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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2020 at 07:20
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

 
Passion: Peter Gabriel Music from the move The Last Temptation of Christ
Album released in 1989

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With:
- Baaba Maal / vocals (5)
- Youssou N'Dour / vocals (7,15)
- Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan / vocals-qawwali style (15)
- Julian Wilkins / vocals-choir boy (15)
- Antranik Askarian / Armenian doudouk (1)
- Vatche Housepian / Armenian doudouk (1)
- Kudsi Erguner / ney (11,17)
- Jon Hassell / trumpet (15)
- Robin Canter / oboe (12) , cor Anglais (12,16)
- The Musicians of the Nile / arghul (17)
- Lakshmir Shankar / double violin (1,3,5,7,8,10), vocals (10)
- Mahmoud Tabrizi Zadeh / kemenché (6,8,13,14)
- Manny Elias / surdo & octobans (1)
- Hossam Ramzy / tabla (1,8,11,13,19), tambourine, triangle, finger cymbals, dufs
- Nathan East / bass (8,20)
- Fatala / percussion (5,7), African percussion (19)
- Manu Katche / percussion (13)
- Djalma Correa / Brazilian percussion (15)
- Massamba Diop / talking drum (3,5)
- Said Mohammad Aly / percussion (19)
- Mustafa Abdel Aziz / arghul (3,5,20), percussion (19)
- Doudou N'Daiye Rose / percussion (7)


When that album came out, of what I still think it a great film, the first thing I did was go after the names listed here ... and making sure I did not look at all the others, who had already been there.

Some of the folks listed, were already widely known in their circles, although their inclusion here, was a bit ... a nice gesture ... but I don't think it was for their musicality. As an example, I had a complete Jon Hassell by that time, as I had the listing of folks that were released through Eno's workshop.

But "world music" was already there, and I had already included about 20 or 30 Hindu folks in my listing 10 years before PG woke up from his slumber! It had started for me, when Ravi Shankar all of a sudden is plying with everyone in America, regardless of what kind of music it was ... and his family/school is HUGE!

The other grouping is the German link in "krautrock" via Agitation Free and others, and a few of the folks that were involved in it that were from other places ... something that we were not used to before ... but even though AF is mostly electronic, it has threads of world music as inspiration and side effects which for me kinda ruined things ... I wanted to hear more of it. There were others ... and various bands that had the mix of unusual instruments and material from elsewhere ... a search from bands from India will also get you a huge listing ... although I am not sure that a lot of it will be listed here.

Another example ... Sheila Chandra ... been listening to her for almost 40 years, and following the musicians around her ... 

It all depends on how open you are to different material ... this stuff has been there for many years ... but as an article in a place of music, it all seems like new, different music, when in fact it is older than the stuff that we listen to ... the hybrid mixes in Brazil, Argentina and Chile ... are insanely good, but no one looks at them as "world music"!

AWESOME albums/suggestions, Steve! I love the Passion sources, soundtrack and film.

I concur with Pedro here: way before John Coltrane, The Beatles, Agitation Free, John McLaughlin, or Peter Gabriel and Micky Hart were coopting sounds, styles, ideas, and artists from outside the borders of their own countries there has been music. I remember feeling quite embarrassed for Peter Gabriel when I bought his first W.O.M.A.D. album to help raise money for his new "annual" music festival: many of the songs were so feebly influenced or representative of the music (and dancing) of the "world." I cringe to think of all of the music we're ignorant to from the traditions and explorations of the 7 billion people who aren't from the U.S. or U.K.--as well as to the number of bands that water down their own traditional music thanks to the forms and marketing constructs dictated by the Westernization of the world. Still, I am grateful to know the musics of bands like Los Jaivas and Antônio Carlos Jobim, Bob Marley and Reuben Blades, Fela Kuti and King Sunny Adé, Samite, Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn, Adam Planck, Shakti, Sheila Chandra, Usted Ali Akbar Khan, OOIOO, Anda Union, Olga Kharitidi, Glen Velez and R. Carlos Nakai, Huong Thanh and so many others who have been accepted and promoted in my native US.  

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KITARO Live - An Enchanted Evening (1995)
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Huun-Huur-Tu, "Spirits of Tuva". I was inspired to buy this after reading Richard Feinman's "Tuva or Bust!" book. Great read, btw.


 

I saw a Tuvan singing group at the Richmond Folk Festival last year. It was great. Then a month later saw the Hu (Mongolian folk metal). They incorporate throat singing in their music.

I recommend the documentary Ghengis Blues, about a blind blues artist who teaches himself to sing in that style.

Following up, here's the blues artist Paul Pena off the soundtrack (trivia: he was the writer of "Jet Airliner" made popular by the Steve Miller Band), mixing his blues with the throat singing.

 

And toss in a clip from the Hu:

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Russian lullaby, traditional.


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A traditional song from Serbia.


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David Byrne -"Bed" (1987)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2020 at 02:37
I missed this thread first time round... Dissidenten have to be present! They do such stuff since the mid-seventies; actually they are something of an Embryo spin-off, but regularly active for 45 years now.
...and big fun 3 Mustaphas 3 (with Camel's Colin Bass):
 
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Ravi Shankar's daughter Anoushka is also stunningly good.

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I have never liked the term 'world music', because it puts into one box many different kinds of music that have absolutely nothing in common. Also, it very much reflects a West-centric kind of viewpoint. For the same reason I also feel uncomfortable about the term 'ethno'.

Besides, all the music in the world is world music.


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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Great, great, great! Didier Malherbe's work outside Gong is far too little known!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2020 at 14:35
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

I have never liked the term 'world music', because it puts into one box many different kinds of music that have absolutely nothing in common. Also, it very much reflects a West-centric kind of viewpoint. For the same reason I also feel uncomfortable about the term 'ethno'.

Besides, all the music in the world is world music.

To be honest, I had the same thought, but then decided to concentrate on the great music that comes under this (mis-)label.
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A traditional Gypsy song (a scene from "Time of the Gypsies" the movie by Emir Kusturica, 1988)


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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Gypsy trumpet music (live at the Guca world music festival, Serbia, 2009)


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Orthodox Celts - "Rocky Road to Dublin" (live at NS Koncert Godine, Serbia, 2015)


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