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uduwudu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
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Presence. It gets a mauling. People moaned when there were acoustic numbers, then when there were none they moaned about the absence on Presence. No radio hits here really. This was and is deep cut stuff. Their Wish You Were Here to Zep IV's Dark Side. Throw in Station To Station and we have a trifecta of what great 70s rock was really about. Achilles Last Stand with that minor 6 intro and the journey and sections throughout. Outstanding drumming and restraind solos as Jimmy Page applies his art. The reason I lik listening to Zeppelin is listening to this guy play (which he does very well here). For Your Life is what happens to You Shook Me (also brilliant). Exceptional solo. Royal Orleans. Rhythm section madness as Plant negotiates the dynamics. Bonzo exceptional as the band, under pressure at the time, delivers material that even if a sog was not great is easily disguised by their stunning ability to play the hell out of anything. Nobody's Fault But Mine. Unlike Whole Lotta Love only the lyrics are nicked - Zeppelin took all of Bukka White's riff (his arrangement for the number) and Willie Dixon's lyrics and "wrote" that one. (White's was on utube for a while but seems to have vanished. Worse than their "writing" In My Time Of Dying ten years or so after Bob Dylan first covered it. But other than that, for me unforgivable blemish, deliberate plagiarism Nobody's Fault is bliss. Here Page has a killer riff. Never fouled up in concert it is a sublime piece of how blues can really be progressed. Stunning solo and the band are just fantastic. Next up Hots On For Nowhere and Candy Store Rock are the only weaker moments. Good performances on songs that are is search for a melody or hook. Nice rhythmic approach but that's it... Ok but needed some more thought. I know Page Plant made Tea For One into a medley with SIBLY but really they are very separate. Another ultra cool opening riff and then of all things it slows down to a crawl. The ride cymbal guides us through this desperate blues. The lyrics are complemented by the deep soul of Page's guitar work which both understated and sublime in it's haze. It's long but it is worth every moment. More solos, more performance, more spontaneity more cohesion, no stupid lyrics (That Going to California moment). No excessive vocal ad libs that annoy some. Epics standing toe to toe with the best of the others, though really only Kashmir is equal. Levee and Stairway are sublime and close and Dazed is possibly a good source of many ideas they get for this. No pop songs, this is hard core rock at it's most uncompromising. It is dripping in atmosphere as well. Context and comparison. So a couple of tunes probably needed a little more thought (I am perfectly happy to be wrong here), doesn't take away from the most complete album statement. Parts of Zep 1 (most of side 1) couple of moments off Zep 2, most of Zep 3 and 4, 3/4 of HoTH Just want to say their choice of No Quarter was the wrong one. The Electric Ladyland recordings are close to the concert ones at 10 minutes and sound way more cool and interesting. A bit of editing of guitars and take three is the one.. Most of PG also (In The Light a little under cooked, like Candy and Hots. Seaside is nice but a little featureless for such a slow number - go directly to Tea For One. If we forgive Plant that most wretched of 70s rock lyric topic for Sick Again we have to accept the same drivel on For Your Life. But his performance of both particularly the latter is outstanding and hides the drivel - rock stars moaning about groupies and cocaine. Such hard, miserable lives. A tear. Side 2 or tracks 4, 5, and 6 may be the best side of rock ever released for Graffiti which, if spit into different albums might have given Presence runs for their money. Close but the performance and cohesion of Presence gives it the edge. But that side 2 of Graffiti... Like the multiple sectioned performances of Dazed And Confused in concert and probably No Quarter live this is the sort of thing where no one can ever get anywhere near Led Zeppelin. Though Rainbow came close with Long Live Rock and Roll as Blackmore tried to do his version of Graffiti. Lady Of the Lake is his "rewrite" of the Wanton Song. Now if that one had turned up on Presence instead... |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13238 |
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Great review of Presence.
Actually, Bukka White did not write or originally play "Nobody's Fault But Mine", that was Blind Willie Johnson in 1927. The song was already in the public domain by 1976. That voice. Killer! |
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2188 |
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Here's the one I was thinking of by the Beatles … opening chords to Michelle: Love Page's use of the chords, though. I think he throws a nice chord inversion in there (voicing). And, then that transition to the next part. Sublime. But, don't listen to it TOO MUCH! |
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Graffiti > IV > II > I > Houses > III > Presence > Door > Coda.
The Houses of the Holy tracks definitely are better live and I would promote the album higher if the production and vocals were so much stronger. |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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the brown bomber.. that rules all kinds of heaven and hell.. so much more you can ignore the musical sh*t stain that is Thank You... even Zep could wiff once in awhile..
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43941 |
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The writing's on the wall. I'm voting for Physical Graffiti, mainly because that's the only Led Zeppelin studio album I own.
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that blows my f**king mind man...
and I's has to ask... though you are probably going to break my heart.. how many Beatles albums do you own.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43941 |
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^^ It's not as bad as it sounds: although I only have one Led Zeppelin studio album, I do have four 2-CD compilation albums by Page & Plant & Co.
![]() I'll soon need two hands to count all of my Beatles albums, as I currently have five albums by the Fab Four, although that includes compilations too.
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ok big guy... you didn't trample my heart and leave me crying .... there's hope for us yet..
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Chipping in here with a minor digression : my favourite songs from Zepp are since I’ve Been Loving You (they took Moby Grape’s ‘Never’ to uber-soulful heights here), and Tea For One. They do have many great songs, but i’ve never heard crawling blues done as magical as LZ.
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That's good to hear. I wouldn't want to end up being Trampled Underfoot.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13238 |
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Dude, whatever you think about "Thank You", take it from me -- you whip out the acoustic and play that in a bar, you are going to get laid. It's just one of those songs. You mentioned "Nights in White Satin" elsewhere, it's like that.
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Basically a tie between the debut and Mystical Tahiti..went with the latter.
Btw if you play ‘Nights In White Satin’ to anyone under 50 you are most definitely not getting laid ![]() It works wonders as a sort of sexual kryptonite. |
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*spits Raff coffee all over monitor* now that is truly heartbreaking... next you'll tell me Dark Side ain't doing it either... so what does the youngin' set turn to when it is time to get to it...
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Songs from the Wood?
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Having played in bars for decades, I can tell you not everything works as an aural aphrodisiac. But for humor's sake I do recall an interview with Paul Simon where the interviewer was going on and on about Simon's lyrical profundity and the impact his compositions had on society in the 1960s. After gushing about how deep Simon's songwriting was, the interviewer finally asked Paul what drove him to play guitar? Simon got an evil smirk and replied something to the effect: "Chicks. Are you kidding me? I was a 5'3'' Jewish kid." |
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I agree.
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