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Hercules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
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It was a history I was alive through and very much part of. So, unlike you, I know EXACTLY what happened and when. How old are you, by the way?
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essexboyinwales ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 27 2015 Location: Bridgend Status: Offline Points: 5295 |
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Fun thread. Bringing the best out in everyone....
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Spaciousmind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 07 2020 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 724 |
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You know what is funny is that I can't exactly remember us calling it Progressive Rock... i think we were just fans of Progressive music... anything that was different to the norm. And yes Black Sabbath was also part of the must have collection. Wow adding Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath does give the big 6 question a totally different outlook :).... just missing Tommy from the Who... regards. Rainbow only took shape after Richie Blackmore left DP.
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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I must admit, Boboulo's views seem a bit delusional to me. Perhaps history of prog is different where he comes from.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13320 |
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Again, you obviously weren't there, and obviously have no clue what you are talking about. ELP, Jethro Tull and Yes had their greatest selling albums and their highest points on the charts from 1971-1975 -- their greatest years of popularity in the 70s, not 75-77. This is not arguable. This is unequivocal. As far as Black Sabbath, you clearly are out of your league here, junior. Everyone was listening to Paranoid, Master of Reality and Vol. 4 right along with Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Fragile, CTTE, Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery. They were also listening to Deep Purple because Rainbow wasn't a band yet. You are wrong. Everyone else is right. And you are Svetonio about to banned again as eventually as you were the last ten times. |
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Boboulo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 21 2020 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 676 |
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13833 |
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The alternate history, you utterly mad Loon, is entirely of your own making.
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Boboulo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 21 2020 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 676 |
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Hercules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
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Again - absolute bo**ocks. Pink Floyd were ALWAYS considered to be a seminal prog rock band.
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Hercules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
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Codswallop. I was alive then and prog was most popular from 1971 to 1975. It waned somewhat from 1975 to 1977 (whilst still being popular) but then fell off a cliff until 1983, when Marillion and a few other bands rejuvenated the genre to some extent.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18007 |
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Definition of "rantings of a raving musical lunatic....." God here we go again with the jazz rock, prog, proggy, psychedelia labels that rule your posts for the past 10yrs. It's like a scab that will never heal..... I don't think you have a clue what you mean anymore......sad
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21504 |
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Fantastic! Accusing others of what you do every day, I wonder why you keep getting thrown off so many sites?
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Ian
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9168 |
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yep, much more popular yet still hardly household names. Tull was big in UK too, maybe not quite as big. KC and Genesis were also very big in UK even in the early days.
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Boboulo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 21 2020 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 676 |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21504 |
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In your opinion. That's all it is, an opinion, like arseholes we all have one. You're opinion is no more valuable than anyone elses and can be discounted whenever you apply garbage logic to match up with your personal tastes.
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Ian
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Boboulo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 21 2020 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 676 |
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Applying your own twisted logic, we can discount Jethro Tull as they have many more Blues Rock & Folk Rock albums than Prog. Yes have disbanded so many times its hard to keep track so they're out. Genesis are much more popular as a pop band and have't released a prog album since '78 so cut them. Guess our Big 6 is .... Emerson Lake and Palmer.
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Ian
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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This old chestnut..again..
The biggest selling 6 bands vs your favourite 6 bands?? Biggest selling in no order: Floyd Genesis Yes ELP Jethro Tull Rush MY big six: Genesis Rush Floyd King Crimson Yes VDGG |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Boboulo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 21 2020 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 676 |
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And as I already told you on another thread, topics like this are for fun.
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Spaciousmind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 07 2020 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 724 |
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Growing up with progressive rock exactly in that period in England, I can tell you for sure that Genesis picked up the banner when others where waning when Lamb Goes out from Broadway came out and became a success in the USA, which was popular and sold well both in the UK and USA. Unfortunately that is when they also switched to more commercial music. Hence it is a struggle for me to think of them as a big 6 as they came on board a little too late. Their truly classic progressive albums were all under Peter Gabriel of which only Selling England by the Pound made a ripple in the charts prior to Broadway. Although my personal favorites will always be Trespass, Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot.
We pretty much dropped Genesis shortly after Broadway in my circle of friends who enjoyed progressive music, because they became too Commercial. Same really happened with ELP who moved to larger and larger stadiums to play and never really evolved from what they already had in albums by 1973. That's also true with Yes who after Tales and Relayer never really brought out much after that, that you hadn't already heard from them before. Pink Floyd survived and continued to have success because of adapting commercially as well and had hits such as Brick in the Wall. At that time 1972-1974 I could never get to see Yes, Pink Floyd or ELP they were just too big and played in bigger venues that I could not afford the money to go to. But I never had trouble seeing Camel, Gentle Giant, Greenslade, Budgie, Man, Gong, Magma, Hatfield in the North, Refugee etc. as these played in the smaller venues that held about 2-5k people. Also these mentioned bands were much more narrow in taste. From what I can remember back then, it was not often that someone who liked to listen to Camel would also say that he enjoyed Budgie for example as they were on different ends of the spectrum. Someone who listened to Refugee was looking for more Yes or ELP. etc. Also at that time I don't think I met a progressive rock fan who also did not have a Led Zeppelin II, III or IV in their collection but nowadays I don't see them even listed as even mildly progressive. Same with Deep Purple. Both of these were part of a must have collection back then, as well as Focus or even Uriah Heep because of their Salisbury and Demons and Wizards albums. Jethro Tull's Aqualung and Thick as Brick were must have albums as well. For soft prog, everyone also had their Moody Blues and Barclay James Harvest as well. For staying power and influencing the world, I must say especially reading the topics in this forum that a lot of what would have been the lesser bands or acquired taste bands do seem to have influenced a much larger world audience and therefore might well be a completely different big 6. If this question were asked in 1972/73 then I also think that the argument would have been for including Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple into the conversation as both were mega back then. Cheers to ya'all Nick |
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