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So the fans from 69 to 74 were older than those from 75 to 77? Dear god!!!
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for ELP they were big but aside from King Crimson they were the only major prog band who didn't have any platinum albums(all of their 70's albums went gold but that's it). 
King Crimson have disbanded in 1974. Thus, they have been the past already in 1976.
you could argue that things started to go downhill after 1974 anyway.
Actually, "Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977 when the younger generation of fans arrived.

 
Actually, no, prog was not the most popular in 1975-1977. I don't know what turnip truck you fell off of, but you are unequivocally wrong. 

Thick as a Brick and A Passion Play went to #1 in the US in 1972 and 1973 (a year prior, in 1971, Aqualung was top ten in both the U.S. and the UK, Living in the Past was also top ten in '72, and in '74 War Child went to #2 in the States). Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer were all top ten albums in 71, 72, 73 and 74. Tarkus and Trilogy were top ten in both the U.S. and the UK in 1971 and '72 (with Brain Salad Surgery falling just outside the top ten at #11 in '73).  Both Dark Side of the Moon (1973) and Wish You Were Here (1975) were #1 albums -- and neither were "psychedelic".  They were prog. 

So, four of the alleged "Top Six" had their greatest selling albums between 1971 and 1975, not thereafter. Hilariously, Genesis did not have a top ten album in the states until ABACAB.


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

So the fans from 69 to 74 were older than those from 75 to 77? Dear god!!!
Unlike the generation that has started listening to rock music in the 60's, for the younger generation that grew up in the mid-70's, "Symphonic rock" (i.e. "Prog Rock", as people call it now), along with "Hard Rock", was an ultimate genre.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for ELP they were big but aside from King Crimson they were the only major prog band who didn't have any platinum albums(all of their 70's albums went gold but that's it). 
King Crimson have disbanded in 1974. Thus, they have been the past already in 1976.
you could argue that things started to go downhill after 1974 anyway.
Actually, "Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977 when the younger generation of fans arrived.

 
Actually, no, prog was not the most popular in 1975-1977. I don't know what turnip truck you fell off of, but you are unequivocally wrong. 

Thick as a Brick and A Passion Play went to #1 in the US in 1972 and 1973 (a year prior, in 1971, Aqualung was top ten in both the U.S. and the UK, Living in the Past was also top ten in '72, and in '74 War Child went to #2 in the States). Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer were all top ten albums in 71, 72, 73 and 74. Tarkus and Trilogy were top ten in both the U.S. and the UK in 1971 and '72 (with Brain Salad Surgery falling just outside the top ten at #11 in '73).  Both Dark Side of the Moon (1973) and Wish You Were Here (1975) were #1 albums -- and neither were "psychedelic".  They were prog. 

So, four of the alleged "Top Six" had their greatest selling albums between 1971 and 1975, not thereafter. Hilariously, Genesis did not have a top ten album in the states until ABACAB.


Presentation of figures is unnecessary 'cause I wasn't claiming that "Symphonic rock" wasn’t popular in the first half of the 70's. I just mentioned the notorious fact that with the younger generation of kids, who were 13-14 yrs old in the mid-70's, the genre had expanded its army of fans. And naturally, that younger generation cared slightly less about "prog rock" bands that had disbanded in the first half of the decade, like e.g. King Crimson and Family.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for ELP they were big but aside from King Crimson they were the only major prog band who didn't have any platinum albums(all of their 70's albums went gold but that's it). 
King Crimson have disbanded in 1974. Thus, they have been the past already in 1976.
you could argue that things started to go downhill after 1974 anyway.
Actually, "Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977 when the younger generation of fans arrived.

 
Actually, no, prog was not the most popular in 1975-1977. I don't know what turnip truck you fell off of, but you are unequivocally wrong. 

Thick as a Brick and A Passion Play went to #1 in the US in 1972 and 1973 (a year prior, in 1971, Aqualung was top ten in both the U.S. and the UK, Living in the Past was also top ten in '72, and in '74 War Child went to #2 in the States). Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer were all top ten albums in 71, 72, 73 and 74. Tarkus and Trilogy were top ten in both the U.S. and the UK in 1971 and '72 (with Brain Salad Surgery falling just outside the top ten at #11 in '73).  Both Dark Side of the Moon (1973) and Wish You Were Here (1975) were #1 albums -- and neither were "psychedelic".  They were prog. 

