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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Yeah I liked that one better than the one last night(still not as good as Monolith though). Definitely the most rockin one so far from them. Had some filler track like Andi and especially Get Rich. Going Though the Motions and End of the Age were cool. All in all pretty good, but not great album. I liked it.
Well...guess Iīll try it someday (but not today).
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I have listened quite recently all the first five Emerson, Lake & Palmer-albums, so I think I will start my day with "Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends", never listened that before. I didnīt know it is triple album (just like Yessongs), so listening will be challenge to me (sometimes Emersonīs playing irritate me). I havenīt also ever listened either of Works, going to listen them too in the future.


Oh, I thought you don't like them. Anyway, that's great! I love Emerson's playing, it's bombastic at times and really gives them an advantage imo. I haven't heard this live deal from them that you're talking about. I pretty much just stick to those classic first 4 studio albums. Although I have listened to most of their other studio albums once or twice. That's how I am with Yes albums after Big Generator also.
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What. If it's really a masterpiece, like Pawn Hearts and MDK... then I want to listen to it soon! Maybe tomorrow night I'll take a break from all these Kansas albums and listen to this deal.


Hard to say whatīs youīre thinking about it. I just donīt know how much you like acoustic stuff, it has quite much of it as also other, almost as great Arco Iris-albums, but also it has much more electric stuff and some of the pieces goes into fusion direction. All the way I think itīs very interesting and versatile album, but still constant. Donīt also know, is the Spanish language problem to you, to me it also sounds really great! Anyway I think you should listen it at least once! Hope youīll find it, it is in spotify (I think it has put there from vinyl), but not in youtube as whole (I believe at least the most pieces are there too). Also, if you like it, then I think you should listen more Finnish prog (have you still listened some Wigwam?)

Here are ten albums I think masterpieces that Iīve found in the last ten years, in order:
1. Family: Music In a Dollīs House
2. Faust: Faust IV (I think many others them masterpieces too)
3. Can: Tago-Mago
4. Magma: s/t
5. Comus: First Utterance
6. Nico: the Marble Index
7. Arco Iris: Agitor Lucens V
8. Caravan: In the Land Of Grey & Pink
9. the Pop Group: Y
10. Pere Ubu: the Art Of Walking



Cool.. thanks for posting these! I already know some of them. I obviously just recently heard the Family album and really liked it. Tago Mago of course, I agree that's absolutely great. Magma s/t, very jazzy I like it a lot! But I think I might like 1001° Centigrades even more. And of course In the Land... an all time classic although I actually enjoy listening to For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night more(that album is so kick ass).

The second one you got here.. I can't(name of the band). That Comus deal I want to listen to sometime soon though. And some of these others also for sure!


You're right unfortunately, whole album of Agitor Lucens V is not on youtube, an looks like have to sign up with spotify. So I'm off now to listen to this Comus deal(First Utterance).


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First Utterance by Comus

WOW! Yeah that's a masterpiece, absolutely no question. Some of it kind of reminded me of early T.Rex(Tyrannosaurus Rex), like the drums in that first song for instance. Anyway, no filler in that, every song was good. Some disturbing lyrics, like in The Bite. In the song Drip Drip the singer sounds a lot like Peter Gabriel imo. A lot of really good violin in that album. Yeah man, great great album. Thanks a lot for suggesting it. I'll have to get to some of your other suggestions also soon!
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First Utterance by Comus

WOW! Yeah that's a masterpiece, absolutely no question. Some of it kind of reminded me of early T.Rex(Tyrannosaurus Rex), like the drums in that first song for instance. Anyway, no filler in that, every song was good. Some disturbing lyrics, like in The Bite. In the song Drip Drip the singer sounds a lot like Peter Gabriel imo. A lot of really good violin in that album. Yeah man, great great album. Thanks a lot for suggesting it. I'll have to get to some of your other suggestions also soon!
Yeah, lyrics in "First Utterance" are mostly ugly, but music is just fantastic, my fav is "the Herald" (Bobby Watson is just amazing singer!). I really like those early T. Rex-albums, but to me Comus rise into really different level. Their two other albums are also really good (Bobby is singing much more in them) not same kind of masterpieces as this first one.
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I love First Utterance, of course (since I mention it a lot in the forums). I find the most disturbing lyrics in "Drip, Drip". "The Herald" is rather creepy but gorgeous. It reminds me in part of the film The Wicker Man. It also has that paganistic folk horror feel, and "The Bite" can be linked to a certain theme in The Wicker Man.

