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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The Prog Gods forbid that we get into another argument about prog. Wink

so I can't disagree with you, I forgot Mr Winking Paul.

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I don't think people are saying that Wilson's work is the greatest prog of all time, but since he is in most people's list, adding up the points, I guess he climbed up at the top of the list. 

I enjoy Gilmour's solo albums, especially the first two. 

BTW, I did not put Steven Wilson in my list. Big smile
Youīre wrong, there are 3 people who put him first in their list, then there are few others who put him second or third, maybe one vote in 10th place. Then rest didnīt put him list at all. So heīs voters mostly think heīs made greatest prog of all time as solo artist.

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I don't think people are saying that Wilson's work is the greatest prog of all time, but since he is in most people's list, adding up the points, I guess he climbed up at the top of the list. 

I enjoy Gilmour's solo albums, especially the first two. 

BTW, I did not put Steven Wilson in my list. Big smile
Youīre wrong, there are 3 people who put him first in their list, then there are few others who put him second or third, maybe one vote in 10th place. Then rest didnīt put him list at all. So heīs voters mostly think heīs made greatest prog of all time as solo artist.

could be also that he is a favorite rather than making greatest prog ever. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The Prog Gods forbid that we get into another argument about prog. Wink

so I can't disagree with you, I forgot Mr Winking Paul.

I'd be happy if you stopped using that emoticon when you interact with me. 

I'm pretty fed up with that emoticon as well.
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At least for me, I'm not that big fan of solo artists, tbh, which is why I've put SW solo carrer in the first position.

Pink Floyd is my favorite band, and I love David Gilmour, Roger Waters and Richard Wright solo carrer, but aside maybe from Broken China, I don't think their individual albums are that strong, even though I think David Gilmours as a vocalist and guitarrist is much better than SW's.

I enjoy a lot more band's work, such as Pink Floyd itself or even Porcupine Tree compared to SW solo carrer. (same for Genesis and etc)
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


I don't think people are saying that Wilson's work is the greatest prog of all time, but since he is in most people's list, adding up the points, I guess he climbed up at the top of the list. 

I enjoy Gilmour's solo albums, especially the first two. 

BTW, I did not put Steven Wilson in my list. Big smile
Youīre wrong, there are 3 people who put him first in their list, then there are few others who put him second or third, maybe one vote in 10th place. Then rest didnīt put him list at all. So heīs voters mostly think heīs made greatest prog of all time as solo artist.

could be also that he is a favorite rather than making greatest prog ever. 
True. I donīt think Beefheart is making prog at all, but really heīs my biggest fav of artists put as solo artists in PA. And I think Paul made this poll to put here fav artists. So no more wonder of the Wilson from me.
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I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
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Originally posted by Deadwing Deadwing wrote:

At least for me, I'm not that big fan of solo artists, tbh, 
Itīs really much same to me also! I havenīt heard many Genesis or Yes members solo albums, just because ones I have heard havenīt been even close to the greatness of bands albums. But I think I have heard almost all Floyd members albums, just because Floyd is so big to me. But have to say Pohjola & Gustavson solo albums rise really near of the greatness of Wigwamīs albums, so there are exceptions for me (I think all of those are in my list).
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Originally posted by Deadwing Deadwing wrote:

At least for me, I'm not that big fan of solo artists, tbh, which is why I've put SW solo carrer in the first position.

Pink Floyd is my favorite band, and I love David Gilmour, Roger Waters and Richard Wright solo carrer, but aside maybe from Broken China, I don't think their individual albums are that strong, even though I think David Gilmours as a vocalist and guitarrist is much better than SW's.

I enjoy a lot more band's work, such as Pink Floyd itself or even Porcupine Tree compared to SW solo carrer. (same for Genesis and etc)

I actually don't give a rat's arse whether an album is by a group or a solo artist. and there are many examples of excellent solo albums, like for example "Voyage of the Acolyte" by Steve Hackett, "Fish out of Water" by Chris Squire, "Olias of Sunhillow" by Jon Anderson, "Ruth is Stranger than Richard" by Robert Wyatt, "Dein Kopf ist ein schlafendes Auto" by Roman Bunka, "In Camera" by Peter Hammill or "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters" by Robert Calvert, to name but a few


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
I believe prog listeners prefer more bands than solo artists. If Harper would had been in some prog band, really I believe he would be much more listened than he is now. On the other hand I donīt think Ayers is very popular among proglisteners (not as popular as Wyatt), although been in Soft Machine.

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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
I believe prog listeners prefer more bands than solo artists. If Harper would had been in some prog band, really I believe he would be much more listened than he is now. On the other hand I donīt think Ayers is very popular among proglisteners (not as popular as Wyatt), although been in Soft Machine.


