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    Posted: April 13 2020 at 11:39
It doesn't have to be progressive, just any double or triple album. Mine is The Clash's Sandinista. It's pretty good but it's at least one whole LP too long and could easily be made a single or a double. Here's my single version:

  1. The Magnificent Seven
  2. Charlie Don't Surf
  3. Police On My Back
  4. Somebody Got Murdered
  5. The Call Up
  6. One More Time
  7. Lose This Skin
  8. Hitsville UK
  9. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here)
  10. Something About England
  11. Washington Bullets
  12. The Sound Of Sinners
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Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.
 

The live out-takes from the Ummagumma sessions plus other material they were playing at the time could easily have boosted it back up to completely and very very good double live lp… Wink

Incantations by Mike Oldfield has some lovely themes but is just padded out too much- the live version on Exposed covers most of those theme and represents the album more powerfully over 2 sides than the original does.

I'm not going to mention the obvious one...

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.

I have to respectfully disagree on both of those. The Wall is (IMHO) the greatest album ever made and the live stuff from Ummagumma should have been a standalone album with just the studio stuff left on Ummagumma, but adding Embryo and Careful With That Axe Eugene.
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.
 

The live out-takes from the Ummagumma sessions plus other material they were playing at the time could easily have boosted it back up to completely and very very good double live lp… Wink

Incantations by Mike Oldfield has some lovely themes but is just padded out too much- the live version on Exposed covers most of those theme and represents the album more powerfully over 2 sides than the original does.

I'm not going to mention the obvious one...

I was going to suggest Incantations myself, but I do love it just the way it is.

Would the obvious one involve a British band known for infighting, multiple line ups, court cases & curries on keyboards?
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Originally posted by GoliathTMV GoliathTMV wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.

I have to respectfully disagree on both of those. The Wall is (IMHO) the greatest album ever made and the live stuff from Ummagumma should have been a standalone album with just the studio stuff left on Ummagumma, but adding Embryo and Careful With That Axe Eugene.

If you are suggesting the Ummagumma live material should have been a double album without any of the studio solo stuff I 100% agree with you.
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The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. A load of needless noodling about on that double album. One album of solid stuff.

Edited by The Dark Elf - April 13 2020 at 13:25
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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

The Astonishing
Great album but have to agree.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. A load of needless noodling about on that double album. One album of solid stuff.
While it could be a single album if you tried I think it would be tough.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.
 

The live out-takes from the Ummagumma sessions plus other material they were playing at the time could easily have boosted it back up to completely and very very good double live lp… Wink

Incantations by Mike Oldfield has some lovely themes but is just padded out too much- the live version on Exposed covers most of those theme and represents the album more powerfully over 2 sides than the original does.

I'm not going to mention the obvious one...

I was going to suggest Incantations myself, but I do love it just the way it is.

Would the obvious one involve a British band known for infighting, multiple line ups, court cases & curries on keyboards?
TFTO?
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Two immediately come to mind.....The Wall and Tales by Yes.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. A load of needless noodling about on that double album. One album of solid stuff.

Agree !
And I’d expand Topographic to 6 sides. Two more of those mammoth tracks would be fantastic !!
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Tales, yes. Wall, no
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.
 

The live out-takes from the Ummagumma sessions plus other material they were playing at the time could easily have boosted it back up to completely and very very good double live lp… Wink

Incantations by Mike Oldfield has some lovely themes but is just padded out too much- the live version on Exposed covers most of those theme and represents the album more powerfully over 2 sides than the original does.

I'm not going to mention the obvious one...

I was going to suggest Incantations myself, but I do love it just the way it is.

Would the obvious one involve a British band known for infighting, multiple line ups, court cases & curries on keyboards?
 

Yep.. I think others have got there.. didn't think it would take longLOL

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Originally posted by GoliathTMV GoliathTMV wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Far be it for me to suggest artistic editing but the main culprit for me is The Wall which has about 1 albums worth of good material. Ummagumma could also have been just the live album.

I have to respectfully disagree on both of those. The Wall is (IMHO) the greatest album ever made and the live stuff from Ummagumma should have been a standalone album with just the studio stuff left on Ummagumma, but adding Embryo and Careful With That Axe Eugene.

Here's my opinion on how I would have done it. Make the live album a double. I know they only had maybe three studio albums out at the time but they could have done some improv stuff and maybe even a cover tune. Then make the studio stuff also a double but have one whole side for each musician. Yeah, it would have been even more self indulgent but so what. You only live once. Plus ELP did it. :P So, Ummagumma in my opinion should at least have been a triple album imo if they were going to do part live and part studio. Yessongs was a triple and that's only from three studio albums worth of material(not counting the Rick Wakeman solo album bits). 


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Anyway, the two albums imo that should have been a single are TFTO and Lamb. I actually like the wall the way as it is. There might be some padding but not as much as the other two.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 13 2020 at 14:31
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"ELP did it" is not a good reason for anything LOLWink
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The only time it's not a good excuse is if you want to shoot the cover of Love Beach. LOL
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Originally posted by GoliathTMV GoliathTMV wrote:

The only time it's not a good excuse is if you want to shoot the cover of Love Beach. LOL
 
Ive got my air rifle ready and the album propped up amongst the rhubarb....

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