 70's. Not on level with their best albums, but well worth a listen. I haven't thought about it featuring an orchestra, but I will next time I hear it.
Lots of energy in this one! I like the choral vocals. The violins at times reminded me of Jean-Luc Ponty. Nicely wrapped up in 40 minutes with 13 shorter pieces. Being a fan of a musical genre which often takes to long, complex tracks (that I also love), I enjoy albums where every song is 2-5 minutes long. Short, but sweet. Thanks for the tip.
Good song.
I'm not familiar with her, so thanks for the tip. I coincidentally came across this while looking for her on Youtube:
Seems like it has potential to be quite good. |
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^Jean-Luc actually plays on Visions of the Emerald Beyond. So, good ear!
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How about Wakeman's Journey and King Arthur albums? Or Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother suite? And in defense of Yes Symphonic Live, yeah, I know they are playing music not originally intended for an orchestra, but the orchestrations blend together with the band so wonderfully... for me so much better than most of those kind of symphonic concerts, that it almost sounds as if it had been written to be played like that. And then, there's Magnification too, of course.
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I love Atom Heart Mother, but I suspect I'm in a minority. My favorite band+orchestra albums are still Caravan and The New Symphonia and Procul Harum with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra.
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Am I allowed to mention Nightwish?😎
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This interesting adaptation of Prokofiev's "Peter and the Wolf" features the English Chorale!
The Rock Peter and the Wolf is an album adapting Sergei Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf by Jack Lancaster and Robin Lumley released in 1975. As the title suggests, it features a rock arrangement of Prokofiev's music. Performers on the album include Jack Lancaster, Robin Lumley, Gary Brooker, Bill Bruford, Phil Collins, Julie Tippett, Stephane Grappelli, Jon Hiseman, Brian Eno, Alvin Lee, Gary Moore, Cozy Powell, Manfred Mann, Keith Tippett, Viv Stanshall, and the English Chorale. This album is notable for featuring the first lineup of a band that would later become Brand X.
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Sacro_Porgo
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Labeled under RPI but still pretty symphonic, how about RDM's Contaminazione? (or Contamination if, like me, you've only got your hands on the English language version).
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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This is a great album which I've enjoyed for years! However, the entirety of Brand X -- Collins, Jones, Lumley and Goodsall -- all appear earlier on Eddie Howell "Gramophone Record". Don't waste your time and money tracking down this scarcity, though; it sounds nothing like Brand X whatsoever; they're just the studio band for Howell's collection of pop songs (which are mediocre IMHO).
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iluvmarillion
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If you're talking about prog rock musicians writing music for symphonic orchestra you'll find very little of that. However if you mean prog rock with symphonic orchestra you'll find loads of music. The difference is when you have a 40 -60 piece symphony orchestra the orchestral parts are highly intricate. You need a trained classical musician to write all the parts. You often find trained classical musicians who compose film scores often collaborate with prog rock bands to write their music with orchestra. I'm not sure, but Keith Emerson might have composed all the music for his piano concerto. His mistake was calling it a piano concerto because then it gets compared to other piano concertos by the great classical music composers when it really shouldn't. It's actually a good piece of music I think. The other prog rock artist who has composed symphonic music is Tony Banks.
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