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Greenmist 
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 Topic: SantanaPosted: September 26 2020 at 14:02 |
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Same deal as with the thread i made today on The Pentangle, gave them a listen recently after looking through my mothers old vinyl lp's today. But i already knew of them, but just never checked out any of their albums before. Well i recently tried their Abraxas album, and for the most part, not really my cup of tea to be honest, the only song that stood out to me on that album was I Hope Your Feeling Better.
Its gonna sound weird me saying this, but that song sounds like a typical stoners rock song lol. It sounds like the sought of song Orange Goblin would do. I know that stoners rock takes influence from 70s style rock, which was the decade of course that album was made in. I also know that Santana are also listed on here under Jazz/Rock Fusion.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 14:31 |
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I came here expecting a Santana Appreciation thread, but I was wrong.
 I believe "Abraxas" is Santana's best album, so if you don't like that album, then you probably won't like any other Santana albums either.  By the way, I've never heard any Santana songs that sound like Stoner Rock.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 15:36 |
I prefer Santana III, but short-changing Abraxas would be silly. As far as "stoner rock" I would suggest that in the first half of the 70s, every rock band could be considered stoner music, but that's only because the majority of the audience was impaired.  As for Santana III, some absolutely crazy stuff going on in that album.... |
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 16:14 |
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Speaking of Santana III (which I, too, agree is better than Abraxas), one time I was headed up the freeway to my favorite record shop, when KCRW started playing THIS. The effect was sublime! I was in Heaven.
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 16:23 |
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Love the first 4 Santana lp's ....but even many of the later ones are good also.
Don't see the stoner rock thing either but as Elf said many were impaired back in the day when listening to the old bands. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 17:20 |
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Abaxas is really great. Everyone here knows they didn't write Black Magic Woman right?
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 17:37 |
Yes, I'm pretty sure most everyone knows that. At least the old farts such as myself. I actually love the Fleetwood Mac version.
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 17:56 |
Nor "Oye Como Va."
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 17:58 |
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Santana....stoner rock???
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 18:42 |
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Just sounds like someone who wasn't there then (which the opening statement essentially said). When Santana came out, music wasn't quite so sliced into so many sub-genres as it is now, the live shows were very varied, unlike a little later on, which started targeting more specific audiences (primarily in the interest of the promoter making more money). A lot of people had varied music collections as well, after a while, radio stations also became more and more focused on one type of music over another. A heavy emphasis on young males with expendable income, which led to a profusion of heavy metal (at least in Los Angeles, where many record deals were made). At least, that was my perspective from my location during the years of transition.
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 19:19 |
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My relationship with Santana is forever destroyed by having had a music teacher who always had us play Black Magic Woman or Evil Ways... Listening to it now, I don't think I can say anything bad about it, but it doesn't really appeal to me. I do have their first two LP's on vinyl though, but I don't listen to them very often.
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Posted: September 26 2020 at 19:40 |
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Caravanserai is godlike. Loved that one for decades. I only recently got III though - don’t know why I waited so long. It pretty much rules too.
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Posted: September 27 2020 at 00:26 |
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Abraxis and his 70's output are his best, IMHO. Very glad he was one of the few from that era that was able to transition to a successful major music career, but his radio stuff from the 90's on is nothing of his former glory IMHO!
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Posted: September 27 2020 at 02:04 |
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Try the album Moonflower. That is the one that resonates with me and is easily the most enjoyable and accessible of their albums without being too much of a compromise. I don't listen to a lot of the earlier stuff. Santana was a great festival band in the early seventies and no festival was complete without them on the bill.
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Posted: September 27 2020 at 02:57 |
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I'd like to recommend s/t debut from 1969, as my favourite record by Santana.
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Posted: September 27 2020 at 03:15 |
I saw them play an outdoor festival in the South of France in the early 80s. Suffice to say there was a certain fragrance in the air.
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Posted: September 27 2020 at 04:26 |
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Posted: September 27 2020 at 10:15 |
The Santana III – Caravanserai – Welcome trifecta is primo Santana. I love all the albums up through Milagro, but they never topped those.
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Posted: September 27 2020 at 12:18 |
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I rate Caravanserai very highly . Santana were getting heavily in to John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders at the time. Certainly the influence of Pharoah's album 'Thembi' shows through 'Caravanserai'. Yes enjoy III as well.
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