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TerLJack 
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That one right there's a good one to start! Other wise titled PG3
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TerLJack
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 09:04 |
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I just rediscovered Yessongs.
I had a couple songs on cassette, recorded from vinyl years ago. Serious years. Recorded well before the second live record came out. Since then, I've worked hard to complete my studio discography from Yes. Never replaced the live records, thinking those versions inferior.
I was wrong, dead wrong. Some of these are definitive versions in my mind. Performances are off the chart. |
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softandwet
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 10:26 |
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As a young prog folk (18 y.o) I discovered prog in 2018 with ITCOTCK and since then I know all the Big 6 releases as well as obscure RPI like Il Rovescio Della Medaglia for example. I own like 30 prog vinyls including Osanna, VDGG, Hammill (I love A Black Box), Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Zappa, Ange, Camel, Oldfield, etc.
Recently I got myself into AMAROK by Oldfield and Trilogy by ELP. |
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So don’t evade the surgeon’s blade
Cos the answer could be in your mind Maybe one cut and we’ll find We’re just a wavelength behind But we are entwined And I know what you need |
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richardh
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 14:39 |
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the compilation that you have though (mentioned on another thread) does the business . With ELP, a good compilation suffices , and I say that as a fan. That said it hasn't stopped me buying 7 re-issues or so of Brain Salad Surgery.
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Droxford
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 15:01 |
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I rate the Mahavishnu Orchestra's first three albums , Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire , and Between Nothingness and Eternity, very highly . Would be interested to know what you think of 'Birds of Fire' . Very different line up and far more fierce sound from 'Emerald Beyond'.
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iluvmarillion
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Posted: June 18 2020 at 00:46 |
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It helps if you're a hundred years old. You get just everything when it comes out. Problem is you run out of space to store everything.
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moshkito
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Posted: June 18 2020 at 07:04 |
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Hi, Not really. You just do not spend time and money on things that are less essential ... for example, in the 70's I didn't need to spend a cent, and wouldn't, on Elton John ... that's not to say that he wasn't good ... but with KS/TD/AD2/CAN/BANCO/PFM and so many other things wanting to come home ... guess what you got ... and I was not interested in the Eric Clapton album, either, or Kris/Barbara new album that raised album prices! Our interest then, and I agree that it was not the "normal" form, of hit-ridden and obsessed folks (like here!), but there was much better and greater music out there, that too many folks did not wish to hear ... and if you think this is not important of valuable ... Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio is still the most important "new music" person EVER ... and we're talking 46 1/2 years later ... so my next question ... where is your focus? Ours was new music ... too many here it's just the top 5!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 18 2020 at 10:47 |
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To be honest I can't say there is any classic prog that I'm not aware of or discovered recently...I have discovered many obscure things in the last 30 years thanks to several friends and of course this forum and it's members.
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Braka1
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Posted: June 18 2020 at 11:00 |
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I'm pretty sure I never owned a single Queen album til a couple of weeks ago, when I bought a big box of old CDs which included Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, Day at the Races, Night at the Opera and News of the World, and a few other less reputable ones.
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Droxford
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Posted: June 18 2020 at 14:32 |
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I bought Yes' 'Tales From the Topographic Oceans' three years ago.
My older brother took me to see Yes perform live at the end of 1973. They played 'Close to the Edge' , all four sides of 'Tales'....and 'Roundabout' as an encore. Didn't take to 'Tales' at all. Over the decades that followed , didn't listen to much Prog, and the only Yes album I owned was 'Relayer' until well into this century. Now really appreciate 'Tales ' . I know that the album caused a rift in the band and Rick Wakeman left ( for the first time) as was not happy with it. It may not be Yes' best work, but get a lot from listening to 'Tales' ...and even enjoy the lyrics which seem quite obtuse even by Prog standards.
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iluvmarillion
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Posted: June 18 2020 at 18:37 |
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Good post. My own opinion back in 1973 is that the band had performed it as a 2 hour jam without the preamble of a Jon Anderson introduction. They should have left out performing Close to the Edge which is itself a fairly complicated piece of music and which the audience are going to be comparing Tales to. Band goes off stage at the end and then returns with Jon explaining the work to the audience. Then they do Roundabout as an encore. Looking at it realistically though Tales was never going to work live on stage without the buy-in from Rick Wakeman who according to one account was eating curry during one of the performances.
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moshkito
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Hi, At the Long Beach Arena, they went straight to "TALES" and then they took a wee break and came back and did "CTTE" ... and the encore after that was "ROUNDABOUT", and I think they did one more thing but I am not sure what it was now. It doesn't matter to me that Rick was eating "curry" or "cereal" ... all musicians, sometimes eat something between bits for the sake of a bit more energy, specially people that burn energy fast. The only comment I ever had of Rick is that he never respected this piece of music, and until the day that he grows up and does a piano version of it in its entirety, to me, he is just a "musician" that knows "notes", not an "artist" that lives and dies with the music! It doesn't matter if something you did is not "great" to your this or that ... what matters is that your name is attached to it, and trashing it is counter productive and does not help the fans' understanding of the piece, which is not as simple as ... jane got a gun ... or brown sugar ... simplistic stuff that in reality is more of a finger to the strength of lyrics as an art form, by bringing it down to a pedestrian level. MIND YOU, that some of these end up being really good and well done, so the criticism is not an attempt to say all of these lyrics stink ... but the context is the issue and how it is brought out. And Rick still has not grown up ... but he'll take the money home real quick ... !!!!