I was going to suggest Gnidrolog the other day in this topic. I like the debut the most, but Lady Lake might me the one that most appeals to Yesisis.

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This day:
Emerson, Lake and Palmer: Welcome Back To My Friends To the Show That Never Ends - Ladies and Gentlemen
Have to say at first that itīs Greg Like why I listen ELP. His voice and also his songs are amazing! But of course I really like Palmerīs drumming and even Emerson is not bad all the time. Anyway this was quite a starting of the day! But...I mostly liked this! "Toccata" and parts of "Tarkus" & "Karn Evil" (Aaargh 36 minutes of that in this live) are not my biggest faves also in the studio. On the other hand I think "Tarkus" sounded better in this live, really I was gladly surprised when Greg started to sing "Epitaph" in the middle of that! Of course versions of "Jerusalem" and "Take a Pebble" (with two Gregīs great acoustic songs in it) are absolutely fabulous! But almost 2 hours...I think it will take sometime I will listen this again.

The Red Crayola with the Familiar Ugly: The Parable Of Arable Land
For the balanceīs sake I have to listen this after that massive ELP bulk. Again masterpiece (this should have been also in that 10 masterpieces of last ten years list), but this time psych rock masterpiece! Originally band got idea to make whole album in improvisations with their 50 friends (they played all kinds of "instruments" from the bottles to match sticks), but of course record company didnīt like that idea. So those improvisations are round the songs. They are really interesting sounding, but I thank record company for their puritanity in this album, because without them we donīt have such psyc rock masterpieces as "Hurricane Fighter Plane", "Transparent Radiation", "War Sucks", "Pink Stainless Tail" and "Former Reflections Enduring Doubt". To me this album rises into level of psych rock classics as "The Velvet Underground and Nico" and "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" and as a matter of fact this album is somewhere middle of those. But really sad this is quite unknown, although of course got respect already when it came.

Pekka Airaksinen: Paramitas
Gladly I found out there were five Pekkaīs albums in bandcamp Iīve never heard! This was originally released as CDr in 1997, but in bandcamp sites it is said "2014 version". So Pekka could have edit this from that original. At first very attacking & twisting drum machine really disturbed me, but in the end of album I started to use in that. I liked the weird techno of longer "Prajna Paramita" and twisting valse and tango of "Upaya Paramita". But really at the moment this isnīt my fav Pekka album and really donīt recommend it to anybodyīs first listening from him.

Mulatu Astatke + Black Jesus Experience: Cradle Of Humanity
Quite recently heard this collaboration is going to release a new album and today I decided to pre-order it! Then I remembered this album from 2016 and it is some time for the last listening. This has really great mix of Ethio Jazz (Mulatu is grand old man of Ethio Jazz), funk & hip hop (one of the rare albums with hip hop-influences I really like). They recorded new, but interesting versions from old Mulatu classic pieces like "Sabye", "Yekatit" & "Netsanet" but there are also good new pieces that I liked the most "We Pray" and ending piece "Itīs Time".

Nina Simone: Wild Is the Wind
I have become Simone fan not until last half years. Of course I knew her for the name, but really hadnīt got the right picture of her. I read last spring 1001 albums before you die and this album was there. So I decided to listen it and become fan immediately! Now I have listened all her albums before this and at the moment I think this is her strongest effort what Iīve heard! Just that very soulful voice with great piano playing and really in the title piece and 2 songs after those you donīt need anything more! I think it was Ninaīs version of the tittle song that inspired Bowie making his own!
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I love First Utterance, of course (since I mention it a lot in the forums). I find the most disturbing lyrics in "Drip, Drip". "The Herald" is rather creepy but gorgeous. It reminds me in part of the film The Wicker Man. It also has that paganistic folk horror feel, and "The Bite" can be linked to a certain theme in The Wicker Man.