So, four of the alleged "Top Six" had their greatest selling albums between 1971 and 1975, not thereafter. Hilariously, Genesis did not have a top ten album in the states until ABACAB.


Presentation of figures is unnecessary 'cause I wasn't claiming that "Symphonic rock" wasn’t popular in the first half of the 70's. I just mentioned the notorious fact that with the younger generation of kids, who were 13-14 yrs old in the mid-70's, the genre had expanded its army of fans. And naturally, that younger generation cared slightly less about "prog rock" bands that had disbanded in the first half of the decade, like e.g. King Crimson and Family.

No, what you stated was '"Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977'. Your words. It was not. Throwing in asinine qualifiers like "symphonic rock" does not mean a thing, because we are talking prog as a an overall qualification, not parsing. In fact, from a popularity of prog standpoint, the height was 1973, when three different prog albums went to #1: The Moody Blues' Seventh Sojourn, Jethro Tull's A Passion Play, and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. No other year had that many prog albums reach the top. 


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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for ELP they were big but aside from King Crimson they were the only major prog band who didn't have any platinum albums(all of their 70's albums went gold but that's it). 
King Crimson have disbanded in 1974. Thus, they have been the past already in 1976.
you could argue that things started to go downhill after 1974 anyway.
Actually, "Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977 when the younger generation of fans arrived.

 
Actually, no, prog was not the most popular in 1975-1977. I don't know what turnip truck you fell off of, but you are unequivocally wrong. 

Thick as a Brick and A Passion Play went to #1 in the US in 1972 and 1973 (a year prior, in 1971, Aqualung was top ten in both the U.S. and the UK, Living in the Past was also top ten in '72, and in '74 War Child went to #2 in the States). Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer were all top ten albums in 71, 72, 73 and 74. Tarkus and Trilogy were top ten in both the U.S. and the UK in 1971 and '72 (with Brain Salad Surgery falling just outside the top ten at #11 in '73).  Both Dark Side of the Moon (1973) and Wish You Were Here (1975) were #1 albums -- and neither were "psychedelic".  They were prog. 

So, four of the alleged "Top Six" had their greatest selling albums between 1971 and 1975, not thereafter. Hilariously, Genesis did not have a top ten album in the states until ABACAB.


Presentation of figures is unnecessary 'cause I wasn't claiming that "Symphonic rock" wasn’t popular in the first half of the 70's. I just mentioned the notorious fact that with the younger generation of kids, who were 13-14 yrs old in the mid-70's, the genre had expanded its army of fans. And naturally, that younger generation cared slightly less about "prog rock" bands that had disbanded in the first half of the decade, like e.g. King Crimson and Family.

No, what you stated was '"Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977'. Your words. It was not. Throwing in asinine qualifiers like "symphonic rock" does not mean a thing, because we are talking prog as a an overall qualification, not parsing. In fact, from a popularity of prog standpoint, the height was 1973, when three different prog albums went to #1: The Moody Blues' Seventh Sojourn, Jethro Tull's A Passion Play, and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. No other year had that many prog albums reach the top. 
I'm afraid that your presentation of figures didn't impress me. The popularity of a genre always was something more than just numbers of records sold. So I repeat once again: in its history, "Symphonic rock" was the most popular when two generations of its fans met, i.e. in the mid-Seventies.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Actually, "Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977 when the younger generation of fans arrived.
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Actually, no, prog was not the most popular in 1975-1977. I don't know what turnip truck you fell off of, but you are unequivocally wrong. 

Thick as a Brick and A Passion Play went to #1 in the US in 1972 and 1973 (a year prior, in 1971, Aqualung was top ten in both the U.S. and the UK, Living in the Past was also top ten in '72, and in '74 War Child went to #2 in the States). Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer were all top ten albums in 71, 72, 73 and 74. Tarkus and Trilogy were top ten in both the U.S. and the UK in 1971 and '72 (with Brain Salad Surgery falling just outside the top ten at #11 in '73).  Both Dark Side of the Moon (1973) and Wish You Were Here (1975) were #1 albums -- and neither were "psychedelic".  They were prog. 

