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Poll Question: what floats ya boat man...
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It's very difficult choose three songs from this list. this Is the First time that I am undecided between a lot of songs.

And Einaudi's composition Is One of the simpler. I like It for his pathos, for his emotional content but I recognize his simplicity.

Charles Ives' piece, instead, Is classical music. That Song Is far from pop or rock or jazz. It',s near to Bartok.

I love Ravi Shankar's daughter, and love The Allman',s Brothers, very good southern rock.

As Always, It Is the First time I listen to a lot of artists.

I like very much Alice Cooper's piece, and even if I am not a Benson' s fan, his piece Is very good.

So I could choose my top three from these artists ... Buy I prefer to choose, in this case, from the ones I never heard.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2020 at 13:45
This is the hardest ever. All of them are good, there's not a single one I don't like - but then none of them stands clearly out in the first go (actually Michael Hedges does, embarrassingly, because he isn't in the competition; didn't know him, awesome stuff). Different from others, my rule is to vote for what I like most, regardless of whether I know the song or the artist (I know quite a few this time). Stupid me, ruling some out for formal reasons would help with the decision...  but no, not doing it.


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Many things I have never heard before....for me some very out there music....

1.Kaleidoscope - Taxim
2.Tokyo Groove Jyoshi - What is Hip?
3.Anoushka Shankar and Patricia Kopatchinskaja - Raga Piloo
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

I hope this qualifies because it has about 20 seconds of spoken words, it's not by the vocalist of the band.
The music is still great though, the band is called Meta Meta.

 
 
Before I voted, I figured there might be a few more posts that would come along.
 
I really like this, it has everything I like about latin jazz in it.  I don't know if it will qualify, we'll leave that up to Mick.  If it does, I will have to figure out if it belongs in my top 3.  Excellent post either way.
 
They are one hell of a band. Mixing latin influences, jazz, rock and excellent vocals! Definitely would appeal to prog fans since the music is very fun and interesting.

Try another song and if you like it you can download the album from their website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-7K_09RwI

http://metametaoficial.com.br/


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2020 at 14:21
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Many things I have never heard before....for me some very out there music....

1.Kaleidoscope - Taxim
2.Tokyo Groove Jyoshi - What is Hip?
3.Anoushka Shankar and Patricia Kopatchinskaja - Raga Piloo
  Glad you enjoyed them.  Not everything they do is that by a long shot, but every recording has something representative of what Sol brought to the band.
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My three picks.

Ludovico Einaudi - Beautiful melody. This was the standout track for me.
Janko Nilovic - A rousing fusion cut. Very Davis-ish.
Era - Nice on the spot music making.
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Boiled it down to Einaudi - Era - Allman Brothers - Benson - Leigh - Meta Meta.
Still gotta make three out of these six.
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The other pieces

- janko Nilovic plays an emphati piece of jazz blues music

- Kaleidoscope play a beautiful indian ra

- Kazu Matsui : very atmospheric music

_ Marla Leigh : atmospheric and tribal piece
- tokyo groove : one of the best

Era Tono : virtuoso players

SCORN too electronic for my taste

Philip Glass, Pelle and Taylor Davies, Metà Meta are pleasing buy they dont arrive to the podium

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Podium

1) Kaleidoscope

2) Tokyo Groove Jyoshi

3) Charles Ives
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2020 at 18:10
Great poll this one!

I'll open the poll dedicated to

The music with Latin American Influences

Next Tuesday.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Great poll this one!

I'll open the poll dedicated to

The music with Latin American Influences

Next Tuesday.
  Glad you enjoyed the Kaleidoscope, and I agree this was so difficult.  
Also, again, thank you for coming up this idea, it's been fun and I look forward to the next one.Clap
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The answer to the question about which famous musician and song took the main melody from the Charles Ives Sonata.  The song is introduced by a variation of the very first line of the sonata.

 
Here it is (drum roll please):
 
 

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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

The answer to the question about which famous musician and song took the main melody from the Charles Ives Sonata.  The song is introduced by a variation of the very first line of the sonata.

 
Here it is (drum roll please):
 
 
   Thank you, that was driving me nuts.  LOL
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Great poll this one!

