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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

worse than Tormato, Big Generator & Open Your Eyes combined. Smile

Well that's Heaven and Earth summed up nicely. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

worse than Tormato, Big Generator & Open Your Eyes combined. Smile

Well that's Heaven and Earth summed up nicely. Wink

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oh, wait, I like Big Generator
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

worse than Tormato, Big Generator & Open Your Eyes combined. Smile

Well that's Heaven and Earth summed up nicely. Wink

Evil SmileLOL
No, let's not start this again. I wish I hadn't posted that now. LOL
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

worse than Tormato, Big Generator & Open Your Eyes combined. Smile

Well that's Heaven and Earth summed up nicely. Wink

Evil SmileLOL
No, let's not start this again. I wish I hadn't posted that now. LOL

sorry, I'll stop. Embarrassed
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I'm pretty firmly in the "I pretty much like everything that Yes has done" corner, so I'd be happy to have a new studio album from them.  The amount of Yes-related material in existence is truly overwhelming, but there is very little that I don't like and I am always happy when they come out with new material.  The new Steve Howe album is pretty good, although his singing is still not the greatest.  LOL  Jon Anderson's 1000 Hands album was really good, as far as I am concerned.  I've heard really encouraging reviews on Rick Wakeman's new album, but haven't heard that one yet.  
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There may well be a new album from the Howe version of Yes. He has certainly spoken about it.

I don’t think it would be a good idea. Heaven & Earth was extremely ordinary.

As far as new stuff is concerned, I am enjoying 1000 Hands. Anderson is on good form, although much of it is actually quite old music. I am looking forward to listening to Wakeman’s new one, and I thought the ARW live strand was far superior to the official Yes version.

Howe and Anderson will never work together again. Howe has barely suffered Jon since the financial fallout after the Tormato breakup of the band. ABWH was a fantastic effort, and should have been a springboard to a fine long term collaboration, but Anderson wanted Yes. Bruford had no interest in that beyond a money spinning tour, and that Union period put the final nail in the coffin of Anderson and Howe trusting each other. Howe loathes Anderson. End of.

Anyhow, I have no issue whatsoever in accepting it is over. I wish the Howe version would stop. I enjoy listening to past glories. I have more of an issue with older musicians trying, and failing, to revisit said past glories.

The past is the past. There is so much great new music out there, including some Yes members solo stuff. Let’s leave it at that.
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I had hoped against hope that Yes would continue, perhaps with the offspring of members (Ollie Wakeman especially) in their lead roles, and with the senior members in the wings, as mentors. 

Alas, the band has degenerated into a group of toddlers, fighting over blocks in the playpen. 

The sooner Yes passes on into the history books, the better.  There is no saving that mess.  Pains me to say it, my first Yes show was CTTE in 1972.  
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^ I feel more or less the same way. I've always felt like a bit of an anomaly in the sense that I got into the band in a big way in the 80's when prog wasn't cool. I'm sure lots of younger people had the 90125 album but they probably stopped there and didn't necessarily become big prog heads like I did. Anyway, I've been into them since then and while I am not old enough to have been into them in the 70's at one point I was probably as big into them as just about anyone else. However, I have no intention of seeing them again or buying any more albums by them unless they make some kind of change preferably one that includes letting Jon Anderson back in the band. I don't see that happening though so for me it's all about the memories now and moving onto other bands(maybe ones who were influenced by them). 
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As long as they keep their current line-up, I don't think they would be able to create something worth of hearing (yet, I'm sure I would end up buying it anyway). I do believe they should have kept Oliver in the band, and then perhaps once Benoit was ready to leave they could have had Anderson back. And for bass, I know Squire chose Sherwood to go on, but what I have heard from him just isn't up to the stantard of Yes music, I just don't trust him being able to create something worthy of Yes... after hearing Steven Wilson's Raven album, oh I wish Yes had gotten Nick Beggs into the band... and then some of those great drummers Wilson himself has used for his music. I would much rather have heard a new album from AWR than from Howe's Yes... but it seems that one imploded too
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

There may well be a new album from the Howe version of Yes. He has certainly spoken about it.

I don’t think it would be a good idea. Heaven & Earth was extremely ordinary.

As far as new stuff is concerned, I am enjoying 1000 Hands. Anderson is on good form, although much of it is actually quite old music. I am looking forward to listening to Wakeman’s new one, and I thought the ARW live strand was far superior to the official Yes version.

Howe and Anderson will never work together again. Howe has barely suffered Jon since the financial fallout after the Tormato breakup of the band. ABWH was a fantastic effort, and should have been a springboard to a fine long term collaboration, but Anderson wanted Yes. Bruford had no interest in that beyond a money spinning tour, and that Union period put the final nail in the coffin of Anderson and Howe trusting each other. Howe loathes Anderson. End of.