So, four of the alleged "Top Six" had their greatest selling albums between 1971 and 1975, not thereafter. Hilariously, Genesis did not have a top ten album in the states until ABACAB.
 
Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Presentation of figures is unnecessary 'cause I wasn't claiming that "Symphonic rock" wasn’t popular in the first half of the 70's. I just mentioned the notorious fact that with the younger generation of kids, who were 13-14 yrs old in the mid-70's, the genre had expanded its army of fans. And naturally, that younger generation cared slightly less about "prog rock" bands that had disbanded in the first half of the decade, like e.g. King Crimson and Family.
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

No, what you stated was '"Prog" was the most popular in 1975-1977'. Your words. It was not. Throwing in asinine qualifiers like "symphonic rock" does not mean a thing, because we are talking prog as a an overall qualification, not parsing. In fact, from a popularity of prog standpoint, the height was 1973, when three different prog albums went to #1: The Moody Blues' Seventh Sojourn, Jethro Tull's A Passion Play, and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. No other year had that many prog albums reach the top.
 
Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

I'm afraid that your presentation of figures didn't impress me. The popularity of a genre always was something more than just numbers of records sold. So I repeat once again: in its history, "Symphonic rock" was the most popular when two generations of its fans met, i.e. in the mid-Seventies.
The word "popularity" must mean something different in Serbia. A genre reaches its height in "popularity" when it sells the most albums, hence it is "popular". For instance, Psychedelia was most popular from 1966 to 1969, and albums that were psychedelic tended to end up in the top ten in sales, and every band was on the bandwagon, from The Beatles to the Stones to the Doors and Hendrix; that was no longer the case by 1970, and the genre petered out. The same can be said of punk when it quickly died out and was sanitized into New Wave.

Prog's greatest popularity was from 1971 to 1975, when more prog albums were purchased by more people than at any other time in music history. It is a fact, and numbers can back it up.

Again, your diversion into Symphonic Rock babble doesn't mean a hill of beans.


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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

For instance, Psychedelia was most popular from 1966 to 1969, and albums that were psychedelic tended to end up in the top ten in sales, and every band was on the bandwagon, from The Beatles to the Stones to the Doors and Hendrix; that was no longer the case by 1970, and the genre petered out.
In fact, Psychedelic rock has never been as globally popular as with Pink Floyd's records "The Dark Side of the Moon" (1973), Wish You Were Here (1975) and Animals (1977) when their songs got active rotation on fm radio and, of course, due to their gigs at the time that were mind-blowing and hence about which the youth press wrote extensively.
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Originally posted by questionsneverknown questionsneverknown wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Interesting. When I see the Big Six mentioned I have no doubt about what people mean. ELP, KC, PF, Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, in no particular order. I'm not saying that's my choice (although I'm by and large fine with it, even if there's only one overlap with my personal Big Five), and neither am I saying it should be like this, but I'm pretty sure that's the one and only Big Six for those in the know. (If you don't want it to be these by the way, there is no reason to make it six, or to fix any number at all.) 


That's my understanding too. When I hear the Big Six, those are the six I assume people mean. Again, not a matter of personal preferences, I've just assumed those are the six we mean.


Same with me. I always thought Genesis, Pink Floyd, JT, KC, ELP, and Yes were THE Big Six by default.

My personal preference for MY Big Six would be:

Rush
Camel
Genesis
Emerson Lake & Palmer
Pink Floyd
Yes

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Eloy
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King Crimson
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP
Eloy
Yes
King Crimson
PFM
Kansas

I like the way you think. I'd be willing to go with that sextet, only I'd add Tangerine Dream (they spawned countless knockoffs, along with former member Klaus Schulze) in lieu of PFM.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

For instance, Psychedelia was most popular from 1966 to 1969, and albums that were psychedelic tended to end up in the top ten in sales, and every band was on the bandwagon, from The Beatles to the Stones to the Doors and Hendrix; that was no longer the case by 1970, and the genre petered out.
In fact, Psychedelic rock has never been as globally popular as with Pink Floyd's records "The Dark Side of the Moon" (1973), Wish You Were Here (1975) and Animals (1977) when their songs got active rotation on fm radio and, of course, due to their gigs at the time that were mind-blowing and hence about which the youth press wrote extensively.
Dark Side of the Moon, WYWH and Animals are not psychedelic albums, Svetonio. We didn't refer to them as psychedelic when they were released, and neither did reviewers. 

