There are no 1-star albums, are there? |
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FatherChristmas
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You have a point. I think my reviews look more like long, boring history essays than love letters. Good God, did I just say history is boring? Feel like killing myself sometimes ... |
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Like many who have contributed to this thread, I prefer to rate & review albums that I like; I'm all about promoting & heralding the good stuff I hear.
For the longest time I used the 3 star rating as the standard for "albums/music/artistry that I respect because I know I could do no better." But the PA quotes for four stars using the word "excellent" and "good, but non-essential" for three stars has finally led me to return to many of my old ratings to adjust them. There are many albums that I rated as "good"/three stars that really aren't (and have thus been demoted to two stars), and many more that I rated as "excellent"/four stars that really shouldn't be considered "an excellent addition to any prog rock music collection." And many of my abundant "masterpiece" ratings have been downgraded to four stars because I really can't use the word "essential" when recommending them to others; "excellent," yes; "essential," that's really high praise. I agree with what SteveG said on page one: one star ratings are for really horrible sounding recordings (most of which occur in the old bootleg world)--or for truly low-achieving infantile music. |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Same here |
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Ian
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SteveG
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Well, to be honest, as someone who spent many years doing A&R for record companies like EMI, l had to be critical of what some artists were presening to the company.I didn't like hurting poeple's feeling but sometimes songs and/or lyrics just didn't work. The thing is if these poeple could do better, you just had to tell them. And usually they did.I feel same about reviews. It's not about being a fan to me.
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So, you're the reason we have RIO. |
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Edited by SteveG - October 26 2020 at 06:41 |
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Manuel
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If one star means I don't like it, there are many of them. However, the fact I don't like them doesn't mean they're not good, they just don't appeal to my taste. As an example, most prog metal falls into this category.
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I would rate (and have rated) only albums from artists I know and like, genres I enjoy.
I would never rate poorly an artist that is not my thing, that i would never listen to anyway.
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I've only had ~30 reviews or so, but awarded a few 1 star ratings without stressing about it too much. Generally, I'd rather read (and trust) a reviewer who is hesitant to give out 5 stars instead of 1's. These guys are usually very honest and thoughtful. The mere fact that I LIKE something isn't NEARLY enough to award the highest rating, in my book. Also, 1 star ratings shouldn't be reserved only for bootleg/garage/"sonic experiment gone wrong" music. Perfectly produced & promoted also DESERVE 1 star time and time again - it boils down to being dull, unoriginal, cheap, dishonest etc. And there is plenty of that in Prog. By the way, cross-genres comparisons (i.e. symphonic is 4-5 stars always, rap is 1 full stop) is a bit silly. |
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Yes, I would. I thought it's what I just meant. DT - The Astonishing is a good example.
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Edited by SteveG - October 27 2020 at 06:35 |
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^Well said. It should be a reviewers obligation to warn others about the quality of the release. No reviewer should only review what they like.
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That I would do.
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I sometimes try an album, find it absolutely not in my taste, but I don't give it a poor rating. It feels a bit unfair for me to rate albums with music styles that I don't like. The album may be very well received by fans of that particular genre, so I'd rather not rate it at all. That may give it a more accurate average rating than if I gave it 1 star.
Albums I would give 1-2 stars are those somewhat within my musical taste, but that is straight out bad or there's something about it that turns me off.
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I'm working on one, ask Mosh. ;-)
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Since 2006 I've given few 1-stars. Usually is when artists that I like release a stinker. Keeping people away from those stinkers helps the artists, too. Imagine a guy who approaches Camel for the first time and buys The Single Factor. He will surely miss a masterpiece like Moonmadness. Imagine that you have read something about a Greek keyboardist and his collaborations with Jon Anderson...then you listen to Suffocation from See You Later. Would you buy anything else from Vangelis? 1 star ratings may be useful.
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Some of the songs weren't that bad and were even catchy but the problem was with Mike's singing which was absolutely wretched. His singing makes Tony Banks' singing sound like Phil Collins. Speaking of Tony Banks his fugitive album is one I thought was pretty bad when I first heard it but it sort of grew on me(warts and all). Some albums aren't really so much bad as they are just downright boring.
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If you buy something, and that purchase makes you mad: You simply have the urge to express your pain. I'm not talking about albums and books and such stuff here, but things that are malfunctioning or lacking decent quality. You want to have the revenge and warn people not to buy that product.
If you listen to something, and that disappoints you: You generally ignore it. But if you listen to some awesome stuff, you want others to listen to that too. Some people do it out of their goodness, some want their "idolized/iconized" album to get more attention, which would indirectly satisfy their ego and reassure that they have good taste/understanding in music. This is why "complaints" are more abundant than "compliments" in the marketing sphere, about the products' physical or functional aspects; while it is almost the contrary regarding the cultural productions that enrich and reflect people's "tastes" and/or apprehension. |
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