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    Posted: April 05 2019 at 17:09
Please don't tell me they were rejected in 2017 (I know) since than 2 more album 1 as recently as April 5th
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Noted
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Noted
and shoved under the rag?
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Sorry but it has been rejected for the second time in the last 3 years. The site rules say that it can be re-evaluated as soon as new material is released.
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new album released 2020 "Kay and Gerda" Wink If this artist, the brains behind Millenium and owner of Lynx Records in Poland , I will really start wondering about the end of the world. 
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I have nothing to say anymore, I enjoy prog albums even when decision makers here reject them, members of PA lose, I have all 4 albums and each one of them is a 4 stars album IMHO 
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Whilst I don't rate their albums as highly as mbzr48 – to me, they're slightly-above-average neoprog – they're unquestionably a progressive rock band, so I'm surprised by this decision, especially considering some of the bands that did make it in.
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Is the new album available somewhere?
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It sure is: http://progstreaming.nl/pages/play-album.php?activeAlbum=2020-07-01-02%20-%20tRKproject%20-%20Kay%20and%20Gerda.

Or if you prefer spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/3Kt68Uhi1uXkl3ZdqbhC24.

I don't fully understand what happened regarding the proposal to add this guy in the past. Ermm

OK, he was eventually rejected in all the subs where he might possibly have fitted - here's the original suggestion thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=110666.

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The Ryszard Kramarski Project

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4yDamoXt7942Neo-> Rejected
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4yDamoXt7942Neo-> Move
4yoctopus4Neo (octopus4)
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4yDamoXt7942Neo (DamoXt7942)
4yDamoXt7942Neo (DamoXt7942)
4yDamoXt7942Neo-> New
4yDamoXt7942Neo-> Cleared
4yDamoXt7942Neo (DamoXt7942)
4yoctopus4Neo (octopus4)
4yDamoXt7942Neo-> New

He was cleared for inclusion in Neo at one point, but there were a lot of changes to the various collaborators' votes after that, resulting eventually in a 'no' vote which of course meant that it was curtains for him.

His music isn't exactly anything we haven't heard before, or outrageously proggy come to that, but it's fine, accessible, melodic and creative stuff that I would have thought was worth a place in Crossover at least, and as tszirmay says above, he is the brains behind Millenium and the owner of Lynx Records in Poland. I'm surprised we can't accommodate him here somewhere tbf.

I can't really see the new album making a whole lot of difference to the final outcome, but I'll bet the discussion in the collab zone made (and probably will make) for some interesting reading lol!
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Fine, but there must be something wrong on PF. I wasn't in the Neo team 4 years ago.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Fine, but there must be something wrong on PF. I wasn't in the Neo team 4 years ago.
Correct, but I brought it up on April 2019 and the one word I got from you was "Noted"
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I actually was unsure, and when the first No vote in a three members team came, rejecting was automatic, following the site rules, and as you say,  it was last year, not 4 years ago.
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Yes, it's a bit strange why progfreak dates all that activity at four years ago, but never mind - it's just the new album which is being evaluated now, so you're starting off with a clean slate in effect.

While we are on the subject of Ryszard Kramarski, in 2010 he produced, recorded and mixed the album 'Anonym' by Łukasz Gall (Gałęziowski), who was the lead singer on the nine albums officially released by Millenium at the time, and still is their lead vocalist, after a short break from the band for the 2018 album MMXVIII, which saw Marek Smelkowski take on the role of lead vocalist.

I suggested that the project/album should be included here somewhere at the end of February 2018, but the suggestion must have slipped down a hole somewhere I guess.

The thread is now locked, but if you guys fancy evaluating Łukasz Gall as well, then the original suggestion can be found here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114039. Smile

Edit: Full album stream for possible Gall - Anonym (2010) evaluation can be found on Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/album/7276859.

I added Gall to progfreak at the time of my original suggestion, but no PA tab exists as yet: https://progfreak.com/Gall-170354.html.


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Sorry for my missing Gall, David. Added on charts already ... will check later.

Anyway as for tRKproject I've listened to their latest album "Kay & Gerda" and felt they can be fitter for Crossover than Neo.
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Thanks Keishiro. Thumbs Up
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His latest release 'Kay & Gerda' sounds neo to these ears Smile
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Now under eval in Crossover.
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Added in Crossover finally.
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