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SteveG 
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 Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:09 |
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 Still, nothing's better than the Trump toilet brush for laughs! |
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Shadowyzard
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:12 |
SteveG wrote:
Still, nothing's better than the Trump toilet brush for laughs! |
In the toilet brush thing, it gives the message that he cleans the sh*t out of your country. In the image I shared, it seems to mean "Trump rocks!". So I think they don't symbolize anything desirable for anti-Trumpers in these two. 
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SteveG
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:14 |
^ I'm not sure how sticking Trump's head in a toilet sends that message! 
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SteveG
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:20 |
 How do you put this artifact into the pro Trump category?
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Shadowyzard
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:20 |
His magic hair, dude. It is magical and doesn't hold sh*t. 
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Shadowyzard
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:21 |
SteveG wrote:
How do you put this artifact into the pro Trump category? |
Ah this one and horse sh*t one are on point. The toilet paper also kisses your ass. So that's even better.
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SteveG
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:58 |
Yeah, I'm going to miss all these Trump gags when he's gone!
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 13:08 |
Saw a new anti-Biden ad last night highlighting his best mumbling, bumbling, dribbling & drowsing moments.
Oh it's good.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 13:29 |
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The debates are going to be a cringe marathon. The worst thing to happen on TV since Heidi pre-empted the super bowl.
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Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446
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Hercules
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 13:47 |
As a Brit, I find it extremely hard to be thankful that we have a buffoon like Boris Jjohnson as our leader. But then I look at the US and thank my lucky stars. Trump's sheer awfulness beggars belief that any country could have enough stupid people to elect him.
But what really baffles me is the American obsession with the flag and the National Anthem.
I would no more sing God Save the Queen than eat a baby and I certainly don't stand when it's played: such icons belong to a past era (though I'm pleased the Queen is going to be saved, and God's probably the person to do it). Nor does the Union Jack instil any pride in me at all.
Yet in the US, disrespecting the flag is treated as on a parallel with mass murder. I'd have thought that, for a country with one of the highest homicide rates in the developed world, there were more important crimes to worry about.
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Hercules
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 13:49 |
Atavachron wrote:
Saw a new anti-Biden ad last night highlighting his best mumbling, bumbling, dribbling & drowsing moments.
Oh it's good.
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I'd rather watch Biden mumbling, bumbling, and dribbling any day than watch Trump telling bare faced lies and being obnoxious.
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 14:20 |
Hercules wrote:
As a Brit, I find it extremely hard to be thankful that we have a buffoon like Boris Jjohnson as our leader.But then I look at the US and thank my lucky stars. Trump's sheer awfulness beggars belief that any country could have enough stupid people to elect him.
But what really baffles me is the American obsession with the flag and the National Anthem.
I would no more sing God Save the Queen than eat a baby and I certainly don't stand when it's played: such icons belong to a past era (though I'm pleased the Queen is going to be saved, and God's probably the person to do it). Nor does the Union Jack instil any pride in me at all.
Yet in the US, disrespecting the flag is treated as on a parallel with mass murder. I'd have thought that, for a country with one of the highest homicide rates in the developed world, there were more important crimes to worry about. |
this obsession with the flag and the anthem is confusing the dish with the menu
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 A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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npjnpj
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 17:13 |
Just a quick word about the confederate flags and statues. I know about the argument concerning American history etc., but I can't for the life of me understand why they're still there. Descriptive history is in books, not in monuments.
Imagine a world where Germany, in the year 2020, would be thinking about taking statues of Hitler, Goering, and Goebbels down, and additionally debating whether to stop flying the Swastika on public buildings.
It beggars belief.
Edited by npjnpj - June 25 2020 at 17:15
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 17:28 |
Hercules wrote:
As a Brit, I find it extremely hard to be thankful that we have a buffoon like Boris Jjohnson as our leader. But then I look at the US and thank my lucky stars. Trump's sheer awfulness beggars belief that any country could have enough stupid people to elect him.
