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progaardvark 
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Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52101 |
 Posted: May 07 2020 at 21:12 |
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I invite folks to research Joseph Mercola. It certainly raised a lot red flags in my head. As for checkered, if you get caught stealing company property, manipulating data, have to retract your article because no one else could replicate your results, and then start passing off conspiracy theories so you can sell a book... then hey, I guess that's OK these days. I don't think Jesus is in the same league as Judy. Yes, you're right. You do have the right to listen, read, and question. I don't believe anyone was questioning that. But were you expecting us to just believe everything you post? And YouTube can do whatever it wants with its platform. They own it and if they think removing health misinformation during a health crisis is a benefit for the public, that's their choice. If this were North Korea, you wouldn't have internet access. |
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Easy Money
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10671 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 20:49 |
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^ Thats a little better than your initial post, but it was claiming to be the son of God that got him in the most trouble.
By the way, has anyone else tried to quote CosmicVibration, what are all those millions of lines that follow his quotes, I have never seen anything like that before. His quotes are followed with about a mile long list of lines such as this: <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="39" Name="toc 4"/> What is that? Edited by Easy Money - May 07 2020 at 20:54 |
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Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
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CosmicVibration
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Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 20:37 |
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it’s always been about power and control and money can buy that. Jesus was a threat to those in power and any checkers that can be placed upon him that can take him down will do. |
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Easy Money
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10671 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 20:01 |
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[QUOTE=CosmicVibration]
<p ="Msonormal">When money and power are involved anyone’s past can be “checkered”.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Jesus the Christ was crucified for his checkered past. ^ That is incorrect. Jesus was crucified for claiming to be the son of God and for constantly challenging the religious leaders. They didn't like the fact that he was becoming more popular than they were. Sorry if this is off topic, but misinformation is misinformation. Edited by Easy Money - May 07 2020 at 20:01 |
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Help the victims of the russian invasion:
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CosmicVibration
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Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 19:39 |
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When money and power are involved anyone’s past can be “checkered”. Jesus the Christ was crucified for his checkered past. I don’t know for certain, but I do have the right to listen, read and question. So why has the video been taken down again? Did i step into the Twilight Zone and now am in North Korea… WTF For anyone that’s interested, info is still available on Mercola’s website. |
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progaardvark
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Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52101 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 15:33 |
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I can't even watch the video. It was removed by YouTube. No offence, but if you're going to debate science here, I think I would rather look at peer-reviewed articles from a reputable science journal, particularly one from the relevant field.
As for Judy Mikovits, well anyone can do some checking on her. She seems to have had quite a checkered past. Enough so that it should bring up some red flags on her integrity.
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Lewian
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Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15005 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 13:12 |
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Well, I leave you with your assumptions. Surely I have no business defending Dr Fauci. By the way I didn't pick out an ability but a statement of yours, and I didn't mean to say it is bullsh*t, but rather that my experience is if something is promoted in the way you promote this video, there's a very good probability that it is bullsh*t. Which didn't even stop me from watching it (there you have it), so you may take this as a success. The vast majority of things claimed in the video by the way are not for a scientist to assess but rather for a journalist or detective, who did what when etc. Much of the scientific part is mere speculation, about which the lady at least is fairly open. Ultimately it's by far not the worst I have seen on that matter, it may even be good, but it's full of claims that an outsider cannot check, not even a virologist. (Obviously cstack3 is still invited to give his option.)
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CosmicVibration
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Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 08:42 |
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What are talking about? My reply was to cstack3, who claims to be knowledgeable about the science. I on the other hand am not and wanted to get his opinion on that. You only picked out my ability to read people’s eyes. Sure, you can call that part bullsh*t if you want. But some of us can tell a lot by looking into some one’s eyes. Did you watch the entire video? How about the Mercola interview, I bet not. |
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Lewian
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Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15005 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 07:49 |
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You've got to work on your assessment criteria... (BTW I have no idea whether what is claimed in the video is true; it is about a lot of stuff that cannot be assessed from the outside, but your statement above is a bullsh*t warning above anything else.)
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CosmicVibration
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Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: May 07 2020 at 04:44 |
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I do not have a doctorate in infectious disease epidemiology and am considered a layman in virology and pandemic preparedness.
