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the world will be a better place without any new Censored Yes album, whether new studio, new live or new compilation Evil Smile

Lay it to rest and deal with it dudes. Tongue
^Is this what you post every time someone suggests a new album from an old band?

I'm afraid he's right, or better said I agree with him. 
In the case of Yes, a break is well-deserved. Plus, their last two albums were bland affairs to put it nicely. 

I did listen to the ARW live album, it was good.Better than anything I heard from the Howe line up. 
Yes... after listening to Fly by Night, I'm with you here.
What I meant was is that Sean said exactly the same thing on the Will we ever see a new Genesis studio album? thread - except he said the world will be a better place without any new Censored Genesis album, etc., etc.

Fly by Night is a Rush album. 

Yes's album is called Fly From Here. 
Fly by Night... Fly from Here... same thing... 

are you serious? So now album titles don't matter anymore? Dead
As sure as my name is Paul, they don't. Dead is correct.

aw, have I upset you by thinking you are Paul. 
Ok, you are not Paul.

But if you are, you are the troll master. LOL Unbeatable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Ha ha... 
Have you noticed though, Psychedelic Paul himself has not been active on here since about when you asked if I was Paul...
... so I could be the unbeatable troll master... Evil SmileLOL
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

As sure as my name is Paul, they don't. Dead is correct.

aw, have I upset you by thinking you are Paul. 
Ok, you are not Paul.

But if you are, you are the troll master. LOL Unbeatable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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Ha ha... 
Have you noticed though, Psychedelic Paul himself has not been active on here since about when you asked if I was Paul...
... so I could be the unbeatable troll master... Evil SmileLOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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As sure as my name is Paul, they don't. Dead is correct.

aw, have I upset you by thinking you are Paul. 
Ok, you are not Paul.

But if you are, you are the troll master. LOL Unbeatable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Ha ha... 
Have you noticed though, Psychedelic Paul himself has not been active on here since about when you asked if I was Paul...
... so I could be the unbeatable troll master... Evil SmileLOL
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He's not going to fall for that one. LOL
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

As sure as my name is Paul, they don't. Dead is correct.

aw, have I upset you by thinking you are Paul. 
Ok, you are not Paul.

But if you are, you are the troll master. LOL Unbeatable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Ha ha... 
Have you noticed though, Psychedelic Paul himself has not been active on here since about when you asked if I was Paul...
... so I could be the unbeatable troll master... Evil SmileLOL

tell me which is your favorite Yes album and I will figure out if you are him or not. Evil Smile
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He's not going to fall for that one. LOL
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Are you sure? let's wait and see. LOL
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The more recent posts in this thread sound like they're from actual members of Yes using pseudonyms. No wonder they'll never get back together. You might as well just start farting at each other and see who passes out first.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

As sure as my name is Paul, they don't. Dead is correct.

aw, have I upset you by thinking you are Paul. 
Ok, you are not Paul.

But if you are, you are the troll master. LOL Unbeatable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Ha ha... 
Have you noticed though, Psychedelic Paul himself has not been active on here since about when you asked if I was Paul...
... so I could be the unbeatable troll master... Evil SmileLOL

tell me which is your favorite Yes album and I will figure out if you are him or not. Evil Smile
He's not going to fall for that one. LOL
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Are you sure? let's wait and see. LOL
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My favourite Yes album? The Ladder, of course.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

As sure as my name is Paul, they don't. Dead is correct.

aw, have I upset you by thinking you are Paul. 
Ok, you are not Paul.

But if you are, you are the troll master. LOL Unbeatable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Ha ha... 
Have you noticed though, Psychedelic Paul himself has not been active on here since about when you asked if I was Paul...
... so I could be the unbeatable troll master... Evil SmileLOL

tell me which is your favorite Yes album and I will figure out if you are him or not. Evil Smile
He's not going to fall for that one. LOL

Are you sure? let's wait and see. LOL
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My favourite Yes album? The Ladder, of course.
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^I became very familiar with that rock operetta after I was in a production of "Joseph" in middle school. So I can confirm he would have been at home in that cast. That or Jesus Christ, Superstar.

LOL, thanks!  That or "Godspell," I keep mixing them up! 

Ian Gillian was drop-dead AMAZING in the recording for "Jesus Christ Superstar," I think that is my favorite performance of his!  

Davison was excellent on Glass Hammer's CD "Perilous," but I can understand wishing to join a legendary band. I actually suggested Davison as a substitute for Benoit David some years ago, as Benoit's onstage twirling act grew tiresome. 

