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Interactive Poll #2 - The Poll Strikes Back |
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jamesbaldwin 
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In the same poll Phil Ochs and Francesco Guccini, two of the major communist folksingers-songwriters.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 07:43 |
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We are looking for Billy Bragg...
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:18 |
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the problem with most singer-songwriters is the music is completely secondary to the story
so for the third poll.. I whip it out..and bring it with authority.. and bring on a singer-songwriter with a brilliant though depressing story to tell.. that musically is off the charts. And if it doesn't win the poll.. I'll have to reconsider some musical tastes here
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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TCat
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:40 |
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Okay....Posting is closed and voting is open. Remember to vote for 3. It's up to you if you want to vote for your own, but I think it's only fair to say that you should only do it if you truly think it is one of the best three.
Thanks to everyone for posting, we got the slots filled quite quickly, and as Micky said, it's quite a variety of selections, and that is what makes this all fun. Excellent choices everyone. Now go vote, and remember, we only accept the popular vote as the winner.
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:54 |
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my votes up...
and back at you Greg. Have heard Shara's albums.. needless to say after HoL came out we snapped up all the stuff she did. Gpd almighty what a voice... Something from her might be a good selection for the next poll... if you (or Raff) doesn't hit her up on the next. I'll nail her for the 4th go around...
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TCat
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 09:36 |
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This one was tough as there were some excellent tracks posted.
I finally decided: 1. The Bears - "Dave" Perfect song. Will definately look into these guys a bit more. 2. Ligeti's Etude No. 5 - So many layers that work so well together. I always love it when they post the score so that you can follow along because that helps you see how it is put together better. Dynamics in this one are excellent, the triplets and the natural fade at the end is brilliant. 3. Stephen Malkmus and Jicks - Real Emotional Trash. After the 6 minute mark where it really lets go is the cherry on the top. Love it! Many of the others were also in the running so it was hard to choose. We'll keep voting open through today and tomorrow and then see where we're at then. Even if you didn't get to post a track this time around, you are still welcome to vote. Invite your friends! Thanks again everyone! |
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Grumpyprogfan
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 09:59 |
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In no order.
1. Angelica Garcia - Funny video, reminds me a bit of Bent Knee. 2. Dan Mandrilla - Love jazz. Groovy song. 3. Beth Nielson Chapman - Great voice and the hypnotic bongos work. TCat - Thanks for the kind words about The Bears. Also check out The Psychodots - same band as The Bears minus Belew. Edited by Grumpyprogfan - May 25 2020 at 10:00 |
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Snicolette
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:07 |
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Lots of great music, I ended up with the Ligeti's Etude piece as my vote. I will also say I've found a few more I want to check into more. Angelica Garcia, Beth Nielson Chapman, The Bears and Stephen Malkmus & Jicks.
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:07 |
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In my defense, point #1: the album came out in 2009. I didn't stop by till 2011. Point #2, I seldom pay attention to what goes on here for any length of time. The 70s....drugs...short term memory loss...what were we talking about again?
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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TCat
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:19 |
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Did you vote 3 times or only once? Everyone gets to vote for 3.
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:21 |
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The Decemberists have put out some great material. Sorry we couldn't include them in the poll. |
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:54 |
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Edited by Snicolette - May 25 2020 at 11:55 |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Lewian
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:57 |
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You guys are fast!
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:02 |
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^ I blame Raff's coffee this morning... that sh*t will have you ready to rumble right out of the gate.
the key to happy marriage I've learned... killer coffee
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:05 |
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hah.. at least you have that to blame. I only get to blame premature cranial decrepitude brought on by one too many blows to the head in my bar fighting/bouncing days and with a fair share of self abuse out of a bottle. or it is just getting old... It seems like that album came out just the other day.. and it seems like you have been around forever
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:37 |
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Yes, the challenge is to sing political lyrics with a beautiful melody and a worthy arrangement. If you want to be political, you have to do it in a non-direct way, with poetry. I have read from various places Phil Ochs has considered himself a reporter, and Dylan said to him that he was only a journalist, not a musician. I can't dare to judge him, I know him too little. In Italy Guccini and De André have never been reporters or journalists who made music, but the seeds of real poets, and it is no coincidence Guccini is also a writer and a learned linguist. The song I put on by Guccini is certainly not one of his political songs, it shows a love story with her contradictions, her uncertainties. And in my opinion there is a beautiful melody, a very good classical arrangement and a great vocal performance. In fact, a true singer-songwriter must have a philosophical and existential streak before even political, and everyone must know how to transfer his mood into music, I mean melancholy, or desecration or sarcasm or anger, etc. Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 25 2020 at 12:40 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Snicolette
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:45 |
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Yes, the song you have chosen got a very beautiful melody and a good classical arrangement. I have listened to two Ochs' albums and I think Ochs was able to write and sings wonderful melodical songs - even if my knowledge is limited. Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 25 2020 at 12:55 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:55 |
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I'll not vote for my adding, even if I think it is a standout song. If I were the poll/thread creator, I'd ban that option.
I've listened to them all. It was generally okay, sometimes fun, and sometimes boring. My choices in order are: 1) Beth Nielson Chapman - Beyond the Blue (Awesome.) 2-) The Charlie Daniels Band - No Place to Go (A little bit too long, but great fun anyway.) 3-) Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks - Real Emotional Trash (Started a little bit bland but went on very very good.) Edited by Shadowyzard - May 25 2020 at 12:57 |
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Snicolette
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Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:59 |
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One thing is clear, at least those of us playing this game, we listen to a lot of other kinds of music than progressive. Great idea to present these!
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