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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote POTA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 16:06
Another awesome example of what OP is asking for. Joe Walsh’s “Decades” is over 12 minutes with a lot of what makes an epic prog song epic (without being prog). I highly recommend listening to it all.

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Loggins & Messina had some tracks that were close to folk prog. This is a great example for this thread.   

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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Droxford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 14:14

I think that 'Papa Was a Rolling Stone' is superb, especially the killer of a bass line. 

Isaac Hayes did some long tracks which were quite epic  ' Do Your Thing '  took up a whole side of the original double album of the 'Shaft ' soundtrack. 

Rare Earth's version of 'Get Ready' also took up the whole side of an album, with the respective members of the band taking it in turns to showcase their own playing. 

EDIT Just seen that Isaac Hayes has already been mentioned in this discussion ! 

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

A couple of old psychedelic soul classics come to mind (the full album versions):

Chamber Brothers "Time Has Come Today"
The Temptations "Papa Was a Rolling Stone"



Edited by Droxford - June 30 2020 at 14:17
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


There are some here and there..

Neil Young -Cowgirl In The Sand
Grand Funk- I'm Your Captain
The Doors- The End, When The Music's Over..
Butterfield Blues Band- East West 
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I disagree about The Doors.

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As do I ... they helped bring about and define what we call "progressive music" ... 

Listing some of this stuff is just insane and amazing ... some folks have no idea how valuable and important the expression of these early acts was, and how it helped "progressive music" become so important ... unless of course, the only thing that some folks can think is the stupid design of keyboard, drums, guitar and bass ... and of course a lousy singer that "defines" progressive music!
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Not quite 10 minutes, but my go-to for these prog/not prog conversations:



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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...


Are you saying...you can never leave?

As far as that album goes, I think "The Last Resort" constitutes an epic. But of all their work, "Journey of the Sorcerer" is kind of the lunch snack of epics.

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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Type-O Negative kind of mastered the non-prog epic.

At over 11 minutes, my favorite is still the album version of Black No. 1.


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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

How about Hotel California?
It's only six and a half minutes. Though after the 1,000th time you've heard it, it can seem to drag on forever...
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How about Hotel California?
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

A couple of old psychedelic soul classics come to mind (the full album versions):

Chamber Brothers "Time Has Come Today"
The Temptations "Papa Was a Rolling Stone"

We must also mention Isaac Hayes' covers of Walk On By and By The Time I Get To Phoenix (18m!) on Hot Buttered Soul.

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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


There are some here and there..

Neil Young -Cowgirl In The Sand
Grand Funk- I'm Your Captain
The Doors- The End, When The Music's Over..
Butterfield Blues Band- East West 
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I disagree about The Doors.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

There's a lot of classic rock and jam band songs(Allman Brothers and Grateful Dead for example)that are over ten minutes long. My time of dying by Led Zeppelin is ten minutes long. I doubt many people would say that's prog. Tongue Probably the most famous example I can think of though is "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly. It's 20 minutes long but usually considered psych and not prog(not even really proto prog imo).

"In my Time of Dying" and "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" are in my opinion full fledged prog songs.


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Not quite 10 minutes, but Green Day's Jesus Of Suburbia has a very low chance of being called prog on this website despite being part of a concept album and having multiple distinct movements.
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Grateful Dead - Terrapin .... a 16 minute, multi-part suite which many consider the most progressive track they did and it wasn't even a jam really.

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Type-O Negative kind of mastered the non-prog epic.

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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


There are some here and there..

Neil Young -Cowgirl In The Sand
Grand Funk- I'm Your Captain
The Doors- The End, When The Music's Over..
Butterfield Blues Band- East West 
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Great choices! Thumbs Up
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Easy:

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There are some here and there..

Neil Young -Cowgirl In The Sand
Grand Funk- I'm Your Captain
The Doors- The End, When The Music's Over..
Butterfield Blues Band- East West 
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Madness: the Liberty of Norton Folgate title track of their 2009 album is > 10 mins long and plots the history of how immigration has shaped London's multiculture in an entirely positive way. It's also split into disparate sections where the musical style changes. Brilliant yes, but Prog? Nah

the Damned Curtain Call from 1980s the Black Album is > 17 mins long and also consists of contrasting sections that range from Gothic crooner ballad, faux classical bravura to aggressive Punky irreverence.
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