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I liked that album. It did have a few songs I wasn't crazy about though, like Sat'd'y Barfly and Children. But many of the other songs were very very good. And I've noticed this band is excellent musically(instrumentally).

So yeah I would say another good album from them.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

I liked that album. It did have a few songs I wasn't crazy about though, like Sat'd'y Barfly and Children. But many of the other songs were very very good. And I've noticed this band is excellent musically(instrumentally).

So yeah I would say another good album from them.
Really great to hear you like that album too! Donīt Wetton & Chapman do a great duet in "Spanish Tide" (specially in the beginning when Chapman hasnīt got the "goatmotor" in a full power? When liking Fearless I think you will like Bandstand too, I like it really much although it is little bit softer than their previous album. Wetton and other too anyway do great job in it also.

About the Other Side Of Life...it seems you my friend know my taste already really well (you said earlier youīre not sure do I like it). But I donīt think the main problem is not the sounds (yes, donīt like them much too), to me it sounds theyīre left their identity almost wholly (vocals are really great in this album as theyīre always in Moodies album) and made a stadium-pop album to the tastes of US mainstream music listeners (and they really succeeded, it was ninth on the billboard). Of course itīs not totally bad album, it has made really well in the production of Tony Visconti. And when youīre a big Steely Dan-fan, I really can understand why you like it. But I think that album could have made by Chicago of that time or Foreigner, I think havenīt noticed difference. I think from the old progbands only Genesis, Yes, Jethro, Caravan and Pink Floyd succeeded in a great way in the eighties, although theyīre also went really eighties sounding, they still also retain at least something from their own identity and sounding. So, I believe my Moodies new albums listening is over (wiki says Sur La Mer is also synth pop, I just canīt listen it more), but wiki also says about "Strange Times" it is acoustic (but has also heavy synth use). What do you think, should I give a try to it?

Going again a little bit Procol, I listened yesterday "Broken Barricades", my opinion hasnīt changed about it, but itīs very possible you could like it at least. Itīs the most "rock" album of Procol and there is still Trower in guitar and doing fine job, anyway that album sounds to me as they havenīt got enough ideas in songs (but there is also "Luskus Delph" that is as great as title song). And have to say there are great moments also in "Procolīs Ninth" (Pandoraīs Box is their veru classic song) & "Something Magic" that I think is lot better than itīs reputation. And really you should listen someday "In Concert With the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra".


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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Really great to hear you like that album too! Donīt Wetton & Chapman do a great duet in "Spanish Tide" (specially in the beginning when Chapman hasnīt got the "goatmotor" in a full power? When liking Fearless I think you will like Bandstand too, I like it really much although it is little bit softer than their previous album. Wetton and other too anyway do great job in it also.

About the Other Side Of Life...it seems you my friend know my taste already really well (you said earlier youīre not sure do I like it). But I donīt think the main problem is not the sounds (yes, donīt like them much too), to me it sounds theyīre left their identity almost wholly (vocals are really great in this album as theyīre always in Moodies album) and made a stadium-pop album to the tastes of US mainstream music listeners (and they really succeeded, it was ninth on the billboard). Of course itīs not totally bad album, it has made really well in the production of Tony Visconti. And when youīre a big Steely Dan-fan, I really can understand why you like it. But I think that album could have made by Chicago of that time or Foreigner, I think havenīt noticed difference. I think from the old progbands only Genesis, Yes, Jethro, Caravan and Pink Floyd succeeded in a great way in the eighties, although theyīre also went really eighties sounding, they still also retain at least something from their own identity and sounding. So, I believe my Moodies new albums listening is over (wiki says Sur La Mer is also synth pop, I just canīt listen it more), but wiki also says about "Strange Times" it is acoustic (but has also heavy synth use). What do you think, should I give a try to it?

Going again a little bit Procol, I listened yesterday "Broken Barricades", my opinion hasnīt changed about it, but itīs very possible you could like it at least. Itīs the most "rock" album of Procol and there is still Trower in guitar and doing fine job, anyway that album sounds to me as they havenīt got enough ideas in songs (but there is also "Luskus Delph" that is as great as title song). And have to say there are great moments also in "Procolīs Ninth" (Pandoraīs Box is their veru classic song) & "Something Magic" that I think is lot better than itīs reputation. And really you should listen someday "In Concert With the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra".