I was going to suggest Gnidrolog the other day in this topic. I like the debut the most, but Lady Lake might me the one that most appeals to Yesisis.
Going to listen Gnidrolog "In Spite Of Harryīs Toenail" (that you put in that thread) soon and you can read then what I liked that (I believe I will at least like it).
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Hey Logan, I was just going to answer your post, but you decided to delete it for some reason...and now I just canīt remember what there was but I think it has something that interested me...
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Yep, read your response to Gnidrolog. I wrote a post here on that before, then didn't post it, then made that poll of five based on my most recent listening instead. As for my other post, I clicked on the wrong topic. I had meant the PIL for that 90s "pop" topic. I quickly noticed my mistake, and then put it in its intended place if you want to check it out.

Speaking of punk related music, in the post I didn't submit before, I talked a a bit about my support of Pere Ubu for this site back in the day, and some other post punk, in reference to your post saying "But if you these days try to add some post punk/new wave act to PA (specially if the band is old) whatever much it has progelements, answer is always NO!"

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Yep, read your response to Gnidrolog. I wrote a post here on that before, then didn't post it, then made that poll of five based on my most recent listening instead. As for my other post, I clicked on the wrong topic. I had meant the PIL for that 90s "pop" topic. I quickly noticed my mistake, and then put it in its intended place if you want to check it out.

Speaking of punk related music, in the post I didn't submit before, I talked a a bit about my support of Pere Ubu for this site back in the day, and some other post punk, in reference to your post saying "But if you these days try to add some post punk/new wave act to PA (specially if the band is old) whatever much it has progelements, answer is always NO!"


Umm, I would like to suggest a post punk/new wave act for inclusion here. The band is old and there aren't much prog elements.. But hopefully the answer won't be "NO!" lol.

Ok I'm kidding. So Gnidrolog is your suggestion and an album called "Lady Lake." Well I'll look into it and as long as it's not something 'evil' like Opeth or stuff like that then I will listen to it sometime soon! For sure. You're suggestions have been really good so far(certainly hit a home run suggesting Family back in the other thread).
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

This day:
Emerson, Lake and Palmer: Welcome Back To My Friends To the Show That Never Ends - Ladies and Gentlemen
Have to say at first that itīs Greg Like why I listen ELP. His voice and also his songs are amazing! But of course I really like Palmerīs drumming and even Emerson is not bad all the time. Anyway this was quite a starting of the day! But...I mostly liked this! "Toccata" and parts of "Tarkus" & "Karn Evil" (Aaargh 36 minutes of that in this live) are not my biggest faves also in the studio. On the other hand I think "Tarkus" sounded better in this live, really I was gladly surprised when Greg started to sing "Epitaph" in the middle of that! Of course versions of "Jerusalem" and "Take a Pebble" (with two Gregīs great acoustic songs in it) are absolutely fabulous! But almost 2 hours...I think it will take sometime I will listen this again.

The Red Crayola with the Familiar Ugly: The Parable Of Arable Land
For the balanceīs sake I have to listen this after that massive ELP bulk. Again masterpiece (this should have been also in that 10 masterpieces of last ten years list), but this time psych rock masterpiece! Originally band got idea to make whole album in improvisations with their 50 friends (they played all kinds of "instruments" from the bottles to match sticks), but of course record company didnīt like that idea. So those improvisations are round the songs. They are really interesting sounding, but I thank record company for their puritanity in this album, because without them we donīt have such psyc rock masterpieces as "Hurricane Fighter Plane", "Transparent Radiation", "War Sucks", "Pink Stainless Tail" and "Former Reflections Enduring Doubt". To me this album rises into level of psych rock classics as "The Velvet Underground and Nico" and "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" and as a matter of fact this album is somewhere middle of those. But really sad this is quite unknown, although of course got respect already when it came.

