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    Posted: July 03 2020 at 16:56
Yes, it's another Yes album thread, but I just wanted to show some love and give a well-deserved mention for my favourite Yes album "The Ladder" (1999). It's the only Yes album to feature the six-piece line-up of Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Alan White, Billy Sherwood and Igor Khoroshev. It's the 18th Yes studio album and represents a real return to creative form for the band. I've only recently discovered this superb album after hearing some of the songs from the album on a 2-CD Live compilation:- "Yes: The Collection" (shown below), which also comes highly recommended. I hope all of the many Yes fans here enjoy "The Ladder" album just as much as I do, and if you haven't already had the opportunity to listen to the album before, you can check it out below. Smile Heart
 
 
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1. Homeworld (The Ladder)
 
 
2. It Will Be a Good Day (The River)
 
 
3. Lightning Strikes
 
 
4. Can I?
 
 
5. Face to Face
 
 
6. If Only You Knew
 
 
7. To Be Alive (Hep Yadda)
 
 
8. Finally
 
 
9. The Messenger
 
 
10. New Language
 
 
11. Nine Voices (Longwalker)
 


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When I think of The Ladder, Homeworld and New Language come to mind, but this is a solid Yes album overall.
And whatever happened to Igor ?? Didn’t he do something unforgivably stupid ??
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

When I think of The Ladder, Homeworld and New Language come to mind, but this is a solid Yes album overall.
And whatever happened to Igor ?? Didn’t he do something unforgivably stupid ??
 
Yes, I read somewhere that he got involved in an altercation with two female security guards during a Yes tour, which is probably the reason why his time with the band was short-lived. Smile
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His playing style and (most) choices of his sounds fit Yes well.
I actually thought he hooked-up with some underage groupie ??
Should look that up...

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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

His playing style and (most) choices of his sounds fit Yes well.
I actually thought he hooked-up with some underage groupie ??
Should look that up...

No, Psych Paul is pretty close. I heard it was one female security guard and more like sexual harassment though. I don't know all the details but I do know it was the main reason(maybe only)that he was let go from the band.

Hooking up with underage groupies was Andy Summers from the Police. Maybe you read his autobiography but forgot who wrote it. LOL


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

His playing style and (most) choices of his sounds fit Yes well.
I actually thought he hooked-up with some underage groupie ??
Should look that up...


No, Psych Paul is pretty close. I heard it was one female security guard and more like sexual harassment though. I don't know all the details but I do know it was the main reason(maybe only)that he was let go from the band.

Hooking up with underage groupies was Andy Summers from the Police. Maybe you read his autobiography but forgot who wrote it. LOL

O.K. Thanks for clarifying. That’s a shame.
No, I haven’t read much about Andy Summers, but I guess many dudes in bands hook-up with young chicks (who probably look older than they are......)
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^Actually, I just read that part on wikipedia and it turns out psych Paul was right about it being two female security guards. Here's what it says about that on wiki: "Khoroshev left Yes after their Masterworks Tour, following an incident involving two female security guards on that tour, Khoroshev was charged with assault and battery and sexual battery,[1] although the matter was later settled out of court."
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

His playing style and (most) choices of his sounds fit Yes well.
I actually thought he hooked-up with some underage groupie ??
Should look that up...


No, Psych Paul is pretty close. I heard it was one female security guard and more like sexual harassment though. I don't know all the details but I do know it was the main reason(maybe only)that he was let go from the band.

Hooking up with underage groupies was Andy Summers from the Police. Maybe you read his autobiography but forgot who wrote it. LOL

O.K. Thanks for clarifying. That’s a shame.
No, I haven’t read much about Andy Summers, but I guess many dudes in bands hook-up with young chicks (who probably look older than they are......)