What. A whole album of that Trower guy kicking butt on the guitar? I can't resist this.. I have to listen to that album next and I don't care. Then later I will listen to Bandstand by Family, and then that United States of America deal, and then finally... the debut album by Kansas!

As far as The Other Side of Life, I loved it for some of the very reasons that you didn't. I just thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing, idk. I didn't love Strange Times, I thought it was way too slow.. but you might like it better, who knows. Anyway, ok then I'm off now to listen to Broken Barricades.


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Well I enjoyed that but I certainly wouldn't call it "great." It did have some nice guitar playing from that guy, not on every song but most. The album finished strong at least, those last 3 songs I really enjoyed.

Good but not great album I would say. Far from this bands usual(very high) standards. I did basically like it though.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Well I enjoyed that but I certainly wouldn't call it "great." It did have some nice guitar playing from that guy, not on every song but most. The album finished strong at least, those last 3 songs I really enjoyed.

Good but not great album I would say. Far from this bands usual(very high) standards. I did basically like it though.
I liked it also more last weekened than before. But as I said before, itīs their seventies weakest album, Procolīs Ninth & Something Magic are much better, although not rise into level of their greatest albums.

I think somebody earlier mentioned Trower went after Procol in a very long solo career, I havenīt listened his albums much, but I have his third solo "For Earth Below". I have liked it quite much, it has Hendrix influenced really good guitar rock. And whatīs good think his bass player James Dewar is singing (I donīt think Robin is a very good singer, when he sang some of his songs in Procol, two in Broken Barricades).
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Well I enjoyed that but I certainly wouldn't call it "great." It did have some nice guitar playing from that guy, not on every song but most. The album finished strong at least, those last 3 songs I really enjoyed.

Good but not great album I would say. Far from this bands usual(very high) standards. I did basically like it though.
I liked it also more last weekened than before. But as I said before, itīs their seventies weakest album, Procolīs Ninth & Something Magic are much better, although not rise into level of their greatest albums.

I think somebody earlier mentioned Trower went after Procol in a very long solo career, I havenīt listened his albums much, but I have his third solo "For Earth Below". I have liked it quite much, it has Hendrix influenced really good guitar rock. And whatīs good think his bass player James Dewar is singing (I donīt think Robin is a very good singer, when he sang some of his songs in Procol, two in Broken Barricades).


Ok, as always thank you for the recommendations man. Sounds like there's maybe a couple more Procol albums to check out, and also maybe 1 or 2 from this Trower guy. I like his playing, so really might have to check out some of that solo stuff.

But first, tonight it's the last night of the 'goat man' and his band Family... with the album Bandstand. I've liked every album so far from these guys so let's hopefully finish strong with this one here.
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Yeah, I liked that a lot. The first song and especially Ready To Go were really cool. And all the songs were good. I wish this band had stayed together, they're great instrumentally. And I noticed in this album the lead singer seemed to be making a real effort to keep the 'goat stuff' to a bare minimum. There's VERY little of that in this one.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Yeah, I liked that a lot. The first song and especially Ready To Go were really cool. And all the songs were good. I wish this band had stayed together, they're great instrumentally. And I noticed in this album the lead singer seemed to be making a real effort to keep the 'goat stuff' to a bare minimum. There's VERY little of that in this one.
I like it quite much too, although I think itīs not fully rising into level of earlier five albums. Also for the little goat sound in vocals I have been wondering, did they try to make this album most succesfull of theirs? Anyway it did have some chart positions both in the UK & US, although really wasnīt even near of number one. BTW my fav from this album is ending piece "Top Of the Hill"

There is still one of their album left, "Itīs Only Movie", not a bad album, for example I really like "Buffet Tea For Two" but their weakest anyway.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Really great to hear you like that album too! Donīt Wetton & Chapman do a great duet in "Spanish Tide" (specially in the beginning when Chapman hasnīt got the "goatmotor" in a full power? When liking Fearless I think you will like Bandstand too, I like it really much although it is little bit softer than their previous album. Wetton and other too anyway do great job in it also.