Pekka Airaksinen: Paramitas
Gladly I found out there were five Pekkaīs albums in bandcamp Iīve never heard! This was originally released as CDr in 1997, but in bandcamp sites it is said "2014 version". So Pekka could have edit this from that original. At first very attacking & twisting drum machine really disturbed me, but in the end of album I started to use in that. I liked the weird techno of longer "Prajna Paramita" and twisting valse and tango of "Upaya Paramita". But really at the moment this isnīt my fav Pekka album and really donīt recommend it to anybodyīs first listening from him.

Mulatu Astatke + Black Jesus Experience: Cradle Of Humanity
Quite recently heard this collaboration is going to release a new album and today I decided to pre-order it! Then I remembered this album from 2016 and it is some time for the last listening. This has really great mix of Ethio Jazz (Mulatu is grand old man of Ethio Jazz), funk & hip hop (one of the rare albums with hip hop-influences I really like). They recorded new, but interesting versions from old Mulatu classic pieces like "Sabye", "Yekatit" & "Netsanet" but there are also good new pieces that I liked the most "We Pray" and ending piece "Itīs Time".

Nina Simone: Wild Is the Wind
I have become Simone fan not until last half years. Of course I knew her for the name, but really hadnīt got the right picture of her. I read last spring 1001 albums before you die and this album was there. So I decided to listen it and become fan immediately! Now I have listened all her albums before this and at the moment I think this is her strongest effort what Iīve heard! Just that very soulful voice with great piano playing and really in the title piece and 2 songs after those you donīt need anything more! I think it was Ninaīs version of the tittle song that inspired Bowie making his own!


Oh.. another masterpiece? Well I've gotta hear this now. Man, too many albums too little time lol. Not even sure what I'm going to listen to tonight. Oh well, I've got a few hours to decide here.
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So, what to listen to tonight. John Barleycorn Must Die by Traffic.. Another one of those masterpieces.. Power by Kansas.. Something from The Alan Parsons Project.. Something from Talking Heads.. this Gnidrolog deal...

Alright I went with one of Mortte's suggestions this afternoon, so tonight it's... Lady Lake. See how this goes.
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Yeah, I liked that. Some cool musical breaks toward the end of that first track. Second song just kind of flowed.. was nice. Title track was jazzy, cool sounding. All in all good listening experience. No real weak tracks. Thanks Logan for suggesting that.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

2. Faust: Faust IV (I think many others them masterpieces too)


The second one you got here.. I can't(name of the band). 


Again you choose your albums, but have to say "faust" means fist in German (there are x-rate picture of fist in two Faust album cover). But I believe it has also something do to with that sinister person of Goetheīs poem book. Anyway there are no "evil" lyrics in Faust IV, only to that direction album in theirs is "Faust Wakes Nosferatu" that has instrumental music inspired by F. W. Murnau film "Nosferatu" ( havenīt seen that film). Just for you let to know.
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Yep, read your response to Gnidrolog. I wrote a post here on that before, then didn't post it, then made that poll of five based on my most recent listening instead. As for my other post, I clicked on the wrong topic. I had meant the PIL for that 90s "pop" topic. I quickly noticed my mistake, and then put it in its intended place if you want to check it out.

