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Lewian
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A further one that I'm not going to nominate, just to add some more German stuff after all the Italian delight. Actually this band, Kante, were together with Blumfeld leaders of what in the 1990s was called "new Hamburg school", although this song is quite different from the Blumfeld one posted earlier. New Hamburg school was a rather relaxed approach to music (here apparent in the singing, which is more typical for new Hamburg school than Jochen Distelmeyer's distinctive voice in Blumfeld) with focus on the often somewhat intellectual lyrics and message, often melodic (although that's Blumfeld and Kante more than the others), taking in influences from music such as post rock but also singer/songwriter style. Kante did more sophisticated arrangements than Blumfeld, whereas Blumfeld focused more on voice and lyrics, although Kante have some very melodic voice-oriented stuff as well. The somewhat sad personal background story to this one is that my girlfriend at the time and I were big fans of the previous Kante album Zweilicht. When this one came out, we heard it first on the radio independently of each other (there was a very similar but less sad story with another lady in an earlier poll). I thought that this is one of the very best love songs I ever heard, with very moving but still occasionally surprising and interesting lyrics, and I also fell for the melody and arrangement. When we met, however, she said (before I had talked about it) "have you heard the new Kante song? It doesn't tell me anything, I'm very disappointed". I was shocked and couldn't make sense of it, because of course I had thought of her when I had listened to it. I tried to ignore this in the following because obviously in a couple you don't have to love the same music. But still, it was hard to accept this. It turned out that actually it was the first indication that I remember that something wasn't quite right anymore between us; the relationship afterwards still went on for a few years from then but other things happened and emotionally the distance became bigger and bigger, eventually leading to separation. Music is important, and now I think it meant something that we disagreed so strongly on this song. I still think this is marvellous, but I don't connect it to anyone in particular anymore. And I'd say it has a very northern German feel. I was thinking about translating a few lines, but I don't manage to translate the more original and lyrical stuff so that it comes anywhere near making the same sense in English than in German. The title means "where the rivers sing" and they go on "I want to spend my time with you". This isn't that exciting, but there's also "I want to spend my time with you in the realm of the informal economy where the rumours circulate" and other weird stuff... hahaha, maybe that lady was right and it all doesn't make any sense. Edited by Lewian - July 30 2020 at 10:36 |
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Lewian
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Actually the great thing about this poll is that it makes me revisit all this music that I have that fits the bill. As I wrote earlier, it isn't that much, but I have a very strong emotional connection to every single one of these.
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Meltdowner
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My nomination is still "Jorge Palma - Estrela do Mar". I'm Samuel
(or Sam), by the way. I actually don't like my username anymore (it
sounded cool when I was 18), it always seems odd to be called by it I haven't had much time or energy for music lately, I hope I'll be able to at least hear the nominees this weekend.
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Snicolette
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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My nomination is Lluis Llach's L'Estaca, was it only for its historical significance, that still resonates today.
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
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Snicolette
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Thank you, both Samuel/Meltdowner and Suitkees. Duly updated and noted.
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Snicolette
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Lewian
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I think you pretty much nailed it, except that there are allusions and double meanings and many words are unusual even in German and usually the strange use means something. Do you know some German? (Haha, and I said I'm not interested in lyrics... but partly that's true. I'd love the song for the music and sound alone as well.)
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Nickie, I was hoping in your opinion about my nominations.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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TCat
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Again, it's tough for me to decide which one I want to use for voting. I like them all.
I think I'll go with Fred Eaglesmith - "Soda Machine"
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Lewian
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mathman: Mark Etzel is my winner among yours. Very nice and atmospheric, the other two rather sound as if I heard much of that stuff already (ignoring lyrics of course). Meltdowner: Estrelo dol Mar is very good and dreamy; Ja chega de ilusoes is a bit of a mess, no? jamesbaldwin: Francesco de Gregorio: Inventive and surprising, but the turn this takes in the second half isn't my cup of tea. The song of Ivano Fossati works much better for me, very emotional and well balanced between calm verse and more energetic chorus. John Hiatt's song is much more predictable than the Italians, so Fossati is the clear winner here. Carmen Consoli: This isn't exactly an instant winner for me, but at least makes me curious of her other work. There's too much stuff in life, probably I have no chance to get through them all before the poll begins. |
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Lewian
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I think I'll stick to my first nomination, Sufjan Stevens - Should Have Known Better.
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Lewian
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TCat: Can't watch your Ariel Ramirez video, but this one works for me: Actually that's my number one of yours, I like the relaxed mood.
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Snicolette
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My choice for this will be Richard Shindell, but I want to give you alternates of all three of my picks, this time. This is another serious song, by Richard Shindell it fought hard against "Wisteria," to be what I brought of his this time. This is "You Stay Here"
A story of someone I think we all have known, from John Gorka, "The Sentinel" Lastly, how Todd Snider broke into the big time. A great homage to Bob Dylan, too. "Talking Seattle Grunge Rock Blues""
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Cristi
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if Nick Drake is taken, does Frankie Miller fit the bill?
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Meltdowner
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a few words, he gives up his youthful dreams to try to fit in an
oppresive society but at this point he's tired of illusions (as the
title says) and he's angry at society and himself, about how it shaped
his life and how foolish it was to believe in their old-fashioned ways. I guess getting into this album when I was realizing that myself made me connect with it even more.
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