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New member looking for new progressive albums. And I vehemently mean progressive. Repackaging old sounds and giving them a contemporary slant does not work for me. I want something innovative, something out-of-control that I can't remain careless to, notes that act as characters with every intent and purpose behind them, whole albums that move the genre forward in a new way--something that progresses. An overly emotive and "darker" Foxtrot (looking at you IQ's Dark Matter) or a reiteration of Close To The Edge (From Silence To Somewhere) does not do that in any mileage. Those sounds were cutting-edge for their time, but now in my opinion. Any sub-genre of progressive music is fine as long as you think it fits this parameter.
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My favourite 21st century album is "Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second", which can be downloaded from http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html for free.
 
 
 
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Well no not any subgenre will do. If those are your parameters then you will want to stay away from neo prog and any modern symphonic prog and probably most crossover prog(imo). You're most likely going to find what you are looking for in eclectic prog and rio/avant prog.

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That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and "Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.

Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
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Polygondwanaland by King Gizzard and A drop of light by All Traps On Earth were both pretty mind blowing to me
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Originally posted by Restinmacaroni Restinmacaroni wrote:

That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and "Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.

Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.

For symph maybe Birds and Building, Anglagard and All Traps on Earth(as was mentioned). Those do have some echoes of the past apparently but maybe not enough to drive you away not sure. Out of those I'm really only famililar with Anglagard and while there is some hints of the past they have their own sound and are doing their own thing. I guess it really boils down to how picky you are going to be. A band can be original and still have a sound that has influences from the past but I guess it depends on how they present those influences. If they are too easily identifiable then that could be a deal breaker for some(and frankly that sounds like it would be for you). So sample them on youtube first and see what you think.

The thing with post rock and math rock is that a lot of it seems to just sound the same after a while. Imo, it's hard to find truly original stuff in that area unless you go back aways so maybe start with the earlier ones. I would say maybe Godspeed You Black Emperor is a good one but I'm not really an expert so others will have to advise you more on that. 


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Originally posted by Restinmacaroni Restinmacaroni wrote:

That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and "Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.

Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
 

Do you like jazz, or elements of jazz, in your musical mix, or are you trying to stick to rock? Japan produces an inordinately high number of bands that you may like. Also, the RIO (Rock-In-Opposition) scene may be your bag. You can check for RIO bands (Cuneiform Records specializes in many) in the archives. If you already like bands like Univers Zero and Present, you're already on your way.

Il Berlione (Japan)
Bondage Fruit (Japan)
Ruins (Japan)
Koenji Hyakkei (Japan)
Sammla Mammas Manna (Swedish '70s experimental band that reformed for a couple albums 20 years ago)
Thinking Plague (US)
Tipographica (Japan)
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Restinmacaroni Restinmacaroni wrote:

That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and "Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.

Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.

For symph maybe Birds and Building, Anglagard and All Traps on Earth(as was mentioned). Those do have some echoes of the past apparently but maybe not enough to drive you away not sure. Out of those I'm really only famililar with Anglagard and while there is some hints of the past they have their own sound and are doing their own thing. I guess it really boils down to how picky you are going to be. A band can be original and still have a sound that has influences from the past but I guess it depends on how they present those influences. If they are too easily identifiable then that could be a deal breaker for some(and frankly that sounds like it would be for you). So sample them on youtube first and see what you think.


I've actually listened to all three. All Traps On Earth and Birds and Buildings are probably the better ones for me. Some extraordinary musicianship I'll say, but not anything that pushes the envelop enough like the experimental musicianship and wizardry of Battles's "Mirrored" or the bizarre sonic identity of Secret Chiefs 3's "Book M", being RIO with dashes of Chamber and Arab Music as well as eccentricities as Jazz and, to a lesser extent, Noise (not to say that Battles's debut does not also have a mindblowing sonic identity itself).
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Restinmacaroni Restinmacaroni wrote:

That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and "Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.

Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
 

Do you like jazz, or elements of jazz, in your musical mix, or are you trying to stick to rock? Japan produces an inordinately high number of bands that you may like. Also, the RIO (Rock-In-Opposition) scene may be your bag. You can check for RIO bands (Cuneiform Records specializes in many) in the archives. If you already like bands like Univers Zero and Present, you're already on your way.