Psychedelia was passe by then and no one referred to music as such by the mid-70s (not if you wanted to sell albums). In fact, none of those albums bore any of the traits The Pink Floyd had when they released psychedelic albums like Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Saucerful of Secrets, More or Ummagumma.

But just to show you that you have no idea what you are talking about, here is the first paragraph of the review from Rolling Stone in October, 1973 found here...
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/dark-side-of-the-moon-255381/

One of Britain’s most successful and long lived avant-garde rock bands, Pink Floyd emerged relatively unsullied from the mire of mid-Sixties British psychedelic music as early experimenters with outer space concepts. Although that phase of the band’s development was of short duration, Pink Floyd have from that time been the pop scene’s preeminent techno-rockers: four musicians with a command of electronic instruments who wield an arsenal of sound effects with authority and finesse. 

Please note the condescending nature the author of the piece had for psychedelia. Note also that the author infers that Pink Floyd had progressed beyond that juvenile stage of their development. 
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/dark-side-of-the-moon-255381/

One of Britain’s most successful and long lived avant-garde rock bands, Pink Floyd emerged relatively unsullied from the mire of mid-Sixties British psychedelic music as early experimenters with outer space concepts. Although that phase of the band’s development was of short duration, Pink Floyd have from that time been the pop scene’s preeminent techno-rockers: four musicians with a command of electronic instruments who wield an arsenal of sound effects with authority and finesse. 
R.I.P. Pink Floyd, legendary psych-rock band is officially broken up

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Personal big 6.
Genesis
Rush
Yes
Pink Floyd
Tull
Renaissance.
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I see this question as a moving target.  Below is a list of top selling albums that made the UK Charts which fall early on under Psychedelic (1966-68) and then bands migrated and Progressive Albums started to become popular.  So if you look at it in waves then you have:

BIG 6 WAVES
Wave 1 = Big 6 Forefathers: Beatles, The Who, Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Cream and Pink Floyd
Wave 2 - 1st Proggers (1969/1970): Moody Blues, Family, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, The Nice, King Crimson
Wave 3 - Established Proggers (1971 -1973): Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, Focus, Mike Oldfield, Roxy Music

I would throw Genesis into a Wave 4 all be it for a short time before they changed to Pop Music.  Also Hawkwind would be a strong consideration for Wave 3.

It does seem that the big era for Progressive rock was between 1969 and 1973.  In 1974 it was already declining in the UK.  But it was around this time that it started to really take hold around the world as people were listening to the Albums created between 1969 and 1973.

Anyway that is all just my opinion.


1966

The Beatles - Revolver (sort of the first Psychedelic)

1967 - Psychedelic Era

The Who - A Quick One (very experimental - Great Album Jan 1967) - Probably the first taste of progressive creativity
Rolling Stones - Between The Buttons
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced
Beatles - Sergeant Pepper
Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Cream - Disraeli Gears
Jimi Hendrix - Axis: Bold as Love
Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request


1968
Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
Pink Floyd - A Saucer full of Secrets (More Psychedelic/Space Rock)
Traffic  - Traffic (More Psychedelic)
Jethro Tull - This Was (more Blues Rock/Jazz Fusion)
Jimi Hendrix Experience (Psychedelic)


1969

Family - Family Entertainment
Moody Blues - On a Threshold of a Dream
Pink Floyd - More
Jethro Tull - Stand Up (really blues rock)
Blodwyn Pig -  A Head Rings Out
Nice - The Nice
King Crimson - In the court of the Crimson King
Pink Floyd - Ummagumma
Moody Blues - To Our Children's Children

1970

Family - A Song For Me
Chicago - Chicago
Blodwyn Pig  - Getting To This
Jethro Tull - Benefit
King Crimson - In The Wake of Poseidon
The Nice - Five Bridges
Moody Blues - A Question of Balance
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Family - Anyway
ELP - Emerson, Lake and Palmer