Anyhow, I have no issue whatsoever in accepting it is over. I wish the Howe version would stop. I enjoy listening to past glories. I have more of an issue with older musicians trying, and failing, to revisit said past glories.

The past is the past. There is so much great new music out there, including some Yes members solo stuff. Let’s leave it at that.


I certainly agree that Heaven & Earth was weak, but why does that mean that a new album would be a bad idea? Could they not have learned something from how H & E was received, and make an effort to step up their game? They are sure taking their time, so maybe they are really holding off until they are sure they have a better album than the last one?

Wakeman's new album The Red Planet is fantastic, I highly recommend it.

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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

As long as they keep their current line-up, I don't think they would be able to create something worth of hearing (yet, I'm sure I would end up buying it anyway). I do believe they should have kept Oliver in the band, and then perhaps once Benoit was ready to leave they could have had Anderson back. And for bass, I know Squire chose Sherwood to go on, but what I have heard from him just isn't up to the stantard of Yes music, I just don't trust him being able to create something worthy of Yes... after hearing Steven Wilson's Raven album, oh I wish Yes had gotten Nick Beggs into the band... and then some of those great drummers Wilson himself has used for his music. I would much rather have heard a new album from AWR than from Howe's Yes... but it seems that one imploded too

Well said, D! 

When Yes were around, Chris Squire was truly innovative....there were very few with his skill and chops on the bass guitar.  However, decades later, many musicians have surfaced of equal skill and talent, Beggs being one.  

Squire was remarkable for singing and playing bass simultaneously, one of the best I'd ever seen!  Wetton and Lake could also do this, it is incredibly hard to do with complex bass parts.  

I would have liked to seen Yes retain Ollie Wakeman and gone in a more "progressive" direction for vocals instead of the hackneyed approach of bringing on a tribute band vocalist.  Personally, I always thought Yes music lent itself to a female lead vocalist.  

These are all "what if" stories, perhaps someday lighting will be captured in a bottle once more, and another band that rivals and even surpasses Yes will appear.  I'm happy to hold onto my memories of the amazing band I'd followed for decades, and I don't wish to sully my memories by seeing substandard performances in a tiny casino stage someplace. 
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I wouldn't mind a new album from AWR or ARW or whatever it's called . 

If any classic prog line up is looking for a drummer then why not Carl Palmer? He is virtually the only drummer from the classic era still either alive or going strong. Alan White is totally clapped out as already mentioned.  Howe and Palmer were in Asia together so maybe a version of Yes with them might not be so strange. I would float a line up of Howe, Davison, Oliver Wakeman, Palmer and Beggs that could comfortably play the classic Yes material and maybe produce a new album under the Yes moniker. As long as Howe is involved then the band can be called Yes imo. As suggested already , Nick Beggs is the only modern bass player remotely suitable .
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Alan White doesn't cut it anymore as a live drummer (which is why they have Jay Schellen on board as extra drummer on tours now), but there is no reason White wouldn't be able to record a new studio album with the band. Playing live and recording in the studio are very different things. If they do another studio album, they should do it with White, but let Schellen take over already when they go on tour.


And I don't know why people are so hard on Billy Sherwood, he is an excellent bass player and vocalist, and he also plays guitar and drums, as well as produces, mixes, etc. a truly multitalented person. It is ridiculous that he is being treated as a "new guy", when he has a history with the band going back almost 30 years.


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I HOPE NOT!!!

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I wouldn't mind a new album from AWR or ARW or whatever it's called . 

As suggested already , Nick Beggs is the only modern bass player remotely suitable .
 
There isn't likely to be an ARW album now. I agree with the person who said their live album is a whole lot better than the Howe-Yes live album. They have a lot more energy and drive so it's a shame this seems to have died a death. Still, the recent Anderson and Wakeman solo albums are both excellent.
 
Sorry Richard, whilst Mr Beggs is a fine bass player there are others who can play to that level. If you listen to the ARW live album, Lee Pomeroy is brilliant (better than Sherwood) - his playing on Heart of the Sunrise in particular is up to Squire's level.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I wouldn't mind a new album from AWR or ARW or whatever it's called . 

As suggested already , Nick Beggs is the only modern bass player remotely suitable .
 
There isn't likely to be an ARW album now. I agree with the person who said their live album is a whole lot better than the Howe-Yes live album. They have a lot more energy and drive so it's a shame this seems to have died a death. Still, the recent Anderson and Wakeman solo albums are both excellent.
 
