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Guldbamsen 
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 Posted: March 23 2020 at 03:31 |
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Indeed
 The perfect warm up music for Bloodsport, Kickboxer and Double Impact. |
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Posted: March 23 2020 at 03:37 |
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At least it's better than Tony Banks, who's been doing the same thing in recent times, except in reverse order
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Posted: March 23 2020 at 03:42 |
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That reminds me. How many are Focus up to by now? I seem to remember the album 11...yet if you count how many albums they’ve released...well the numbers don’t add up...unless PA has got it all wrong of course (which is likely)
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Posted: May 20 2021 at 17:20 |
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Came to the site looking for a review of the Softs at the Paradiso, which I saw in a record shop for $5 on CD; I was wary of the sound quality, so I wanted to get opinions, but when I cruised the Top 100 for a Soft album to click on to lead me to their page, I couldn't find any of their albums on the bloody list! I saw their brother bands - Caravan, Khan, the Hatfields, Gong, even a Wyatt album, but no Soft Machine.
Didn't Three used to be a Top 20 PA album? Either way, I'd take Three over a chunk of that list.....and Three is probably my fifth or sixth favorite Softs album. Edited by Intruder - May 20 2021 at 17:21 |
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Posted: May 20 2021 at 17:31 |
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I just saw this, about a year late. What about Peter Gabriel? His first few albums just had odd pictures on the cover, and folks just shrugged and gave them equally weird names after the fact (Car, Scratch, Melt). Then he started using two-letter adverbs, adjectives and pronouns: So, Up, Us. |
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Posted: May 20 2021 at 23:10 |
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I honestly don't know... 'Third' should definitely be there, but it's not. Nothing we can do.
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Posted: May 21 2021 at 01:23 |
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I wouldn't expect Soft Machine to have Bundles of albums in the Top 100, but I would've expected to see at least one album there and hopefully it would be Land of Cockayne - not to be confused with the Eric Clapton song: Land of Cocaine.
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Posted: May 21 2021 at 01:45 |
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But actually Land of Cockayne is not really a SM album. It was a
solo album by one of their members, who btw wasn't one of the legendary
original members, and that album was just sold under the SM moniker,
and nobody cared for that then. Hmm, I
never tried to hear that. I actually stopped with Seven (which is
already way weaker than the previous albums), and have only a CD sampler
of their later output, and this sampler rightfully does not contain
material from the Cockayne land. |
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I was crazy about those tracks when I was a little kid. Bruce Springsteen-like cadence and a healthy shot of 80s testosteron 
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I've never had a problem with the first 4 PG albums (it's actually one of my go-to music quiz questions) in fact I never knew they had these other titles such as "Melt" until I joined PA. I'm ok with So but still get confused by Up and Us.
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Hard to explain given that both Third and Fourth charted in the UK (the first album made Billboard in the US).
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Posted: May 21 2021 at 05:48 |
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Third got review bombed by a few people who didn’t immediately love it or understand it after a single listen. Anyways, I think Bundles is their best album, but I know that’s unpopular.
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Posted: May 21 2021 at 05:56 |
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Very strange. Maybe it's another case of "it's not symphonic prog!"
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Posted: May 21 2021 at 06:23 |
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Don't worry, you're not the only one. I much prefer Bundles to Soft Machine's earlier albums too.
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Hi, This is one of the reasons why the TOP 100 should not have the same band listed for another album within it ... instead it should say "Band A - 1, 2 and 3" or something similar. Were the list trimmed down from the over abundance of crap listed and 3 and 4 albums by at least a few bands, the list would easily include 15 to 20 other bands ... but, again, my concern is that the list is not about the music ... it's about FANBOYS and FANDOM! So sad to think that was originally started as "progressive" music became only known for its "fanstuff" ... and not the music itself ... how weird, and off center is that? And it destroys the ability of new bands to create new material, because now it's not about the music, it's about the "sound" ... !!!!
(... ohhh I forgot ... the blue guitar and the flaming organ and the .... for those that don't know what music is all about!)Edited by moshkito - May 21 2021 at 07:30 |
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Hi, In general, you have to drop off any ideas about "music" and what it is supposed to have or not have. In those days, the "difference" was important, and helped make the music come alive, but what you are saying is that there weren't any bands in NY, SF, LA, Paris, Tokyo. Rome ... that did not do the same thing or differently so. If you listen to ANYTHING with ideas or thoughts about the things that "you like" ... too many of the new things you hear will not click. One of the highlights of my career of having music around me, has been ... when you hear so much and enjoy so much ... you can not even decide which is better or worse ... because you learn to fly and flow with all of it regardless ... and SOFT MACHINE was not a weird one ... it was a well defined thing that changed a lot and made sure it did not get stuck in "jazz standards" ... let's just say that it was Miles non stop ... something that a lot of folks here can not handle at all! But they can handle RW repeating his riffs on another synthesizer to give you an idea of what "musicianship" is all about! You can also get a better idea about all this if you read Robert Wyatt's book ... one of the best ever written, and the understanding and appreciation for something different, comes alive ... but, sadly, it is not something that most "progressive" folks can stomach ... how sad that is ... the end of progressive music!
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Posted: May 21 2021 at 09:53 |
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There's probably a lot of important and or classic albums that aren't in the top 100.
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Posted: May 21 2021 at 10:07 |
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I bet Khan's Space Shanty album isn't in the Top 100 either, even though it's a highly-regarded Canterbury Scene album.
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What are we betting? I'd love footy season tickets. I'll be kind and stay on the cheap side of Trent and take Magpies' tickets (spoiler: they have been my adopted English underdog for some time). Anyway, Space Shanty is 71. I would argue that is a bit lofty. But to each, there own.
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