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Poll Question: Which British Prog band had the best debut album?
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^That's true but it doesn't change anything. A lot of bands from the original British invasion changed their sound within a few years including the Beatles and Stones who also did covers in their early days.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^That's true but it doesn't change anything. A lot of bands from the original British invasion changed their sound within a few years including the Beatles and Stones who also did covers in their early days.

Whatever, dude. With the Beatles and the Stones, it was a gradual evolution from album to album, year to year, over several releases. There is a radical difference between The Magnificent Moodies and DoFP, and a 40% change in bandmembers (or 2/5ths, if you prefer). Completely different genre of rock, completely different compositional style, even an influx of different instrumentation.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2020 at 21:26
They just spanned the time periods.  As did The Beatles and The Stones, and in the US Love, for instance. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2020 at 21:35
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^That's true but it doesn't change anything. A lot of bands from the original British invasion changed their sound within a few years including the Beatles and Stones who also did covers in their early days.

Whatever, dude. With the Beatles and the Stones, it was a gradual evolution from album to album, year to year, over several releases. There is a radical difference between The Magnificent Moodies and DoFP, and a 40% change in bandmembers (or 2/5ths, if you prefer). Completely different genre of rock, completely different compositional style, even an influx of different instrumentation.

Oh no! Not a very different lineup change! A different sound too! Oh, the horrors. Regardless, none of that means that DoFP should be considered their first album(or debut) no matter how you want to slice it. 
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Tought poll, I gave ELP some love!
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Tought poll, I gave ELP some love!

Same here. It's their best imo(no filler "cowboy songs"). 
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Ummm Paul, you forgot to include Khan?
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Definitely KC!
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ELP 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 00:31
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ i'm giving you a hard time, dude! LOL
i'm haunting you with your own suggestion LOL

Just kidding of course. I can see why you thought they might fit in especially on the second album with some indo-raga influences. Great pop band for sure. Def not prog.

Of course on this list i have to vote for KC. There would be no prog revolution without them and it is one of the best albums ever recorded.

It's good to see King Crimson have won the poll by a wide margin - and deservedly so - although I voted for the Moody Blues. Smile
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Wasn't The Moody Blues debut "The Magnificent Moodies?"  
 
Yes, I mentioned that "Days of Future Passed" wasn't the Moody Blues first album in the introduction to my poll. Smile
 
I didn't include "The Magnificent Moodies" in the poll for the same reason that The Dark Elf very eloquently stated earlier. The Moody Blues were a totally different band with a new sound and a new line-up in 1967 and a far cry from their 1965 roots as a Birmingham beat band. Smile


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 24 2020 at 00:56
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

First ELP album for me. Not a bad track on it and no song with two good minutes then ten minutes of noodling. Wink
 

except Take A Pebble Wink
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Ummm Paul, you forgot to include Khan?
 
I thought of Khan but I ran out of room to include them, having already used up all 25 poll options. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 00:50
As ELP aren't going to win the poll so I voted for Procol Harum forgetting that it was their 1968 album that I was thinking of lol.
Although not on the list, The Nice - The Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjack was an important album. There were many bands of the time (Yes , Genesis and Deep Purple to name but 3) who took note of this band . The debut with Davy O'List is the best . There are a couple of powerhouse instrumental tracks Rondo and War and Peace that put the organ right at the front of the music. Of course it was the mighty Keith Emerson starting to flex his muscles big time!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:20
Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I've not heard them all, but of those I know, ELP is my favourite debut, closely followed by The Enid, Moody Blues and KC fairly equally.

I think the Moody Blues had an album out before DOFP though. DOFP is their debut album, in the same way that Trespass is the Genesis debut.
 
I was conveniently ignoring the fact that "Days of Future Passed" isn't the Moody Blues debut album just so I could vote for it. I know they released an album titled "The Magnificent Moodies" back in 1965, but "Days of Future Passed" was the first proggy album with the classic line-up. Wink


Sorry for the nitpick but that's cheating a bit. By that logic, From Genesis To Revelation also shouldn't be on the list because it's in a style that's not prog and which the band never pursued again afterwards. Or what about Renaissance's debut, which didn't involve a single person from the band's "classic" line-up?
The main difference is that Genesis and Renaissance were both prog bands right from the beginning, but the Moody Blues were a Birmingham beat band back in 1965 and not the slightest bit proggy, and besides, I doubt if anyone would have voted for "The Magnificent Moodies" 1965 album in a prog poll. Smile
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I'm going with the Hawks this time.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:41
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

It's good to see King Crimson have won the poll by a wide margin - and deservedly so - although I voted for the Moody Blues. Smile
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:45
One thing that is notable about this list of albums is how many album names are the same as the name of the artist.
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Enchant X Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:50
When I first saw this poll I thought this is easy King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King but there are a few good ones, it wasn't so easy I went with King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King just slightly ahead of ELP 

Edited by Enchant X - January 24 2020 at 01:51
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