But what really baffles me is the American obsession with the flag and the National Anthem. I would no more sing God Save the Queen than eat a baby and I certainly don't stand when it's played: such icons belong to a past era (though I'm pleased the Queen is going to be saved, and God's probably the person to do it). Nor does the Union Jack instil any pride in me at all. |
Johnson is a raving idiot. The main difference is that Johnson's IQ is higher than Trump's and he has a modicum of humanity, but his judgement & politics are about as bad.
America has no 'past era' compared to Europe. Our past spans the last 250 odd years, a drop in the bucket. And you can't tell me a large number of Canucks don't get weepy when they hear Oh,Canada. Heck, I get weepy when I hear it.
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
But she doesn't have a lot to say
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
But she changes from day to day
I wanna tell her that I love her a lot
But I gotta get a belly full of wine
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
Someday I'm gonna make her mine, oh yeah
Someday I'm gonna make her mine
Edited by Atavachron - June 25 2020 at 17:31
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 17:33 |
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Nobody is asking or requesting that you understand the American flag or the national anthem. What I don't understand is everyone's desire to...understand it.
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npjnpj
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 17:59 |
Because it seems like a deliberate distraction to keep Americans from looking to where the real action is. People dying of a plague? Sing a national anthem. Soldiers being killed in the Middle East: Salute a flag. Trump f*cked something up again: Ooh look: two UFOs. The only function I can see is that whenever anything turns up that could make people feel bad, worried, or just plain puzzled: Let's sing about how great we all are and it'll all go away, just like the COVID deaths and infections. No substance, just feelgood fodder.
It wasn't like that before; it was a noble thing, but not any more, as far as I can see.
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rushfan4
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 19:25 |
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While I agree with you 100%, the flag and the National Anthem are important for what they symbolize. We are the "Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free" and that is what they symbolize. Our soldiers are trained to give their lives to protect this flag and what it symbolizes. Honestly, I think of it as a really good job of brainwashing but Americans are all about rooting for our teams and rah rah America is our team. It really isn't much different to the horror certain people feel when people burn a bible or a Koran. It is just a book...a set of papers that are bound together with words on them that can be found in every hotel room bedroom in America, but "heaven forbid" someone desecrate this book. Again it is about what it symbolizes...and again it is the result of a history of brainwashing passed down from generation to generation.
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npjnpj
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 19:31 |
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Point taken
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 23:24 |
npjnpj wrote:
Because it seems like a deliberate distraction to keep Americans from looking to where the real action is. People dying of a plague? Sing a national anthem. Soldiers being killed in the Middle East: Salute a flag. Trump f*cked something up again: Ooh look: two UFOs. The only function I can see is that whenever anything turns up that could make people feel bad, worried, or just plain puzzled: Let's sing about how great we all are and it'll all go away, just like the COVID deaths and infections. No substance, just feelgood fodder.
It wasn't like that before; it was a noble thing, but not any more, as far as I can see.
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You lose me by bringing in the current administration, which has nothing to do with your premise. Every administration has used the flag and anthem as a vehicle to pump up the nation, especially when tragedy happens. I would have no issue saying that you would be hard pressed to find a US soldier who does not fight for the flag....call it loyalty, service, duty, honor and unless you've done it you can't comprehend it. If we really thought singing the anthem would make C19 go away, then that's all that would be on TV 24/7.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 25 2020 at 23:42 |
rushfan4 wrote:
While I agree with you 100%, the flag and the National Anthem are important for what they symbolize. We are the "Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free" and that is what they symbolize. Our soldiers are trained to give their lives to protect this flag and what it symbolizes. Honestly, I think of it as a really good job of brainwashing but Americans are all about rooting for our teams and rah rah America is our team. It really isn't much different to the horror certain people feel when people burn a bible or a Koran. It is just a book...a set of papers that are bound together with words on them that can be found in every hotel room bedroom in America, but "heaven forbid" someone desecrate this book. Again it is about what it symbolizes...and again it is the result of a history of brainwashing passed down from generation to generation. |
If only people would actually be in love with the things it symbolizes instead of the actual symbol.
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