I only wish Yes had brought in a woman vocalist, that would have been a very progressive move!  Nope, they had to do the tired old "find a tribute band singer" routine, like Journey & everyone else out there. 

Have you ever seen this?  This thread is the perfect place for it!! 



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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

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^I became very familiar with that rock operetta after I was in a production of "Joseph" in middle school. So I can confirm he would have been at home in that cast. That or Jesus Christ, Superstar.


LOL, thanks!  That or "Godspell," I keep mixing them up! 

Ian Gillian was drop-dead AMAZING in the recording for "Jesus Christ Superstar," I think that is my favorite performance of his!  

Davison was excellent on Glass Hammer's CD "Perilous," but I can understand wishing to join a legendary band. I actually suggested Davison as a substitute for Benoit David some years ago, as Benoit's onstage twirling act grew tiresome. 

I only wish Yes had brought in a woman vocalist, that would have been a very progressive move!  Nope, they had to do the tired old "find a tribute band singer" routine, like Journey & everyone else out there. 

Have you ever seen this?  This thread is the perfect place for it!! 




I do remember when you were suggesting him, and at the time it seemed like a good idea, since Benoit was struggling with the songs live, but hearing him live with Yes it just didn't work for me... perhaps he doesn't struggle so much, but he sounds bland... almost as if he'll fall asleep while singing. And for me Benoit's singing on Fly from Here was really beautiful, while Davidson's singing on Heaven and Earth was as bland as his live singing (if not even more so)... so, in the end, they might just as well have kept Benoit... or even better, get Anderson back, he's still singing wonderfully.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

The more recent posts in this thread sound like they're from actual members of Yes using pseudonyms. No wonder they'll never get back together. You might as well just start farting at each other and see who passes out first.

Okay, BUSTED! 
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^I became very familiar with that rock operetta after I was in a production of "Joseph" in middle school. So I can confirm he would have been at home in that cast. That or Jesus Christ, Superstar.


LOL, thanks!  That or "Godspell," I keep mixing them up! 

Ian Gillian was drop-dead AMAZING in the recording for "Jesus Christ Superstar," I think that is my favorite performance of his!  

Davison was excellent on Glass Hammer's CD "Perilous," but I can understand wishing to join a legendary band. I actually suggested Davison as a substitute for Benoit David some years ago, as Benoit's onstage twirling act grew tiresome. 

I only wish Yes had brought in a woman vocalist, that would have been a very progressive move!  Nope, they had to do the tired old "find a tribute band singer" routine, like Journey & everyone else out there. 

Have you ever seen this?  This thread is the perfect place for it!! 




I do remember when you were suggesting him, and at the time it seemed like a good idea, since Benoit was struggling with the songs live, but hearing him live with Yes it just didn't work for me... perhaps he doesn't struggle so much, but he sounds bland... almost as if he'll fall asleep while singing. And for me Benoit's singing on Fly from Here was really beautiful, while Davidson's singing on Heaven and Earth was as bland as his live singing (if not even more so)... so, in the end, they might just as well have kept Benoit... or even better, get Anderson back, he's still singing wonderfully.

Thank you, D, I didn't know anyone noticed my "Yes lineup coaching!"  

As time went on, I became rather fond of Benoit, and appreciated his voice much more than his live act.  I agree, his vocals on FFH were excellent.  Yes treated him harshly in the end, but that is their history....Banks, Moraz, Igor, etc.  (well, Igor had issues....)

Davison on the other hand disappoints me in Yes.  Not sure why, but there is no spark there.  I expected more.

Clearly, Howe blocks the door to Jon Anderson returning, they really have a war going on.  Howe pissed off Wakeman by sacking Ollie, and he is now the undisputed leader of this outfit.  Good luck to him.


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I know this is a bit off topic, but I just listened to Steve Howe's new solo album Love Is, on YouTube and have to admit I was quite surprised. It was much better than I had expected. It's no substitute for a proper Yes album and it's more "prog-light" than a proper prog album. This will probably be the first album from him I've bought since Turbulence.
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Have Yes become a tribute band to itself, like some people here have suggested? Well, maybe there is some truth to that. But the reason is not, as far as I’m concerned, the absence or presence of this or that particular member in the current line up, but rather the fact that they keep touring year after year, and releasing live album after live album, without having any new material to showcase.