About the Other Side Of Life...it seems you my friend know my taste already really well (you said earlier youīre not sure do I like it). But I donīt think the main problem is not the sounds (yes, donīt like them much too), to me it sounds theyīre left their identity almost wholly (vocals are really great in this album as theyīre always in Moodies album) and made a stadium-pop album to the tastes of US mainstream music listeners (and they really succeeded, it was ninth on the billboard). Of course itīs not totally bad album, it has made really well in the production of Tony Visconti. And when youīre a big Steely Dan-fan, I really can understand why you like it. But I think that album could have made by Chicago of that time or Foreigner, I think havenīt noticed difference. I think from the old progbands only Genesis, Yes, Jethro, Caravan and Pink Floyd succeeded in a great way in the eighties, although theyīre also went really eighties sounding, they still also retain at least something from their own identity and sounding. So, I believe my Moodies new albums listening is over (wiki says Sur La Mer is also synth pop, I just canīt listen it more), but wiki also says about "Strange Times" it is acoustic (but has also heavy synth use). What do you think, should I give a try to it?

Going again a little bit Procol, I listened yesterday "Broken Barricades", my opinion hasnīt changed about it, but itīs very possible you could like it at least. Itīs the most "rock" album of Procol and there is still Trower in guitar and doing fine job, anyway that album sounds to me as they havenīt got enough ideas in songs (but there is also "Luskus Delph" that is as great as title song). And have to say there are great moments also in "Procolīs Ninth" (Pandoraīs Box is their veru classic song) & "Something Magic" that I think is lot better than itīs reputation. And really you should listen someday "In Concert With the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra".


What. A whole album of that Trower guy kicking butt on the guitar? I can't resist this.. I have to listen to that album next and I don't care. Then later I will listen to Bandstand by Family, and then that United States of America deal, and then finally... the debut album by Kansas!

As far as The Other Side of Life, I loved it for some of the very reasons that you didn't. I just thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing, idk. I didn't love Strange Times, I thought it was way too slow.. but you might like it better, who knows. Anyway, ok then I'm off now to listen to Broken Barricades.


If you like In Rock era Deep Purple, then you'll love Broken Barricades. That was the sound Procol was going for with that album.
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Yeah, I liked that a lot. The first song and especially Ready To Go were really cool. And all the songs were good. I wish this band had stayed together, they're great instrumentally. And I noticed in this album the lead singer seemed to be making a real effort to keep the 'goat stuff' to a bare minimum. There's VERY little of that in this one.
I like it quite much too, although I think itīs not fully rising into level of earlier five albums. Also for the little goat sound in vocals I have been wondering, did they try to make this album most succesfull of theirs? Anyway it did have some chart positions both in the UK & US, although really wasnīt even near of number one. BTW my fav from this album is ending piece "Top Of the Hill"

There is still one of their album left, "Itīs Only Movie", not a bad album, for example I really like "Buffet Tea For Two" but their weakest anyway.
 
Bandstand is probably their most 'even' lp and certainly their most polished- With Linda Lewis on backing vocals helping to make it their last attempt to crack America which they had notoriously had difficulty in doing (US audiences just didn't 'get' Family plus some disastrous support slots for Elton John etc plus their famous falling out with Bill Graham after Roger Chapman nearly took his head off with a manically thrown tambourine!) I think its only a movie was definitely a f**k it, its our last lp, lets get drunk and have a good time..

Roger Chapman always said that his vocal heroes were black American blues  and jazz singers, particularly Ray Charles, Louis Armstrong, Howlin' wolf, and he just thought that his singing style was emulating his heroes (as much as a white working class lad from Leicester could) and no-one told him it was an 'unusual' way to sing until Family had recorded and released Dolls house but he was very much supported and encouraged by people like John Peel. It was definitely one of the elements that led to him being a memorable frontman (with his tall stature and aggressive, tambourine destroying persona). But off stage he was quite a shy, quiet man.

Anyway, enough of all that.. im glad you've enjoyed your exploration of the world of FamilyClap

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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I like it quite much too, although I think itīs not fully rising into level of earlier five albums. Also for the little goat sound in vocals I have been wondering, did they try to make this album most succesfull of theirs? Anyway it did have some chart positions both in the UK & US, although really wasnīt even near of number one. BTW my fav from this album is ending piece "Top Of the Hill"

There is still one of their album left, "Itīs Only Movie", not a bad album, for example I really like "Buffet Tea For Two" but their weakest anyway.