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Droxford
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Posted: June 19 2020 at 14:25 |
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Thank you for the replies in relation to 'Tales from the Topographic Oceans'. Maybe it simply isn't an album that has an immediate appeal with some people, and playing the whole four sides one after the other when it was still unfamiliar, was too much. But I am glad that I saw Yes, particularly with this line up, my first ever rock concert. And eventually got to appreciate 'Tales'....
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Spacegod87
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Posted: June 19 2020 at 20:04 |
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I'm actually the same as you.
I knew a few songs off Foxtrot, then only last month I sat down and listened to the whole thing. Loved it so much and I honestly never thought I would..
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Sacro_Porgo
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Posted: June 19 2020 at 23:06 |
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I don't think Il Rovescio Della Medaglia is that obscure for RPI, but I will always applaud people taking the time to explore Italy's magnificent prog scene, especially if they get past the big three RPI bands (who are all well deserving of their positions). I'm jealous of and impressed by your prog record collection though! Most of my prog records are limited to the big 6 and Rush, as a lot of the other stuff (especially non-English) is plain hard to find where I live. I would LOVE to have Osanna on vinyl, lol.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Mortte
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Posted: June 19 2020 at 23:25 |
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Yesterday I listened first time Hatfield & the North the Rotters` Club and it was much better than I thought! All the way Gong was a long time my only Canterbury band and I got only Flying Teapot from them (really I wonder now why nobody recommend me earlier for example Caravan what I love now so much). Also from Kraut I had in nineties just Can´s Monster Movie, begin of 2000 started to listen Amon Düül II and not earlier than 2010 Faust that I also love now so much! Not many years I started to listen Agitation Free.
I have had many classic rock albums I have listened first recent years (for example Bob Dylan´s Freewheelin & Highway 61 Revisited). I think reason is I am interested all kinds of music and just haven´t got enough time to all I want to listen. But Foxtrot I heard first time in the eighties, not immediately started to love it (as not any other Genesis album that time) but when it hit it hit hard!! Not listen it often these days, but always it sounds so great!
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moshkito
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Hi, My feeling is that too many folks are not "aware" of the arts during their lifetime ... if they were, knowing that things existed out there that were different than the top ten that you have heard too many times, you would have checked out a few more things. It's the same here, today, and when you look at a lot of posts, too much of it is just subjective comments, that do not pay attention to the time or place, or care as to how/why they were big then ... and you know that today, no one would give a darn and that not even a small dildo pipe was going to help STEELY DAN get better known ... at UCSB when I was there (78/82), girls used to make fun of guys sucking on that pipe for the load of dope ... Today, compared to yesterday, there is a lot more music, and places like PA are instrumental in seeing that it is (at least) listed, although my preferences would be to not immediately shuffle that band to the closet on the left where you have 74 albums gathering dust that you probably don't remember what they sound like or are about! BUT, YESTERDAY, (late 60's and 70's) no one knew a lot of these bands ... and the only way to get to them, was if you TUNED YOUR EARS to something different ... and that PFM, BANCO, ANGE, AD2, CAN and so many other bands made it ... was because many of us were listening to so many different things ... and heck ... one trip to Moby Disk in their old location in Van Nuys (Victory Blvd), and you get a headache WITHIN 5 MINUTES .... why? The amount of choices was insane and you would end up getting something "safe" and "known") like PH or VdGG because you had no idea what all the other stuff was about. "Recent discovery" is more about many folks here waking up and finding ... wow ... there was music then! There had always been music at all times in many places around the world ... but you did not hear any of it because you were into so much of the pop/rock stuff that is supposedly better for you ... like not make you as well versed in the arts ... something the Republicans have been trying to kill for 40 years ... why? Most educational moneys were ending up in "liberal" education and arts, and this, unfortunately for them means ... it makes people more intelligent, and some republicans were making sure that the public did not get more intelligent! Good thing that thing haven't changed ... or have they? The question is, are we going to help the younger generation "find" more music and arts everywhere else? And I don't know that the interest is quite there ... so for all intents and purposes, it is EXACTLY the same thing as it was way back then, yesterday!
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glaswegians
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 23:04 |
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Y'all are gonna hate me for this but I've never listened to any of Genesis' albums
(but I love other 70s prog like Camel, Gentle Giant, Yes, King Crimson, etc etc etc)
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tdfloyd
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 23:56 |
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Keep going at least through the Schmoelling years
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Sacro_Porgo
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Posted: June 28 2020 at 01:03 |
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Do you not like Genesis or have you just not gotten around to them yet?
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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