The American Politics Thread

Counting extended family and the people who I know outside of family. I probably know several hundred republicans in Texas, Florida, California and TN. I know trumpateers and I know the ones that don't like him. The number that don't like him would surprise someone like you.

If he loses, count on the repub establishment, (Cruz, Graham, Rubio, Paul) to turn on him. Yes, fear is a factor for repub motivation, but you can bet the other repubs know how to manipulate that stuff too. trump isn't the only one who knows how to tap into that, and the others are much smoother at it and less repungent (sp).

Look at it this way, do you think Biden owns the dems, of course not, they just hope he can get the job done, if he fails, he is gone, same for trump. trump will make noise from the sidelines, but the establishment will disown him.

Edited by Easy Money - August 29 2020 at 08:37

Easy Money wrote: Counting extended family and the people who I know outside of family. I probably know several hundred republicans in Texas, Florida, California and TN. I know trumpateers and I know the ones that don't like him. The number that don't like him would surprise someone like you. If he loses, count on the repub establishment, (Cruz, Graham, Rubio, Paul) to turn on him. Yes, fear is a factor for repub motivation, but you can bet the other repubs know how to manipulate that stuff too. trump isn't the only one who knows how to tap into that, and the others are much smoother at it and less repungent (sp). Look at it this way, do you think Biden owns the dems, of course not, they just hope he can get the job done, if he fails, he is gone, same for trump. trump will make noise from the sidelines, but the establishment will disown him.

yes.. but what I find surprising John is you failing to recognize the disconnect between the establishment and the base with the GOP. Comparing that party to the Democrats is apples and oranges. Only a moron would fail to recognize the difference between the two parties. One is a coalition.. the other purges those who fail to tow the line. Loyalty is key more than working together through differences.

Edited by micky - August 29 2020 at 09:16

that is the basic problem the Republicans have Scott.. that would be a great ticket.. 

Re Micky: What you are failing to recognize is that the base did beat the establishment in 2016, but that is no guarantee that will happen again in 2024.
The repub party is far more diverse than you realize The trumpateers ran the show in 2016 because the establishment played along, but once again, I know lots and lots of repubs who are not trumpateers and the establishment wants them back.

Lets take my two little sisters for example, both are repubs who voted trump in 2016 and probably will not vote for him in 2020. They are educated, professional, responsible and not the least bit racist. I know lots and lots of repubs like that.

I mean.. come on.. even the Chamber of Commerce.. that once great Republican stalwart.. is going Democratic.

Re Micky: Your opinions are based on what you read in the media, you do not know the republican party and its constituents on a personal basis like I do.

You can tell a candidate's popularity around here by the bumper stickers and the yard signs. W generated tons of yard signs and car stickers, McCain and Romney less, but still visible, but with trump there is very little visible support. The man is not near as popular as you would like to think. Most of his votes are based on the fact that he isn't a democrat, but I see very little love for the guy except from a few die-hards.

Edited by Easy Money - August 29 2020 at 10:16

Its weird I'm here defending the repubs, I'm an independent who is disgusted with how they have cowered to trump, but I don't care for misinformation or propaganda from either party or the media.

rushfan4 wrote: There are at least 20 Trump-Pence signs up on lawns in my neighborhood.  I've yet to see a Biden-Harris sign in my neighborhood, although I have seen a couple in neighboring neighborhoods...not nearly as many as the Trump - Pence signs.

Interesting, there are no trump signs here so far. A republican friend of mine who hates trump tells me that a lot of repubs are embarrassed to say they are voting for him. LOL

rushfan4 wrote: I'm a Democrat who is becoming disenchanted with the left wing of the party but can't stand Trump so feel like I am between a rock and a hard place.

Biden vs trump is an easy choice. trump is a disaster, no good as a conservative and absolutely nothing going on as a progressive.