Sorry Richard, whilst Mr Beggs is a fine bass player there are others who can play to that level. If you listen to the ARW live album, Lee Pomeroy is brilliant (better than Sherwood) - his playing on Heart of the Sunrise in particular is up to Squire's level.


Yes, Lee Pomeroy is great Clap The drummer Lou Molino is good as well.

Pomeroy has been part of Wakeman's band for quite a while, and plays on The Red Planet. Moulino has been associated with Rabin. It would have been interesting to hear new studio material from this version of Yes, but like you say it is unlikely to happen. But it was nice to see Rabin on the stage again, after so many years doing film music.

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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

There may well be a new album from the Howe version of Yes. He has certainly spoken about it.

I don’t think it would be a good idea. Heaven & Earth was extremely ordinary.

As far as new stuff is concerned, I am enjoying 1000 Hands. Anderson is on good form, although much of it is actually quite old music. I am looking forward to listening to Wakeman’s new one, and I thought the ARW live strand was far superior to the official Yes version.

Howe and Anderson will never work together again. Howe has barely suffered Jon since the financial fallout after the Tormato breakup of the band. ABWH was a fantastic effort, and should have been a springboard to a fine long term collaboration, but Anderson wanted Yes. Bruford had no interest in that beyond a money spinning tour, and that Union period put the final nail in the coffin of Anderson and Howe trusting each other. Howe loathes Anderson. End of.

Anyhow, I have no issue whatsoever in accepting it is over. I wish the Howe version would stop. I enjoy listening to past glories. I have more of an issue with older musicians trying, and failing, to revisit said past glories.

The past is the past. There is so much great new music out there, including some Yes members solo stuff. Let’s leave it at that.


I certainly agree that Heaven & Earth was weak, but why does that mean that a new album would be a bad idea? Could they not have learned something from how H & E was received, and make an effort to step up their game? They are sure taking their time, so maybe they are really holding off until they are sure they have a better album than the last one?

Wakeman's new album The Red Planet is fantastic, I highly recommend it.


I agree with Steve......Let's move on, the catalog is massive enough to keep anyone busy for quite a long time. A new album is never a "bad" idea, but a "bad" album is not a good idea. 
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

There may well be a new album from the Howe version of Yes. He has certainly spoken about it.

I don’t think it would be a good idea. Heaven & Earth was extremely ordinary.

As far as new stuff is concerned, I am enjoying 1000 Hands. Anderson is on good form, although much of it is actually quite old music. I am looking forward to listening to Wakeman’s new one, and I thought the ARW live strand was far superior to the official Yes version.

Howe and Anderson will never work together again. Howe has barely suffered Jon since the financial fallout after the Tormato breakup of the band. ABWH was a fantastic effort, and should have been a springboard to a fine long term collaboration, but Anderson wanted Yes. Bruford had no interest in that beyond a money spinning tour, and that Union period put the final nail in the coffin of Anderson and Howe trusting each other. Howe loathes Anderson. End of.

Anyhow, I have no issue whatsoever in accepting it is over. I wish the Howe version would stop. I enjoy listening to past glories. I have more of an issue with older musicians trying, and failing, to revisit said past glories.

The past is the past. There is so much great new music out there, including some Yes members solo stuff. Let’s leave it at that.


I certainly agree that Heaven & Earth was weak, but why does that mean that a new album would be a bad idea? Could they not have learned something from how H & E was received, and make an effort to step up their game? They are sure taking their time, so maybe they are really holding off until they are sure they have a better album than the last one?

Wakeman's new album The Red Planet is fantastic, I highly recommend it.


I agree with Steve......Let's move on, the catalog is massive enough to keep anyone busy for quite a long time. A new album is never a "bad" idea, but a "bad" album is not a good idea. 


Well, I do agree that no album is better than a "bad" album. What I want to see is of course a good album, a new album that will blow the last one out of the water.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

At this point who really cares? I say this as someone who used to be a super huge Yes fan(now I consider myself to be a moderate Yes fan only because they have gone downhill in the past 10-15 years or so). If Jon Anderson returns then we'll talk. 

Or how about this. A new band called Geneyes featuring Steve Howe, Jon Anderson, Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks and Phil Collins. LOL

Now that would really piss off Steve Hackett, lol. 
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I’m all for Nick Beggs for filling Squire’s shoes. He’s the main reason I appreciate Kajagoogoo.
But, Billy Sherwood is a great musician regardless. He did a fabulous job on Nektar’s Time Machine album, and his Prog Collective and Fusion Syndicate albums prove how good a musician he is. I’d love a new Yes album. And whilst I praise H&E, I know it’s nowhere the level of the classic run of albums (‘69 - ‘80).
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