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Is Resistance By IQ really that good? |
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progaardvark 
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 Posted: October 19 2019 at 11:46 |
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I ordered this yesterday. Ever since "Ever" I've made it a custom to always buy the next IQ album (when I can remember).
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sukmytoe
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Posted: October 19 2019 at 12:54 |
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You won't be sorry but it may take a few listens to really get to grips with it. I don't know that it tops Road of Bones but it's pretty damn close.
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dauinghorn
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Posted: October 24 2019 at 05:33 |
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I can't understand why this is rated so high... It's "Hi-Fi" music overfilled with FX sounds, uninventive chord progressions and a lot of autotune on the vocals. If this is Prog rock today, count me out.
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mathman0806
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Posted: October 24 2019 at 07:06 |
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It's ok. I prefer Road of Bones, Frequency, and Dark Matter. It sounds really good, well produced and played, but lacks in memorable songs.
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M27Barney
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Posted: October 24 2019 at 10:05 |
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Depends what you want? Are you an avant garde officionado? If so I suggest listening to random farmyard effects CDs played simultaneously whilst living next to a busy railway station or motorway...also auto tune your saucepan and use a slightly heavier spoon to rattle it... |
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dauinghorn
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Posted: October 25 2019 at 06:39 |
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No, I like music that sounds like it's played by musicians. This just sounds like a computer generated some default modern apocalyptic symphonic hard rock album. Just to compare... Listen to the latest Needlepoint album "Robert Reverie". That's great musicians playing together, making inventive, catchy and honest music, not just some big studio production with endless overdubs.
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M27Barney
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Posted: October 25 2019 at 07:48 |
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^ so presumably you think that the IQ band members are all Thomas Dolby clones? I have added the suggestion into my purchasing list. However I have the new Opeth to listen to as well...but I suppose Mikael Akerfeldt isn't a proper musician either...
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dauinghorn
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Posted: October 25 2019 at 17:00 |
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He definitely is a great musician, but I don't love his music anymore. Damnation is a killer album, Heritage is OK, Deliverance has incredible moments. Maybe it's the modern productions I can't stand. I have "The Wake" by IQ on vinyl, and I like that record. But this new stuff... It just sounds computer generated. And the worst thing is the autotuned vocals. It just takes the humanity out of the music.
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progaardvark
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Posted: October 25 2019 at 19:56 |
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I finally got around to listening to this. Being a 2-CD album, it's quite a challenge to maintain high quality over 108 minutes of music. I don't think this quite succeeds at that. The first three tracks on disc 1 are fantastic. It seems to slip for me with Alampandria, comes back with a nice return on Shallow Bay, but If Anything causes it to slip again for me. For Another Lifetime ends disc 1 on a good note, but it feels like it drags on a bit. A solid four stars for disc 1.
Disc 2 is my favorite of the two discs. If they had released disc 2 all by itself, I think I would consider it the best album IQ ever made. At least at the moment. With repeated listens I might change my mind (as we all do). So overall, I think I would give it 4.5. I enjoyed disc 2 so much that I would round it up instead of down. I understand Nicholls' vocals can be an acquired taste for some. They are rather monotonic, but that style of singing clicks with IQ's music for some reason. I can't imagine the post-1980s IQ without Nicholls. It just wouldn't be the same. I think this album might be the best singing he's done for the band. Cook's drumming was also impressive. My guess is the PA rating will probably eventually land somewhere between 3.90 and 4.15 in another two years or so. I could be wrong.
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richardh
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Posted: October 25 2019 at 23:46 |
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I totally agree about Disc Two and the comment 'it could be the best IQ album ever' . 4 perfect tracks and flows beautifully. The problem (if there is one) with IQ is that they only release an album occasionally (every 5 years or so) so I guess a double has became mandatory. Perhaps it's more economically efficient . I mean after all they have never made a ton a money out of it and it's almost a borderline hobby for them. And to address some of the previous poster's concerns about 'Autotune'. Pete's vocals are tremendous for me and I doubt they are autotuned . If so then where is the proof? He has a style. The main criticism of him in the past is of being too winey but he has got past that from Seventh House onwards imo. But of course there is no rule that anyone should like his vocal I would just like some substance behind a blatant insult.
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M27Barney
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Posted: October 26 2019 at 03:05 |
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I definately think its a must for any symph fan. The use of mellotron is wonderful and the second disc will grow on me I'm certain to the point of being their best "ever". Deffo 5star++ release. The best release of 2019? Just pips the new Opeth and only the new flokis release can knock it off it's perch...
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Posted: October 26 2019 at 05:45 |
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If anything sounds straight off of we can’t dance
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M27Barney
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Posted: October 26 2019 at 07:26 |
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^ not heard that but IQ have always had a slower beat track (barbell is in)...No.genesis album had three epics...what is your point?
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Posted: October 26 2019 at 09:16 |
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Who is flokis?
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 26 2019 at 10:31 |
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That sums it up for me also......  |
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M27Barney
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Posted: October 26 2019 at 12:03 |
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dougmcauliffe
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Posted: October 26 2019 at 14:47 |
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I’m saying it’s sh*t 
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Posted: October 28 2019 at 07:50 |
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I've been with IQ right from the start and have to say I'm pretty disappointed with this.
I find a great deal of it to be extremely same-y. The Great Spirit Way is an exception - that's an outstanding piece of music and one I'd place in my IQ Top 10 almost immediately. A Missile is ok and the last track on disc one, easily the best on that disc, raises things a notch. The final piece on disc two is almost Awaken revisited. I love Awaken, my favourite piece of music of all time. I have no objection to adopting the style of bands past, but pretty much lifting the piece? No, I really struggle with that. The length of the entire thing is not an issue for me, only that the relative lack of inspiring moments in that entire length is a disappointment. Are they starting to miss Martin Orford's creativity? I suspect so.
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M27Barney
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Posted: November 02 2019 at 05:00 |
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IQ sort of always add a bit of classic prog to a track. I have no problem with dishing out "more of the same" if its playing what I like. The 2nd disc is brilliant for its entire length. The first disc is relegated to merely very good by the brilliance of the second disc. Its good that IQ are sticking to what they have done in tje past. The latest attempts by Pendragon to create prog metal are an example of NOT doing what you were good at...
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Posted: November 02 2019 at 09:17 |
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Hmm.....Reading all these posts I'm still hoping to be hit in the face with "that was wow!!". As some of you know I am 99% vinyl so like the CD release that was delayed so was the vinyl version. Greg at Syn-phonic has received them and hoping to have my copy next week. It's a 3-LP set as is Road of Bones, i have ZERO issue with the length, it is a prog based band and songs so why would we expect a 55min album?? That's cra-cra!! I'm bummed it's not 200 min long  I think IQ do have a same-same sound on their albums, it does not bother me much as long as it keeps me interested and paying attention. Although this from Roj is unsettling.....ughhh!
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