Il Berlione (Japan)
Bondage Fruit (Japan)
Ruins (Japan)
Koenji Hyakkei (Japan)
Sammla Mammas Manna (Swedish '70s experimental band that reformed for a couple albums 20 years ago)
Thinking Plague (US)
Tipographica (Japan)



Many thanks for the recommendations. An absolutely on jazz, and RIO is definitely a hero of the sub-genres for me. I can't say I've listened to the two bands mentioned on your last statement, but I am fairly familiar with acts like Miriodor and Cardiacs, though the latter I would say fits more into its own kind of  "Prank"(Progressive, Avant, and Punk) identity. On another note, I am festering a growing interest in Zeuhl as well, but I haven't really listened or discovered any new Zeuhl bands.
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Three albums that I like that are quite unusual:
 
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens
The Mercury Tree - Spidermilk
Helium Horse Fly - Helium Horse Fly
 
 
 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Three albums that I like that are quite unusual:
 
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens
The Mercury Tree - Spidermilk
Helium Horse Fly - Helium Horse Fly
 
 
 

Again, many thanks for the recommendations. Haven't heard any of these.
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Originally posted by Restinmacaroni Restinmacaroni wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Restinmacaroni Restinmacaroni wrote:

That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and "Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.

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Do you like jazz, or elements of jazz, in your musical mix, or are you trying to stick to rock? Japan produces an inordinately high number of bands that you may like. Also, the RIO (Rock-In-Opposition) scene may be your bag. You can check for RIO bands (Cuneiform Records specializes in many) in the archives. If you already like bands like Univers Zero and Present, you're already on your way.

Il Berlione (Japan)
Bondage Fruit (Japan)
Ruins (Japan)
Koenji Hyakkei (Japan)
Sammla Mammas Manna (Swedish '70s experimental band that reformed for a couple albums 20 years ago)
Thinking Plague (US)
Tipographica (Japan)



Many thanks for the recommendations. An absolutely on jazz, and RIO is definitely a hero of the sub-genres for me. I can't say I've listened to the two bands mentioned on your last statement, but I am fairly familiar with acts like Miriodor and Cardiacs, though the latter I would say fits more into its own kind of  "Prank"(Progressive, Avant, and Punk) identity. On another note, I am festering a growing interest in Zeuhl as well, but I haven't really listened or discovered any new Zeuhl bands.
 

For Zeuhl, definitely check out Japan's Koenji Hyakkei. Four albums, so far. 

Also from Japan, with two albums: Amygdala.
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There is so much out there, but here are a couple to get you started.
Kayo Dot - "Choirs of the Eye"
 
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - "Of Natural History"
 
The three recommendations made by I Prophesy Disaster are excellent and released just last year.


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^ Yeah, I think for new new prog, you've got to point out modern avant/rio and match post rock artists as I think they're ones that are really pushing boundaries and coming up with something new.
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French TV, Animals as Leaders, Jaga Jazzist, Body Hound, Ske, Marco Minnemann, Trioscapes, Nova Collective, Bubblemath, Richard Henshall, Virgil Donati, Thank You Scientist, The Aristocrats, and Mike Keneally.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

French TV, Animals as Leaders, Jaga Jazzist, Body Hound, Ske, Marco Minnemann, Trioscapes, Nova Collective, Bubblemath, Richard Henshall, Virgil Donati, Thank You Scientist, The Aristocrats, and Mike Keneally.
Whew, that's an impressive list. I didn't know that was your style of prog. Shocked

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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

There is so much out there, but here are a couple to get you started.
Kayo Dot - "Choirs of the Eye"
 
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - "Of Natural History"
 
The three recommendations made by I Prophesy Disaster are excellent and released just last year.


Thanks for the recommendations, and apologies for the late response--got busy. I haven't heard any of these.
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French TV, Animals as Leaders, Jaga Jazzist, Body Hound, Ske, Marco Minnemann, Trioscapes, Nova Collective, Bubblemath, Richard Henshall, Virgil Donati, Thank You Scientist, The Aristocrats, and Mike Keneally.


A nice list. I can recognize a few artists/bands there, but otherwise it seems to mostly be new things (for me).
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