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10cc have been called everything, I think they are just a great band and this track is wonderful.


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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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yep but they were never prog

kinda are, because they experimented sometimes, especially in the 90s, went beyond the verse chorus verse, rely on atmosphere. 
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yep but they were never prog
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Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

I can add one of my favorite 20 minute epics, Everything Under The Sun by Extreme.


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Oasis - All Around the World. xD
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

There's a lot of classic rock and jam band songs(Allman Brothers and Grateful Dead for example)that are over ten minutes long. My time of dying by Led Zeppelin is ten minutes long. I doubt many people would say that's prog. Tongue Probably the most famous example I can think of though is "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly. It's 20 minutes long but usually considered psych and not prog(not even really proto prog imo).

"In my Time of Dying" and "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" are in my opinion full fledged prog songs.

Prob proto prog/early psych prog?

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IF we stop looking at these things as just "songs", then history shows us something else ... that some of these things were more important and valuable than we give them credit for ... and this was the case with THE DOORS. 

Nowadays it's all "songs" and everything is "the same" because the folks listening do not see, or care to even understand, how valuable and important some of these things were ... I mean, Miles, these days, is FINALLY getting some of the appreciation he deserved that he was not getting then! 

The problem is, that a lot of these things are NOT ... just "songs" ... but we have to bring it down to the valueless (and clue-less) area of "songs" where everything has to be the same ... and a lot of these things ARE NOT THE SAME, and never were intended to be! In many cases, the idea was TO BE DIFFERENT ... but in a "song" like format/idea, this can not happen and it is not, in the minds of many folks!
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I probably mentioned it a lot on another thread but this 24 minute suite is somewhere between Dream Pop and 70's Prog.

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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Not quite 10 minutes, but Green Day's Jesus Of Suburbia has a very low chance of being called prog on this website despite being part of a concept album and having multiple distinct movements.
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

There's a lot of classic rock and jam band songs(Allman Brothers and Grateful Dead for example)that are over ten minutes long. My time of dying by Led Zeppelin is ten minutes long. I doubt many people would say that's prog. Tongue Probably the most famous example I can think of though is "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly. It's 20 minutes long but usually considered psych and not prog(not even really proto prog imo).

"In my Time of Dying" and "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" are in my opinion full fledged prog songs.

Prob proto prog/early psych prog?

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A tadge just under 10 mins, but this classic:


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Good call on Type O Negative! What an amazing band!

I can add one of my favorite 20 minute epics, Everything Under The Sun by Extreme.

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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Layla with it's tacked on piano coda?

Not sure whether I agree with you being "tacked on". To me it's the perfect finish to the song.

I think the coda is actually longer than the first part of the song, makes one wonder if the searing riffs and vocals at the beginning weren't the part that got "tacked on." lol
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

some fave examples



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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Layla with it's tacked on piano coda?

Not sure whether I agree with you being "tacked on". To me it's the perfect finish to the song.
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Although this has symphonic elements(the choral part) I can't see anyone thinking of this as prog. Still a great song though.

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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...


Are you saying...you can never leave?

As far as that album goes, I think "The Last Resort" constitutes an epic. But of all their work, "Journey of the Sorcerer" is kind of the lunch snack of epics.
Aaargh.

Nice take on Journey of the Sorceror, which was my favourite Eagles track long before I knew what it was or who the Eagles were (because it was the theme music to the original BBC radio production of The Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy, which I listened to with my dad as a small boy).


Yup. PBS rebroadcast the BBC miniseries. I didnt know who wrote it at the time either.
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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...


Are you saying...you can never leave?

As far as that album goes, I think "The Last Resort" constitutes an epic. But of all their work, "Journey of the Sorcerer" is kind of the lunch snack of epics.
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Nice take on Journey of the Sorceror, which was my favourite Eagles track long before I knew what it was or who the Eagles were (because it was the theme music to the original BBC radio production of The Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy, which I listened to with my dad as a small boy).
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some fave examples








me likes long songs
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