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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

A couple of old psychedelic soul classics come to mind (the full album versions):

Chamber Brothers "Time Has Come Today"
The Temptations "Papa Was a Rolling Stone"

We must also mention Isaac Hayes' covers of Walk On By and By The Time I Get To Phoenix (18m!) on Hot Buttered Soul.

Edited by Mascodagama - June 30 2020 at 11:03
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How about Hotel California?
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...
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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Type-O Negative kind of mastered the non-prog epic.

At over 11 minutes, my favorite is still the album version of Black No. 1.


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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...


Are you saying...you can never leave?

As far as that album goes, I think "The Last Resort" constitutes an epic. But of all their work, "Journey of the Sorcerer" is kind of the lunch snack of epics.

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Not quite 10 minutes, but my go-to for these prog/not prog conversations:



From the same band...


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


There are some here and there..

Neil Young -Cowgirl In The Sand
Grand Funk- I'm Your Captain
The Doors- The End, When The Music's Over..
Butterfield Blues Band- East West 
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I disagree about The Doors.

Hi,

As do I ... they helped bring about and define what we call "progressive music" ... 

Listing some of this stuff is just insane and amazing ... some folks have no idea how valuable and important the expression of these early acts was, and how it helped "progressive music" become so important ... unless of course, the only thing that some folks can think is the stupid design of keyboard, drums, guitar and bass ... and of course a lousy singer that "defines" progressive music!
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I think that 'Papa Was a Rolling Stone' is superb, especially the killer of a bass line. 

Isaac Hayes did some long tracks which were quite epic  ' Do Your Thing '  took up a whole side of the original double album of the 'Shaft ' soundtrack. 

Rare Earth's version of 'Get Ready' also took up the whole side of an album, with the respective members of the band taking it in turns to showcase their own playing. 

EDIT Just seen that Isaac Hayes has already been mentioned in this discussion ! 

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

A couple of old psychedelic soul classics come to mind (the full album versions):

Chamber Brothers "Time Has Come Today"
The Temptations "Papa Was a Rolling Stone"



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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...

IndeedyLOL
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Loggins & Messina had some tracks that were close to folk prog. This is a great example for this thread.   

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Another awesome example of what OP is asking for. Joe Walsh’s “Decades” is over 12 minutes with a lot of what makes an epic prog song epic (without being prog). I highly recommend listening to it all.

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some fave examples








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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...


Are you saying...you can never leave?

As far as that album goes, I think "The Last Resort" constitutes an epic. But of all their work, "Journey of the Sorcerer" is kind of the lunch snack of epics.
Aaargh.

Nice take on Journey of the Sorceror, which was my favourite Eagles track long before I knew what it was or who the Eagles were (because it was the theme music to the original BBC radio production of The Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy, which I listened to with my dad as a small boy).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tapfret Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 19:07
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...


Are you saying...you can never leave?

As far as that album goes, I think "The Last Resort" constitutes an epic. But of all their work, "Journey of the Sorcerer" is kind of the lunch snack of epics.
Aaargh.

Nice take on Journey of the Sorceror, which was my favourite Eagles track long before I knew what it was or who the Eagles were (because it was the theme music to the original BBC radio production of The Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy, which I listened to with my dad as a small boy).


Yup. PBS rebroadcast the BBC miniseries. I didnt know who wrote it at the time either.
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Although this has symphonic elements(the choral part) I can't see anyone thinking of this as prog. Still a great song though.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Layla with it's tacked on piano coda?

Not sure whether I agree with you being "tacked on". To me it's the perfect finish to the song.
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

some fave examples



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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Layla with it's tacked on piano coda?

Not sure whether I agree with you being "tacked on". To me it's the perfect finish to the song.

I think the coda is actually longer than the first part of the song, makes one wonder if the searing riffs and vocals at the beginning weren't the part that got "tacked on." lol
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