One of the most notorious was Jimmy Page and Lori Maddox who was 16 at the time he met her. Apparently he kidnapped her or something. I don't really know the whole story but what I read seemed rather weird if you ask me.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Actually, I just read that part on wikipedia and it turns out psych Paul was right about it being two female security guards. Here's what it says about that on wiki: "<span style="color: rgb32, 33, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Khoroshev left Yes after their Masterworks Tour, following an incident involving two female security guards on that tour, Khoroshev was charged with assault and battery and sexual battery,</span><sup id="cite_ref-1" ="reference" style="line-height: 1; unicode-bidi: isolate; white-space: nowrap; font-size: 11.2px; color: rgb32, 33, 34; font-family: sans-serif;">[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Khoroshev#cite_note-1" rel="nofollow][1][/URL]<span style="color: rgb32, 33, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> although the matter was later settled out of court."</span>
He sounds like a right douche for that. Thought he could handle his Vodka.
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The first time I saw Yes play live was on that tour. I remember them playing some of TFTO and thinking this was a lot better than I expected. It was a good line up. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The first time I saw Yes play live was on that tour. I remember them playing some of TFTO and thinking this was a lot better than I expected. It was a good line up. 
 
I was pleasantly surprised too. I never expected a Yes album from 1999 to sound just as good as - if not better than - some of their classic albums from the early 1970's era. Heart
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The first time I saw Yes play live was on that tour. I remember them playing some of TFTO and thinking this was a lot better than I expected. It was a good line up. 
 
I was pleasantly surprised too. I never expected a Yes album from 1999 to sound just as good as - if not better than - some of their classic albums from the early 1970's era. Heart

I think richardh is talking about the line-up and Ladder tour, he's not praising the album.
And no, The Ladder does not come close to any 70s albums. Not even the 80s ones. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The first time I saw Yes play live was on that tour. I remember them playing some of TFTO and thinking this was a lot better than I expected. It was a good line up. 
 
I was pleasantly surprised too. I never expected a Yes album from 1999 to sound just as good as - if not better than - some of their classic albums from the early 1970's era. Heart

I think richardh is talking about the line-up and Ladder tour, he's not praising the album.
And no, The Ladder does not come close to any 70s albums. Not even the 80s ones. 
Oh well, I can't please everyone all of the time and you're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your post anyway. Thumbs Up Heart
 
"The Ladder" is still my favourite Yes album (but only since yesterday) despite what anyone else says about the album. It's much better than the "Relayer" album (in my opinion). Smile


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The first time I saw Yes play live was on that tour. I remember them playing some of TFTO and thinking this was a lot better than I expected. It was a good line up. 
 
I was pleasantly surprised too. I never expected a Yes album from 1999 to sound just as good as - if not better than - some of their classic albums from the early 1970's era. Heart

I think richardh is talking about the line-up and Ladder tour, he's not praising the album.
And no, The Ladder does not come close to any 70s albums. Not even the 80s ones. 
Oh well, I can't please everyone all of the time and you're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your post anyway. Thumbs Up Heart

Why are you even trying to please people, we all have different opinions and tastes, we can't agree on anything and it's fine.

I've always been surprised how little love the Banks albums get here. Confused
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What's wrong with trying to please people? Smile
 
Talking of "Banks", I'll have a Tony Banks albums thread coming up just as soon as I've listened to all of his albums. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

What's wrong with trying to please people? Smile
 
Talking of "Banks", I'll have a Tony Banks albums thread coming up just as soon as I've listened to all of his albums. Smile

I was talking about Peter Banks and early Yes. 
You're not paying attention. LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

What's wrong with trying to please people? Smile
 
Talking of "Banks", I'll have a Tony Banks albums thread coming up just as soon as I've listened to all of his albums. Smile

I was talking about Peter Banks and early Yes. 
You're not paying attention. LOL
I knew you were talking about Peter Banks. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

What's wrong with trying to please people? Smile
 
Talking of "Banks", I'll have a Tony Banks albums thread coming up just as soon as I've listened to all of his albums. Smile

I was talking about Peter Banks and early Yes. 
You're not paying attention. LOL
I knew you were talking about Peter Banks. Wink

why talk about Tony Banks in a Yes thread? Confused
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^^ Because when you mentioned "Banks", you reminded me that I had a Tony Banks thread coming up soon. Smile
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