Well I was going to stop after the one last night, but you know what... Only one album left, and I've liked all of them so far so I'm gonna do it. Tonight I finish off the Family studio albums with It's Only a Movie. Man I hope this doesn't suck lol.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

If you like In Rock era Deep Purple, then you'll love Broken Barricades. That was the sound Procol was going for with that album.


I listened to it already actually. I liked it but don't considered it as good as those first two albums from them(only because they are REALLY good).

I mean, Broken Barricades is good though you're right.
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Bandstand is probably their most 'even' lp and certainly their most polished- With Linda Lewis on backing vocals helping to make it their last attempt to crack America which they had notoriously had difficulty in doing (US audiences just didn't 'get' Family plus some disastrous support slots for Elton John etc plus their famous falling out with Bill Graham after Roger Chapman nearly took his head off with a manically thrown tambourine!) I think its only a movie was definitely a f**k it, its our last lp, lets get drunk and have a good time..

Roger Chapman always said that his vocal heroes were black American blues  and jazz singers, particularly Ray Charles, Louis Armstrong, Howlin' wolf, and he just thought that his singing style was emulating his heroes (as much as a white working class lad from Leicester could) and no-one told him it was an 'unusual' way to sing until Family had recorded and released Dolls house but he was very much supported and encouraged by people like John Peel. It was definitely one of the elements that led to him being a memorable frontman (with his tall stature and aggressive, tambourine destroying persona). But off stage he was quite a shy, quiet man.

Anyway, enough of all that.. im glad you've enjoyed your exploration of the world of FamilyClap


That's all very interesting. And yeah he's memorable. Clearly seems to be the one from that band that everyone is STILL talking about. If I had been in that band I wouldn't love him being the one getting almost all the attention but he's a memorable character.. It is what it is.

And uh oh, you seem to not be big on this last album here lol. Oh well I already agreed to listen to it tonight so hopefully I won't regret it too much. We'll see what happens I guess.


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Hmmm.. well I guess I BASICALLY liked that. It's wasn't horrible. The only songs I really didn't like were Boots 'n' Roots and Banger. And I thought the last song(Check Out) was really good, I was jamming out to that sh**.

So all in all, reasonably decent album but I agree that it's the worst one from them. All the other 6 I really liked. Great discovery this band was!
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

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Bandstand is probably their most 'even' lp and certainly their most polished- With Linda Lewis on backing vocals helping to make it their last attempt to crack America which they had notoriously had difficulty in doing (US audiences just didn't 'get' Family plus some disastrous support slots for Elton John etc plus their famous falling out with Bill Graham after Roger Chapman nearly took his head off with a manically thrown tambourine!) I think its only a movie was definitely a f**k it, its our last lp, lets get drunk and have a good time..

Roger Chapman always said that his vocal heroes were black American blues  and jazz singers, particularly Ray Charles, Louis Armstrong, Howlin' wolf, and he just thought that his singing style was emulating his heroes (as much as a white working class lad from Leicester could) and no-one told him it was an 'unusual' way to sing until Family had recorded and released Dolls house but he was very much supported and encouraged by people like John Peel. It was definitely one of the elements that led to him being a memorable frontman (with his tall stature and aggressive, tambourine destroying persona). But off stage he was quite a shy, quiet man.

Anyway, enough of all that.. im glad you've enjoyed your exploration of the world of FamilyClap


That's all very interesting. And yeah he's memorable. Clearly seems to be the one from that band that everyone is STILL talking about. If I had been in that band I wouldn't love him being the one getting almost all the attention but he's a memorable character.. It is what it is.

It was quite typical in sixties/seventies there was a frontman that got all the attention. Of course everybody else werenīt always satisfied about that (for example in Genesis). But have to remember in Family as in many other great sixties/seventies bands there were always really great musicians, without them Roger would have been nothing and those great albums didnīt exist. And also itīs very possible it was totally ok to Family members Roger got the attention.
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