 

Yes is no alone in this, many (most?) older bands nowadays seems to be content playing their classic songs live, and rarely go in to the studio to record anything new. The fact that they make more money from playing live may have something to do with it, but personally I think it is lame. A band remains relevant as long as they create new music.
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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:


Have Yes become a tribute band to itself, like some people here have suggested? Well, maybe there is some truth to that. But the reason is not, as far as I’m concerned, the absence or presence of this or that particular member in the current line up, but rather the fact that they keep touring year after year, and releasing live album after live album, without having any new material to showcase.

 

Yes is no alone in this, many (most?) older bands nowadays seems to be content playing their classic songs live, and rarely go in to the studio to record anything new. The fact that they make more money from playing live may have something to do with it, but personally I think it is lame. A band remains relevant as long as they create new music.

Well said.


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Maybe not a new studio album, but how about a new album of live material? 





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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^I became very familiar with that rock operetta after I was in a production of "Joseph" in middle school. So I can confirm he would have been at home in that cast. That or Jesus Christ, Superstar.


LOL, thanks!  That or "Godspell," I keep mixing them up! 

Ian Gillian was drop-dead AMAZING in the recording for "Jesus Christ Superstar," I think that is my favorite performance of his!  

Davison was excellent on Glass Hammer's CD "Perilous," but I can understand wishing to join a legendary band. I actually suggested Davison as a substitute for Benoit David some years ago, as Benoit's onstage twirling act grew tiresome. 

I only wish Yes had brought in a woman vocalist, that would have been a very progressive move!  Nope, they had to do the tired old "find a tribute band singer" routine, like Journey & everyone else out there. 

Have you ever seen this?  This thread is the perfect place for it!! 




I do remember when you were suggesting him, and at the time it seemed like a good idea, since Benoit was struggling with the songs live, but hearing him live with Yes it just didn't work for me... perhaps he doesn't struggle so much, but he sounds bland... almost as if he'll fall asleep while singing. And for me Benoit's singing on Fly from Here was really beautiful, while Davidson's singing on Heaven and Earth was as bland as his live singing (if not even more so)... so, in the end, they might just as well have kept Benoit... or even better, get Anderson back, he's still singing wonderfully.


Thank you, D, I didn't know anyone noticed my "Yes lineup coaching!"  

As time went on, I became rather fond of Benoit, and appreciated his voice much more than his live act.  I agree, his vocals on FFH were excellent.  Yes treated him harshly in the end, but that is their history....Banks, Moraz, Igor, etc.  (well, Igor had issues....)

Davison on the other hand disappoints me in Yes.  Not sure why, but there is no spark there.  I expected more.

Clearly, Howe blocks the door to Jon Anderson returning, they really have a war going on.  Howe pissed off Wakeman by sacking Ollie, and he is now the undisputed leader of this outfit.  Good luck to him.



However, Yes would be much better if they got Anderson back, and Oliver as well, if they can't get Rick. I really think they messed up sacking Oliver for Downes.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Maybe not a new studio album, but how about a new album of live material? 






I can hardly think of anything I would enjoy hearing them play live, unless perhaps they might play something from Heaven & Earth, which for some reason they haven't, and I believe it might benefit from a live version.
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However, Yes would be much better if they got Anderson back, and Oliver as well, if they can't get Rick. I really think they messed up sacking Oliver for Downes.

I agree very much.  Howe took control of the band and tried to turn it into Asia Redux or something.  

By firing Ollie, he forever alienated Wakeman, to his everlasting discredit.  

Anderson said he'd come back, but it won't happen.  I hope they drift away into the sunset, playing "Roundabout" over and over and over.  
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Maybe not a new studio album, but how about a new album of live material? 





WTF, not yet another live album Angry

This is exactly what I was talking about above, these old bands just touring endlessly and releasing live album after live album without having any new material to show for themselves. This is imo precisely the problem.

I don't mind live albums as such, but the ratio between live albums and studio albums is soo skewed. In the 70's, bands used to make several studio albums between live albums, nowadays it is the other way around.



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However, Yes would be much better if they got Anderson back, and Oliver as well, if they can't get Rick. I really think they messed up sacking Oliver for Downes.


Well, at least Downes (and Trevor Horn) had a history with the band, and some unfinished business. I am very glad that they got to finally record Fly From Here in the studio 30 years or so after it was first written. However, they should have done it with the exact Drama line up in the first place, like on this more recent "Return Trip" version.

My own speculation to why they did not do that, is that Howe wanted to do big tours and Horn did not. Howe's desire to tour all the time is also what drove Anderson and Wakeman away.
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