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    Posted: August 27 2020 at 11:22
I was just searching for a neo-prog appreciation thread, and I was appalled to find there wasn't one! This could be a problem with my machine and there is a neo-prog thread - if so could admins please close this one - but if not, I'd personally love to hear some recommendations for post-80s neo-prog, which is why I went looking for a neo-prog thread in the first place, I'm not too knowledgeable on it. 
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Sanguine Hum, Frost*, The Psychedelic Ensemble, Sylvan, and Lifesigns come to mind.
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There was this thread from last year: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120651

Bands from this genre that I find interesting include: IQ, Magenta, Arena, Comedy of Errors, Airbag, Darwin's Radio, Pallas, Flamborough Head, Introitus, The Watch, RPWL, Monarch Trail, Agents of Mercy, Majestic, The Far Meadow, Red Sand, Credo, Huis, Argos, Little Atlas, East, Apple Pie, Salem Hill, Galleon, InVertigo, Mindgames.




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I have to give a mention for Pendragon here - especially for their latest album Love Over Fear (best prog album of 2020 so far).

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I second the recommendation for Pendragon - Love Over Fear :)
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I don’t listen to much Neo-Prog, but I did like The Watch (as already mentioned by ProgArdvaark). You might like the Vacuum album and others (I only know Vacuum).    Also Citizen Cain’s Somewhere but Yesterday might be up your alley (very much in the Genesis vein, some would say too much, as is the Watch in the Genesis vein,, and well, quite a lot of Neo-Prog methinks).

And while it is no longer included in Neo-Prog, it used to be, Discipline is very good. I like Unfolded Like Staircase.

Here is a Citizen Cain track, and I know you like Genesis Duke, but this more reminiscent of Gabriel era.



Other people will likely do better with their suggestions. My favourite of those I mentioned is Discipline, but like I said, it was moved out of Neo-Prog. I think the debut by Discipline is the most Neo-Proggy album by the band .



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Thanks, all these posts are very helpful. I'm glad to see a lot of IQ fans about. As for Love over Fear, I'm planning to get it, but I'm not exactly counting on it as I think I planned to get it in June and forgot all about it. LOL
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

 Here is a link to the top 100 NEO prog albums released since 1990 according to PA reviews.  You can adjust the search however you see fit.

https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=18&syears=2020&syears=2019&syears=2018&syears=2017&syears=2016&syears=2015&syears=2014&syears=2013&syears=2012&syears=2011&syears=2010&syears=2009&syears=2008&syears=2007&syears=2006&syears=2005&syears=2004&syears=2003&syears=2002&syears=2001&syears=2000&syears=1999&syears=1998&syears=1997&syears=1996&syears=1995&syears=1994&syears=1993&syears=1992&syears=1991&syears=1990&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=76&y=13#list">https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=18&syears=2020&syears=2019&syears=2018&syears=2017&syears=2016&syears=2015&syears=2014&syears=2013&syears=2012&syears=2011&syears=2010&syears=2009&syears=2008&syears=2007&syears=2006&syears=2005&syears=2004&syears=2003&syears=2002&syears=2001&syears=2000&syears=1999&syears=1998&syears=1997&syears=1996&syears=1995&syears=1994&syears=1993&syears=1992&syears=1991&syears=1990&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=76&y=13#list
This gives me a good idea of what to look for, thanks. Slightly disappointing Subterranea (IQ) only just the top 20, but you can't have everything!
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I don’t listen to much Neo-Prog, but I did like The Watch (as already mentioned by ProgArdvaark). You might like the Vacuum album and others (I only know Vacuum).    Also Citizen Cain’s Somewhere but Yesterday might be up your alley (very much in the Genesis vein, some would say too much, as is the Watch in the Genesis vein,, and well, quite a lot of Neo-Prog methinks).

And while it is no longer included in Neo-Prog, it used to be, Discipline is very good. I like Unfolded Like Staircase.

Here is a Citizen Cain track, and I know you like Genesis Duke, but this more reminiscent of Gabriel era.



Other people will likely do better with their suggestions. My favourite of those I mentioned is Discipline, but like I said, it was moved out of Neo-Prog. I think the debut by Discipline is the most Neo-Proggy album by the band .



I've already heard of Discipline, but never actually heard them. They seem very neo prog to me, where were they moved to?
All I can say about Citizen Cain is that, yes, it is up my alley, and yes, sounds exactly like Genesis, but there's nothing wrong with that! I used to say neo prog replaced Genesis for old Genesis fans in the 80s when they got annoyed with new, pop Genesis. Mind you, Citizen Cane, though their sound is similar to Genesis, you can tell clearly from that song was composed by different people as it is structured in a different way, I think, that Genesis would have done. Anyway, thanks all for posts.
I'd also liked to ask whether so called new prog bands are included in the neo prog section, or is it just considered by collaborators to be a collection of different unrelated sounds? 
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^ Thanks for the response, FC. Discipline was moved to Symphonic Prog, and Symphonic Prog is very related to Neo-Prog anyway (some called it the new wave of Symphonic Prog). I have only heard Discipline'e early work, and of course it's common for bands to take different directions. That track I posted from the debut is I think commonly described as from an album of the Neo-Prog style -- more so than later albums I think. But I expect that they all have a Neo-Prog relation and classification, at least here, is not an exact science.   Good band, I think, whatever you call the music.

