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    Posted: September 09 2020 at 11:13
Clearly not their best work (Yes, in case you don't know). But I quite like it's quirkiness.

But, it's not the new age lyrics about Boy Child Solomon or occupants of interplanetary craft, or the seventh age.

It's not Rick Wakeman doing the only lick he knows over Yes attempting a punk anthem (those classical trills)

It's not eco awareness.

It's not even the toffee apples

It's that someone didn't tell Chris that using Bootsy's mutron/wah wah bass effect was completely over the top. Honestly, almost every track is completely overpowered by his playing. :D

Don't get me wrong, it is all brilliant, but that tone on Future Times is just completely crazy. No wonder they were unproducable at that point (to quote Rick).

This is a far more daring album than any old punk bollocks that got released at the time
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A huge fan of "Tormato" here. My favourite song is "On the Silent Wings of Freedom", but I love the other songs as well. My second fave is "Arriving UFO". As a big fan of UFO reports, sometimes while listening to that song, I catch myself dreaming that a music like Yes' "Arriving UFO" plays in flying saucers.

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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

A huge fan of "Tormato" here. My favourite song is "On the Silent Wings of Freedom", but I love the other songs as well. My second fave is "Arriving UFO". As a big fan of UFO reports, sometimes while listening to that song, I catch myself dreaming that a music like Yes' "Arriving UFO" plays in flying saucers.

I do not understand why you post Yes videos, do you think people don't know 70s Yes? 

Can you please slow down with the videos, especially obvious, famous bands like Yes. 


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I’ve always had a deep fondness for Tormato, and it is a shame that this was the last album from that particular lineup for many a year.

Unlike a lot of others, I rather love Circus of Heaven, and the Future Times opening suite still gives me a thrill of pleasure to listen to 41 years after the event.
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I enjoy it a lot. But it suffers in comparison

I think they stuggled to find an identity
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I played tormato for the first time in years this morning whilst running on the treadmill. It is a perfectly fine album, not as good as its predecessor GFTO but it has a fine song in silent wings of freedom. Arriving UFO, madrigal and release, release are good too. I feel this album gets slated because of the final 30 seconds or so to circus of heaven.
So it's not CTTTE but it does get a bum rap for reasons I find difficult to understand.
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I like it.
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I like it too. Arriving UFO was ahead of it's time. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2020 at 23:42
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I like it too. Arriving UFO was ahead of it's time. 

it's time?! for what? LOL
I've never understood people appreciating Arriving UFO, Madrigal and Circus of Heaven. For me these are the worst songs Yes did in the 70s. Confused


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I never took to this album. There's some awful, and truly substandard music on it, certainly compared to its predecessor and successor.

I took the Circus of Heaven to be a joke track, no?
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I like it too. Arriving UFO was ahead of it's time. 

it's time?! for what? LOL
I've never understood people appreciating Arriving UFO, Madrigal and Circus of Heaven. For me these are the worst songs Yes did in the 70s. Confused
Actually I think it was right on the times. the age of Aquarius vibe/close encounters etc. I don't think you could get away with that now or before.
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Arriving UFO is meh but Madrigal is one of the best 70s Yes songs IMHO.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I like it too. Arriving UFO was ahead of its time. 

I've never understood people appreciating Arriving UFO, Madrigal and Circus of Heaven. For me these are the worst songs Yes did in the 70s. Confused
 

actually, I prefer the flipside as opposed to the A-side, where only Whales is OK, but the songwriting was already quite poor on GFTO (stooooopid title again) if you take Awaken out.
As for the artwork, it's probably of one Hypgnosis' worst ideas and concept ever. 

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I never took to this album. There's some awful, and truly substandard music on it, certainly compared to its predecessor and successor.

I took the Circus of Heaven to be a joke track, no?
 

more than ther poor songwriting, the production of those two albums (GFTO as well) is pretty annoying, especially in ther high-end spectrum. Jon's voice is often painful to the eardum, and Howe's guitar parts and tones are really grating my feathers the wrong way.


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I have a sealed copy of it right here on my shelf! Snagged in over a month ago and actually forgot I had it. Thanks for the reminder; I'll play it today!

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I like it too. Arriving UFO was ahead of it's time

I agree. Arriving UFO is just so incredibly odd, and interesting to listen to. 
Like or hate the song, people have to at least admit that it is unique and doesn't really sound like anything else. I personally think that's a good thing, but I know others will disagree. 

So fair enough, but I still get a kick out of listening to it. It's a song you  never get bored of.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I’ve always had a deep fondness for Tormato, and it is a shame that this was the last album from that particular lineup for many a year.

Unlike a lot of others, I rather love Circus of Heaven, and the Future Times opening suite still gives me a thrill of pleasure to listen to 41 years after the event.



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I found that many of the songs from Tormato were much improved in concert!

I rather hated "Don't Kill the Whale" when I first heard it on the LP, but the live performance has great energy. Has anyone else had this experience? 

Here, dig it! 




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It depends how much of a fan you are of drumming. White is having a whale of a time (see what I did there Smile) and it might be my favourite album for his playing. On The Silent Wings of Freedom is only any good because of the bass drum work and recalls that other famous link up track Ann Of Cleeves from Rick's Six Wives album. Just wonderfull. But also the way Alan hits the snare with so much on venom on Arriving UFO and rides the snare brilliantly on Future Times. Release Release is also superb. 
Admittedly Howe is mostly pointless on this album and Rick is in and out. Squire is okay though and Anderson is off on his usual cosmic travels. Its a messy album but it's not bad at all. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2020 at 12:46
It's not a bad album, it's just not a great album.

It's worth a listen every now and again, and fits comfortably into the Yes mythology, but I'd much rather play Going for the One or Drama.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A Crimson Mellotron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2020 at 13:27
Not terrible but not so good either. I would still take 'Tormato' over anything Yes put out in the 80s and 90s (excluding, of course, the amazing 'Drama' and 'Keystudio' because the tracks were written in the 90s)
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