There are solo albums that are great indeed, but at least for me I enjoy a lot more a band's effort, which, even when there's someone which is the clear leader (Roger Waters, SW, etc), the contributions of others members still make big difference and gives the whole work a bigger sense of identity.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The Prog Gods forbid that we get into another argument about prog. Wink

so I can't disagree with you, I forgot Mr Winking Paul.

I'd be happy if you stopped using that emoticon when you interact with me. 
Has it really got to the point now that we disagree over which emoticons we use!??
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
I believe prog listeners prefer more bands than solo artists. If Harper would had been in some prog band, really I believe he would be much more listened than he is now. On the other hand I donīt think Ayers is very popular among proglisteners (not as popular as Wyatt), although been in Soft Machine.

very dubious. at least Friede and I don't think so


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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
I believe prog listeners prefer more bands than solo artists. If Harper would had been in some prog band, really I believe he would be much more listened than he is now. On the other hand I donīt think Ayers is very popular among proglisteners (not as popular as Wyatt), although been in Soft Machine.
 
I'm glad Mike Oldfield wasn't in a prog band. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
I believe prog listeners prefer more bands than solo artists. If Harper would had been in some prog band, really I believe he would be much more listened than he is now. On the other hand I donīt think Ayers is very popular among proglisteners (not as popular as Wyatt), although been in Soft Machine.
 
I'm glad Mike Oldfield wasn't in a prog band. Smile
Actually he was in a "prog" band before heīs solo career: he was in "Kevin Ayers & the Whole World" that recorded "Shooting at the Moon"-album. He was also in Ayers album "Whatevershebringswesing".

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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
I believe prog listeners prefer more bands than solo artists. If Harper would had been in some prog band, really I believe he would be much more listened than he is now. On the other hand I donīt think Ayers is very popular among proglisteners (not as popular as Wyatt), although been in Soft Machine.

very dubious. at least Friede and I don't think so
Well, look at the PA:s top 100 list. There are 3 albums by Frank Zappa, 3 by Miles Davis, 2 by Steven Wilson, 1 by Mike Oldfield, 1 by Peter Hammill, 1 by Robert Wyatt, 1 by Steve Hackett, 1 by Bill Cobham & 1 by Al Di Meola. Rest are bands. And that list comes mostly for the ratings from PA listeners.
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^ Thanks for reminding me. I'd forgotten Mike Oldfield was briefly a member of "Kevin Ayers & the Whole World". What I should have said is I'm glad Mike Oldfield didn't remain a member of a prog band. Smile
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I'm kind of surprised that solo artists better known as band members are doing so well, Hackett, Hammill, Wakeman Gilmour ahead of more pure solo artists.
I believe prog listeners prefer more bands than solo artists. If Harper would had been in some prog band, really I believe he would be much more listened than he is now. On the other hand I donīt think Ayers is very popular among proglisteners (not as popular as Wyatt), although been in Soft Machine.

very dubious. at least Friede and I don't think so
Well, look at the PA:s top 100 list. There are 3 albums by Frank Zappa, 3 by Miles Davis, 2 by Steven Wilson, 1 by Mike Oldfield, 1 by Peter Hammill, 1 by Robert Wyatt, 1 by Steve Hackett, 1 by Bill Cobham & 1 by Al Di Meola. Rest are bands. And that list comes mostly for the ratings from PA listeners.

and what exactly does that prove? in my opinion only that many people become aware of the names of many musicians first because they come across a band that they were in at some time. I know it was so with me. there was a band I liked, and when I became aware that some member of a band made a solo album I went and bought it too.

an indicator for that is that the two solo artists of whom there are 3 albums in the top 100 are not best known for being in a certain band but because of their solo work


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The Prog Gods forbid that we get into another argument about prog. Wink

so I can't disagree with you, I forgot Mr Winking Paul.

I'd be happy if you stopped using that emoticon when you interact with me. 
Has it really got to the point now that we disagree over which emoticons we use!??

I've asked you several times not use the winking emoticon. I know you ignore a lot of things I say, music I recommend, but just please do not use the winking emoticon when we interact. I don't think I am asking too much. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I love ALL of David Gilmour's solo albums and I have them all in my CD collection, including Live in Gdansk. Thumbs Up Heart
 
I've never heard any of Steven Wilson's solo albums, so it's no surprise that I'm surprised he's currently leading the poll, although not for long I suspect. Smile

As well as never hearing any Led Zeppelin, add Steven Wilson to your list LOL

Mike Oldfield is a big reason he is not popular here on lists, plus his one album big album is hit and miss for many, let alone trying to listen to everything up to Tubular Bells XII Wink (Wink Wink).....


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