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^ aaah. Roj has loads of ambient trance in his collection. For somebody who listens to repetitive bass, drum and synth for hours, claiming the new IQ to be samey???

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2019 at 01:59
IQ have trodden a well worn formula for a long time and as Barney mentions it would be a mistake to veer that far away from it. I'm enjoying it immensely and it will probably be my prog album of the year although that's from only about the 30 odd that I've managed to listen to. Neil Durant has added some interesting stuff on the programming side and kept some freshness in the sound from my ears point of view. The band are playing as well as I've heard. I must admit I never made the connection to Awaken for any of the tracks although I hear a much more symphonic style than before and a band that is totally comfortable in its skin.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2019 at 11:24
^ The last track, when the solo piano kicks in. Uses very similar chord progression to the superb Awaken. I am sure that IQ are aware of their nod to an absolute prog classic and is similar to the similarities betwixt Harvest of souls and suppers ready...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2019 at 00:04
I've just remembered that it's not the first time IQ have nodded towards Awaken. One of their early classic tracks ..name that track? ( I would award a prize but this should be easy!)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2019 at 01:23
Probably one off The Wake. Dans Le Parc Du Chateau Noir is a nod towards firth of fifth as I recall...

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The magic Roundabout?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2019 at 23:46
Its a little guitar refrain right at the end of Widows Peak (if I remember right) although I now feel I should have a listen to be sure 
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it's good but it's not 4.40 good. Confused
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Received in the mail today......It's an excellent album!! Nuff said...

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Too much to listen to right now, think I'll save it and unwrap at Christmas.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2019 at 00:05
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Received in the mail today......It's an excellent album!! Nuff said...

 

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How much was the vinyl?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2019 at 01:17
Oh aye. Widows peak. I have so many cd's now its hard for me to auralise a song in my head. Especially one from a cd I've not listened to for several years...

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

How much was the vinyl?

It's a 3-LP set, $50 from Greg Walker. The black I think is $45........It's a real nice deep blood red in a tri-fold sleeve with digital download card.
The synth bass is excellent, pressurizes the room nicely. Bones is a 4.5 on SQ, mix and production, this one is 4.0 a bit less on the SQ and mix but still excellent sounding record! 



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^ looks cool...The red vinyl even cooler...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2019 at 06:11
I'd just like to clarify that my disappointment was that from two full discs there was relatively little that totally blew me away.

The Great Spirit Way however does just that.  It's already one of their best tracks imho and possibly their best ever epic.  It's a shame about the closing epic.  That too is really good for the first 11 minutes.  All is building for a great crescendo and then suddenly Awaken kicks in.  The middle two tracks on disc 2 have certainly grown on me but I have to say disc one is a little underwhelming bar the opener and the closer.  The 3 minute track is pretty good too but the overall impression is that disc 1 is very similar throughout, nothing really stands out.  Just my two cents. 

I would place the last 2 IQ albums towards the lower end of their body of work.  However, with Constellations and The Great Spirit Way they have produced two absolute classic tracks, right up there with the best they've ever done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2019 at 09:04
Originally posted by Roj Roj wrote:

 The final piece on disc two is almost Awaken revisited.  I love Awaken, my favourite piece of music of all time.  I have no objection to adopting the style of bands past, but pretty much lifting the piece?  No, I really struggle with that.


I'm always torn between which I like better: "Gates of Delirium" or "Awaken." I've gone back and forth for years. Right now I'm in a phase that favors "Gates" cuz it blows me away, start to finish, every time I listen whereas I find myself kind of tuning out during "Awaken" after the "workings of man" organ section. Plus, I think of "Awaken" as Wakeman's attempt to one-up Moraz using the same format.

Anyway, this leads to my point relative to this discussion thread: That last song, "Fallout," feels/sounds to me like a lift of the form and sounds of "Gates of Delirium"--which was then kind of reinterpreted in 1977 with "Awaken." Choose your poison: there is some serious YES familiarity to this song--too much so, which, as Roj says--and I share this opinion--makes it its failing.

P.S. How can one tell if "autotune" is being employed?  
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^ however, every track will have similar tracks elsewhere in the vast amount of music produced in the last 200 years....I think it makes the track better as I like the interpretation of the yes classic. Disc 2 is awesome from start to finish...
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And anyway...The longest track alone makes it a 5 star release since its an epic which stands comparison with the epics of he past....more ELP influence than I first realised....I reckon the new keysman is an Emerson fan....
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Maybe I gotta revisit this one

Especially since sillypuppy gave it a good review

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