Speaking of punk related music, in the post I didn't submit before, I talked a a bit about my support of Pere Ubu for this site back in the day, and some other post punk, in reference to your post saying "But if you these days try to add some post punk/new wave act to PA (specially if the band is old) whatever much it has progelements, answer is always NO!"
Yes, that was PIL! I was just going to say I like quite much PIL`s two first album, but havenīt been interested their later more new Wave stuff. And thatīs really great information if Pere Ubu goes through here (really then it has to happend Red Krayola also)!
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Oh.. another masterpiece? Well I've gotta hear this now. Man, too many albums too little time lol. Not even sure what I'm going to listen to tonight. Oh well, I've got a few hours to decide here.
Yes, thatīs the case with me also, too many great albums (or at least interesting) too little time. But I wonīt complain, itīs now just so much better than in the eighties when there just wasnīt enough great music to listen (no internet then and no friend with 16 000 vinyls to borrow, also of course very little money to buy new albums).
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Yeah, I liked that. Some cool musical breaks toward the end of that first track. Second song just kind of flowed.. was nice. Title track was jazzy, cool sounding. All in all good listening experience. No real weak tracks. Thanks Logan for suggesting that.


I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Yep, read your response to Gnidrolog. I wrote a post here on that before, then didn't post it, then made that poll of five based on my most recent listening instead. As for my other post, I clicked on the wrong topic. I had meant the PIL for that 90s "pop" topic. I quickly noticed my mistake, and then put it in its intended place if you want to check it out.

Speaking of punk related music, in the post I didn't submit before, I talked a a bit about my support of Pere Ubu for this site back in the day, and some other post punk, in reference to your post saying "But if you these days try to add some post punk/new wave act to PA (specially if the band is old) whatever much it has progelements, answer is always NO!"
Yes, that was PIL! I was just going to say I like quite much PIL`s two first album, but havenīt been interested their later more new Wave stuff. And thatīs really great information if Pere Ubu goes through here (really then it has to happend Red Krayola also)!


There didn't seem to be much support for Pere Ubu at the time, but that doesn't mean it will never get in. As for PiL, the first three albums I like best, but I like various songs off later albums. I like Red Krayola a lot.
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Mondays two albums:
Bruce Springsteen: Greetings From Asbury Park, N. J.
Manfred Mannīs Earth Bands version of "Blinded by the light" came from the radio today (I think itīs that Bruceīs song although it sounds quite different) so I remembered that I was going to listen this his first album. I am not the biggest Bruce-fan, but I have got his albums from this first to Nebraska, also I have liked his two other acoustic albums and his last years "country"-album. I have listened this least from my albums, maybe because I havenīt got this as cassette as others before I bought these all. I read from some of his book, that record company tried to make him new Dylan, when he was recording this. Now when listening it there might be some Dylan, but I think he sounded himself already in this, I believe he would have sounded ridiculous trying to sound as Dylan. Anyway I think in this album has something that has in no-other his album, something very innocent and excited. Of course this is no "Born To Run". Really like the very intensive "Lost In Flood", really great organ from David Sancious in it, also beautiful ballad "the Angel". Also I think this has something in common as atmosphere as Tom Waits two first albums.

Gnidrolog: In Spite Of Harryīs Toenail
This band has really personal style, it has compared to Jethro & VdGG, but there is only that flute sounding Jethro in some places, and Colin Goldring vocals reminds little bit Peter Hammill, although he is much more one-sided. Really like the rough sounds in this album, changing dry to echoed many times. But at least first time listening I donīt believe this will become my big faves. I think there is one big problem in many these quite unknown progalbums, that has at least interesting compositions, that they very often got weak singers (on the other hand for example that UK Circus album singer is great but material weak). But I am really going to listen their second album, I believe I will also listen this again.
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Again you choose your albums, but have to say "faust" means fist in German (there are x-rate picture of fist in two Faust album cover). But I believe it has also something do to with that sinister person of Goetheīs poem book. Anyway there are no "evil" lyrics in Faust IV, only to that direction album in theirs is "Faust Wakes Nosferatu" that has instrumental music inspired by F. W. Murnau film "Nosferatu" ( havenīt seen that film). Just for you let to know.


I want nothing to do with any of that.


There's artists that you refuse to listen to like Gentle Giant and Steely Dan. Don't know how you feel about Wishbone Ash but I love them also. So you have things you won't listen to and I have things I won't listen to.. like Opeth and that band Ozzy was in before he went solo.
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