By the way, I don't mind clones if I think they do it well and I like what they are influenced by.

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Discipline are a local band that I have been fortunate enough to see live a couple of times.  I got to meet Matthew Parmenter and Mathew Kennedy after one of their shows.  They were nice guys.  We talk a little a bit about prog and they mentioned being fans of VDGG and Magma.
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I tend to get a bit stuck on IQ but enjoy some Arena, Marillion, Comedy Of Errors, Magenta, Alkozaur , Also Eden, The Far Meadow ,Legend and Altavia.

Magenta's last 3 albums probably make them my favourite Neo band just at the moment although I never really think of them as 'Neo' for some reason.
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Thanks, Logan.
Another post-80s neo band - the Modern Rock Ensemble, that I discovered on the discog section. I've seen a couple of threads on them.
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I listen to quite a bit of this neo-prog genre or at least artists that are labeled that here (God I hate genre tags...)

Some really great music that has come from these bands over the past 20+yrs.

Marillion
IQ
Arena
Magenta
Mystery
Galleon
Pendragon
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Thanks, all these posts are very helpful. I'm glad to see a lot of IQ fans about. As for Love over Fear, I'm planning to get it, but I'm not exactly counting on it as I think I planned to get it in June and forgot all about it. LOL
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

 Here is a link to the top 100 NEO prog albums released since 1990 according to PA reviews.  You can adjust the search however you see fit.

https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=18&syears=2020&syears=2019&syears=2018&syears=2017&syears=2016&syears=2015&syears=2014&syears=2013&syears=2012&syears=2011&syears=2010&syears=2009&syears=2008&syears=2007&syears=2006&syears=2005&syears=2004&syears=2003&syears=2002&syears=2001&syears=2000&syears=1999&syears=1998&syears=1997&syears=1996&syears=1995&syears=1994&syears=1993&syears=1992&syears=1991&syears=1990&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=76&y=13#list">https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=18&syears=2020&syears=2019&syears=2018&syears=2017&syears=2016&syears=2015&syears=2014&syears=2013&syears=2012&syears=2011&syears=2010&syears=2009&syears=2008&syears=2007&syears=2006&syears=2005&syears=2004&syears=2003&syears=2002&syears=2001&syears=2000&syears=1999&syears=1998&syears=1997&syears=1996&syears=1995&syears=1994&syears=1993&syears=1992&syears=1991&syears=1990&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=76&y=13#list
This gives me a good idea of what to look for, thanks. Slightly disappointing Subterranea (IQ) only just the top 20, but you can't have everything!
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I don’t listen to much Neo-Prog, but I did like The Watch (as already mentioned by ProgArdvaark). You might like the Vacuum album and others (I only know Vacuum).    Also Citizen Cain’s Somewhere but Yesterday might be up your alley (very much in the Genesis vein, some would say too much, as is the Watch in the Genesis vein,, and well, quite a lot of Neo-Prog methinks).

And while it is no longer included in Neo-Prog, it used to be, Discipline is very good. I like Unfolded Like Staircase.

Here is a Citizen Cain track, and I know you like Genesis Duke, but this more reminiscent of Gabriel era.



Other people will likely do better with their suggestions. My favourite of those I mentioned is Discipline, but like I said, it was moved out of Neo-Prog. I think the debut by Discipline is the most Neo-Proggy album by the band .



I've already heard of Discipline, but never actually heard them. They seem very neo prog to me, where were they moved to?
All I can say about Citizen Cain is that, yes, it is up my alley, and yes, sounds exactly like Genesis, but there's nothing wrong with that! I used to say neo prog replaced Genesis for old Genesis fans in the 80s when they got annoyed with new, pop Genesis. Mind you, Citizen Cane, though their sound is similar to Genesis, you can tell clearly from that song was composed by different people as it is structured in a different way, I think, that Genesis would have done. Anyway, thanks all for posts.
I'd also liked to ask whether so called new prog bands are included in the neo prog section, or is it just considered by collaborators to be a collection of different unrelated sounds? 
^Just remembered, no one has answered this question - or has no one have any thoughts on it at all?
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Discipline are under symphonic prog here on PA.
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^That wasn't my question. 
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Neo-prog is like NWOBHM, a new wave of bands, inspired by 70s prog, especially Genesis, Pink Floyd, Camel, even VDGG (Twlfth Night, Marillion), think symphonic prog with an 80s twist, if that makes sense. 

New prog bands can mean a lot of things - crossover, post rock, progressive metal, etc. 


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My understanding from a conversation with a former collab is that the main difference between symphonic prog and Neo prog is the use of mellotrons and moogs or string instruments in Symph versus the use of modern keyboards and computers to generate a similar sound in Neo.  Neo also tends to have a more metal sound than traditional symph prog.  
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Are you asking why all new prog bands aren't put in neo but are put in the sub genre suitable for their style music be it folk prog, avant, zeuhl, eclectic etc.
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^Yes.
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