Interactive Poll XIII - Surprise, surprise

Logan wrote: One might say that such coincidences are bound to happen, and, say for the conspiracy theorists, the more one looks for certain patterns the more one will be prone to confirmation bias. Last night I watched a program on Donald Trump and conspiracy theories on CNN. I used to be convinced that I had ESP, and I remember our talks about coincidences and other strange things. "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). And by a not coincidence, I played Hamlet in a play called Haunted House Hamlet.   I liked to fancifully tell the story that I wore a codpiece made of real cod when playing Hamlet, but it died and fell off as I failed to water it, and I should have gone with, say, a blowfishpiece or a suckerfishpiece.

Back when this album came out I was anticipating it greatly and I was so excited the first time that I heard this was when it was played on the radio.  I couldn't believe how heavy it was.  Anyhow, nothing that most in this thread will appreciate, but it meets the goal of surprising me.

Edited by rushfan4 - July 21 2020 at 15:30

that's interesting.. the more so outside the lines of prog where the whole name of the proggame is discovery and finding those surprises

you go darling ..  yeah... perhaps in another 10 years you'll post your favorite Willie Nelson song hahah

Here was a surprise to me.  I did not expect to hear this when I first heard this, as it is on a recording by Robbie Robertson & The Red Road Ensemble, Music for the Native Americans.  I find it just hypnotic and gorgeous.  Although I knew the premise of the LP before hearing it, I expected to hear Robbie Robertson, pretty much.  This is actually an all female Native American group, Ulali, performing Mahk Jchi, who guested on his album.

This one, which is made by a British musician/ comedic actor (I like a lot of his music and shows he has worked in), initially surprised me when I first heard certain vocals come in at 2:45 --please play from earlier (with questionable lyrics).



This is my favourite track off the album, by the way (tres proggy):



Edited by Logan - July 21 2020 at 16:51

Lewian wrote: Özgür, have a good time! You're always welcome!

Thanks man!

before I dive back into what everyone has posted so far...

Edited by micky - July 21 2020 at 17:03

Snicolette wrote: Logan wrote: One might say that such coincidences are bound to happen, and, say for the conspiracy theorists, the more one looks for certain patterns the more one will be prone to confirmation bias. Last night I watched a program on Donald Trump and conspiracy theories on CNN. I used to be convinced that I had ESP, and I remember our talks about coincidences and other strange things. "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). And by a not coincidence, I played Hamlet in a play called Haunted House Hamlet.   I liked to fancifully tell the story that I wore a codpiece made of real cod when playing Hamlet, but it died and fell off as I failed to water it, and I should have gone with, say, a blowfishpiece or a suckerfishpiece. I had mentioned elsewhere (not here, elsewhere, but another site entirely), that I feel that the people who are not protesting peacefully in Portland, are indirectly responsible for 45 feeling he can get away with bringing in the Feds without a by-your-leave from local and state government.  Or, maybe directly, as in being supporters who have come in to discredit the peaceful protesters, and therefore more or less in cahoots with 45.  I do tend to try to avoid that kind of thinking and prefer to consider what one can do to counteract what one disagrees with (ie peaceful protest, or at least, at my age and abilities, being supportive of such peaceful protest). That is hilarious, about the codpiece.  When I lived in Santa Cruz, they used to put on the Miss California pageant every year.  A peaceful protest began where, in a parade, women wore elabourate costumes made of meat (long before Lady Gaga thought of it). The Myth Kalifornia march had Ann Simonton at it's forefront.  Here's an article from the local entertainment paper about it, in 1986.  https://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/the-f-word/

A very interesting point about 45. In the documentary it was all about how 45 has appealed to, perpetuated and cited conspiracy theorists (such as Alex Jones), and propagated conspiracy "theories" (I use theory in a non-scientific sense). It's sad how easily people can be manipulated, deceived, have negative biases reinforced, and how utterly irrational people can be.I do in part blame the education system for not putting enough emphasis on teaching children how to think critically. As is often said, a good teacher doesn't teach what to think but how to think. Questioning is often not encouraged, and certain parents and lobbyist and special interest groups make it harder for the teachers who do wish to expose the students to things such as rational scientific inquiry and principles of reason generally (and epistemology generally). But I speak as something of a cod philosopher, codpiece and all.

I remember hearing about the meat dress, and have had issues with beauty pageants myself -- PETA would have preferred tofurkey or some such thing (a Vegan protest). Women, burn your meat bras. I like my brassieres well-braised. I'm glad that no one let the dogs out "Woof, woof, woof" (unless I missed that bit), that would spell trouble. An interesting link (to the article, not to the links of sausages I mean), which I have only skimmed so far.

Edited by Logan - July 21 2020 at 17:19