1971

Curved Air - Air Conditioning
Yes - The Yes Album
Jethro Tull - Aqualung
The Nice - Elegy
ELP - Tarkus
Moody Blues - Every Good Boy Deserves a Favour
Pink Floyd - Meddle
ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition
Yes - Fragile

1972

Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Wishbone Ash - Argus
Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds
ELP - Trilogy
Jethro Tull - Living in the Past
Yes - Close to the Edge
Roxy Music -  Roxy Music
Seventh Sojourn - Moody Blues

1973

Focus - Focus II (Moving Waves)
Focus - Focus III
Strawbs - Bursting at the Seams
Rick Wakeman - Six Wives of Henry the 8th
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon
Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
Yes - Yessongs
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Genesis - Genesis Live
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound
Roxy Music - Stranded
Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans

1974

ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
ELP - Welcome Back, My Friends, to the Show That Never Ends
Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Center of the Earth
Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge
Yes - Relayer

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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/dark-side-of-the-moon-255381/

One of Britain’s most successful and long lived avant-garde rock bands, Pink Floyd emerged relatively unsullied from the mire of mid-Sixties British psychedelic music as early experimenters with outer space concepts. Although that phase of the band’s development was of short duration, Pink Floyd have from that time been the pop scene’s preeminent techno-rockers: four musicians with a command of electronic instruments who wield an arsenal of sound effects with authority and finesse. 
R.I.P. Pink Floyd, legendary psych-rock band is officially broken up

by Alex Young on August 14, 2015, 9:39pm

You do realize that Alex Young, who founded Consequence of Sound in 2007, was not even born when Dark Side of the Moon was released. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Svetonio, this is what happens you bring Ramen noodles to an intellectual gunfight. I offered an actual, contemporary review of the album from THE major rock magazine in 1973 (and Rolling Stone was, at the time), you offered a title of an article written by a guy who wasn't even born yet.

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

You do realize that Alex Young, who founded Consequence of Sound in 2007, was not even born when Dark Side of the Moon was released. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

It’s the kind of determination and wit that has seen Gilmour not only become an icon with his psychedelic rock band Pink Floyd but become a bastion of creative endeavour while doing so.

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I offered an actual, contemporary review of the album from THE major rock magazine in 1973 (and Rolling Stone was, at the time),




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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

You do realize that Alex Young, who founded Consequence of Sound in 2007, was not even born when Dark Side of the Moon was released. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


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Your link brings up a Paul Anka article. Paul Anka was neither psychedelic or prog. Although the song "Having My Baby" was definitely weird. Needless to say, your article (once I found it) is from 2020, and the characterization that Gilmour is a psychedelic guitarist is incorrect on the part of whatever 12 year old wrote the piece.

Nearly every music site I looked at makes a clear delineation from THE Pink Floyd the psychedelic band, and Pink Floyd the progressive rock band. This is particularly true when reviewing albums from DSotM and onward, where the music is denoted as prog and not psychedelic....

ProgArchives
RateYourMusic (Prog Rock is the main header for DSotM and WYWH, and on Animals any mention of psych disappears altogether)
Prog Ears
All Music
Rolling Stone (50 Greatest Prog Albums lists Animals #13, Wish You Were Here #4 and DSotM #1)... 
loudersound
popmatters
discogs
digitaldreamdoor
vinylworld
Scaruffi

Even Wikipedia. Yes, even Wikipedia.

In fact, look up every "Greatest Albums of Prog" list and Pink Floyd albums are there. Now, look up the "Greatest Psychedelic Albums of All Time" and every list has Piper at the Gates of Dawn or Ummagumma, but not Dark Side of the Moon, WYWH or Animals. EVERY LIST. NME, Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, DigitalDreamDoor --even a site called PSYCHEDELIC SIGHT only mentions pre-DSotM albums on its list. 

Here is an article that describes the transformation (and that is not about Paul Anka):

The Dark Side of the Moon did for progressive music what Sgt. Pepper did for rock 'n' roll: elevating it from pop to art, and through one indelible and irrevocable triumph, granted authenticity -- for all time-- to an entire genre.









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here's an idea - next time someone starts a "big 6" topic, let's just close it, or when someone creates a topic on prog divisions, let's just shut them down. There, I said it. 
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