I'll open the poll dedicated to

The music with Latin American Influences

Next Tuesday.
  Glad you enjoyed the Kaleidoscope, and I agree this was so difficult.  
Also, again, thank you for coming up this idea, it's been fun and I look forward to the next one.Clap


Wonderful piece of Indian raga!

And searching for news about Kaleidoscope, I've found this https://www.scaruffi.com/vol2/kaleidos.html

Scaruffi is a guide of mine. I dont always agree with him. He's often too severe and has some dislikes. But I always like his favourites and after having voted for Kaleidoscope I have discovered Scaruffi like them very much.

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Oh for heaven's sake!
I gave that Kaleidoscope thing a third listen just for the sake of commenting on it, thinking that I wouldn't vote it anyway... but this time with full concentration - and suddenly it's so good! (Somehow I didn't get it at all yesterday listening while doing the odd other thing.)
I suspect that Anoushka Shankar and Charles Ives might also come back big time at some point; I actually know some other pieces by both of them and for some reason like them more than the things you selected (the inexplicable magic of music that makes some stuff click with some persons and some with some others), even though clearly they are not bad, the potential is clearly there. Similar thing by the way Philip Glass - know some stuff of him that I'd clearly prefer to the one posted. 
But this means that there's more to vote for again than to what I had already narrowed down my choice. Sooo difficult. OK, concept decision - as a matter of principle I'm not giving Anoushka and Charles another chance. Unfair maybe, but I can't manage even more stuff in the selection.



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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

 

 

Pelle Gunmundsen- Holmgreen – Planteaux pour deux – Bicycle horns and a cello….I wear a pan head for a reason….Push it down the stairs and see what it sounds like.  Another contender, but in the end, the bicycle horn section was a little too long and my mind started to wander until she changed instruments, but otherwise, I’m hooked.

 


Similar feeling here, I'm always up for something adventurous and experimental... love the spirit of this, and it has some good bits... but the bicycle horn section didn't hit my spot sonically, and then was pretty long.

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OK, next concept decision. I already knew two of the songs that are still in the race for me, namely the Allman Brothers one and the Einaudi one. I will put exactly one of them in my top three. But which? They're so different and so hard to compare, and I like both of them a lot (that Allman Brothers album is awesome, even if not normally my style). Will go for Einaudi, by a whisker, on the mood of the day.
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Well, it's really like a football (soccer) league where after 38 games played the winner has a pitiful 6 points more than the last.
I very much like the relaxed, groovy and sophisticated music by George Benson and Bryan Beller; just my gut feeling says, not quite up there.
Tokyo Groove Jyoshi is big fun but maybe three points behind the top team.
I am a sucker for well done folky/world music; after the earlier surprise experience I'll pick Kaleidoscope just over Marla Leigh and Era, but I loved all three of these.
Finally, never heard of Meta Meta, but that's just my kind of rhythm. As a critic probably I wouldn't give it the highest score but for me personally it's number one.  

By the way, listening to all of these, I'm quite happy to have nominated Scorn. Apparently it didn't convince too many of you, but it feels like something of a sonic outlier even in this very varied field, and that's some achievement. I have a weak spot for some minimalist and monotonous haunting stuff that I know many (particularly prog listeners) won't share. One of the first times I listened to this album was while I was reading a book by a German journalist on Cambodia and the Vietnam war that was written in a very lively "like you are in the middle of things" way, and together with this music it was the most shattering experience. 
(In case anyone is interested: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7749745-death-in-the-rice-fields )


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

OK, next concept decision. I already knew two of the songs that are still in the race for me, namely the Allman Brothers one and the Einaudi one. I will put exactly one of them in my top three. But which? They're so different and so hard to compare, and I like both of them a lot (that Allman Brothers album is awesome, even if not normally my style). Will go for Einaudi, by a whisker, on the mood of the day.


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Went with:
Janko Nilovic
Era
Kaleidoscope

And whole bunch just missing out:
Allman Brothers, Einaudi, Marla Leigh, Anoushka Shankar, Meta Meta. Alice Cooper

19 (18 if you don't count your own) pieces to choose from all with merits

Edited by mathman0806 - June 20 2020 at 09:02
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