Does any of what Judy Mikovitz say hold water? She does have impressive credentials. Again, I’m no expert in the field, but her eyes don’t lie. I also sense much sadness in her eyes. This is the same youtube video that I posted above and Youtube removed.. WTF! Last night it had over 3.6million views and only posted May 4th if I recall correctly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqksJuT2KfM She talks in more scientific
detail in the Dr. Mercola site I also posted above. not taken down yet. |
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cstack3
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VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7401 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 22:31 |
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No. I have a doctorate in infectious disease epidemiology and am considered an expert in virology and pandemic preparedness. I wish this were the flu....we understand influenza very well (orthomixo virus), and have a wide variety of proven & safe medications to fight it including vaccines, antivirals like Tamiflu and written response plans. The Covid-19 agent, called SARS-CoV2, is a "spillover" virus originating from a bat. Bats are filthy with these viruses, and the first SARS in 2003 and MERS in the Middle East both have origins in bats (horseshoe bats in China and Egyptian tomb bats in the Middle East). Because SARS-CoV2 is a novel, emerging virus, no humans have ever had exposure to it before, so there is no immunologic memory to this virus. It has a MUCH higher fatality rate than influenza, spreads very easily, and is ravaging the planet. We have virtually no medical tools to fight it off except for ancient ones including seclusion and quarantine. The crowds in the USA are indeed quite mad. Unlike virtually any other country, we have many, many crazy folks who are heavily armed. However, the entire world seems mad....I find it interesting that toilet paper is missing in nearly every country!! The only prog humor I could find in any of this was this photo of Bob Fripp wearing a black (of course!) face mask, with his comment "I advance masked." |
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I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
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CosmicVibration
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Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 20:09 |
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What exactly was in those vials?? https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related |
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rogerthat
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Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 19:55 |
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My theory is this, CIA tricked China through this joint research thing that Newsweek reported (yes, Newsweek, clearly not Alex Jones league) and planted the virus in China. An enraged China deliberately sent superspreaders across US and Europe to spread the virus there too as revenge. This was supposed to destroy the Chinese economy and force the leadership to the negotiating table but it didn't happen and the collective negligence of Trump and European leaders meant it became a worldwide pandemic instead. |
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Tom Ozric
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Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 16:14 |
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I notice many fools ignoring the social distancing regiment. When will people learn.....?
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npjnpj
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Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 15:20 |
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What bugs me is that if you even mention the possibility of COVID-19 having been manufactured, you are immediately placed in the same group of crazies as flat earthers, anti vaxxers, or conspiracy theorists. I find this very suspicious. What sort of attitude is this? I don't find it unreasonable that at least the possibility should be examined by reliable and independent groups. Under the circumstances in China and taking their past despicable behaviour into account, I personally would give it a 50/50 chance. Some groups have already denied even the possibility, while others are showing that protein insertions unique to this virus ('Insertions' is almost a smoking gun here, not explainable by mutations) are almost a natural impossibility. They have been done in laboratories since the 1970s though. Looking at who the members of the denying groups are is, shall we say, interesting. Anyways, you don't have an investigation where one possibility is excluded right from the start. Let them look. If they find nothing: great! But I object that those asking such questions should stick out like a decent human being at a conservative meeting.
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CosmicVibration
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Joined: February 26 2014 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 14:57 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 06 2020 at 13:54 |
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^ I'll take that one --
Trump is undoubtedly a nut job and so is everyone (almost) who voted for, and still supports, him. Some of it is probably hedonic adaptation where you continue to believe in something even when it is clearly not what you expected. But the rest are just misled fools who genuinely believe in Trump's brand of ignorance and buffoonery. As for Americans complaining about a loss of freedom and right to work, many of whom are not Trump supporters--- well, uh, yeah, of course they are and I don't blame them. If they wanna risk it and their clients do to, then those communities will either suffer or benefit for it. What non-Americans either don't grasp or are appalled by is that you'd want freedom and right-to-work over the national health. But that's a fundamental part of U.S. culture ... land of the free, home of the brave. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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npjnpj
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Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 13:17 |
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I think the US might want to sit that one out.
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Chaser
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Joined: April 18 2018 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 1202 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 13:16 |
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It's not just the president who's a nut job, the whole country is full of nut jobs!
Most of these idiots out waving their placards about their loss of "freedom" or their "right to work" will only learn the reality of the situation when they're in hospital on a ventilator fighting for their life. I don't wish Covid19 on anyone, but most of these idiots act like they really want to end up in the ICU.
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progaardvark
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Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52101 |
Posted: May 06 2020 at 10:56 |
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^We're basically on our own here. Usually the feds coordinate the show during a national emergency, but the states have been stuck with battling and outbidding each other to get medical equipment. It's almost like we have 50 separate countries now.
Time will tell if this premature loosening of restrictions is good or bad. IHME has now revised their projections to over 130,000 dead by August. I'm seeing more and more photos of people not practicing social distancing, almost as if they think we've returned to normal. I'm concerned CIDRAP's Scenario 2 might happen this fall. We may be opening and closing the economy multiple times over the next two years. Canada and Mexico should consider closing their borders with us permanently. |
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