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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2019 at 06:09
A second whistleblower:

Andrew Bakaj, a member of the first whistleblower's legal team, tweeted that his firm is representing multiple whistleblowers:
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2019 at 07:15
The Trump Derangement Crowd doesn't get it.   In their insane ploy to tar-and-feather Trump,  the Dems throw Biden into the wood chipper.  Bye-bye Biden.   Hunter Biden?  The albatross around Biden's neck.   Hunter sleeps with his Brother's wife.  Hunter's brother dies, then Hunter leaves his wife and marries his brother's wife.  Then Hunter leaves brother's wife for another wife.  Then Hunter Biden gets kicked out of Military for cocaine and crack pipes. (Imagine what would happen if Trump's sons did that?)   

Boy, did Hunter Biden land on his feet, crackpipe in hand.  Without any related degrees or experience, Hunter gets hired for 3 million a year by Ukrainian company that fracks.  I thought Liberals hated fracking?   Ukraine prosecutor investigates.  Papa Biden to the rescue. Daddy Biden threatens Ukraine, with canceling a 1.5 billion dollars of aide, if they won't fire the prosecutor investigating Hunter.  A few hours later?  Fired!


 Camera's rolling, Biden brags about billion bribe to save his son.  What's that on a 1-10 corruption scale?  A solid 5?  Maybe a 6?  If Trump did the exact same thing, would you impeach him?  

 Media and Dems thrash Trump for treason because he pointed out corruption.   Really?  That's like cops arresting witnesses to a bank robberies for identifying the Robbers.  

"How dare you identify bank robbers!  You deserve to die!  You interfered with bank robbers earning a living!" 

 Hunter Biden and China? That's worse.   China's government gave Hunter over a Billion dollars!   No wonder Daddy Biden is soft on China.  Biden is a Chinese puppet.   What would happen if China gave Trump's son a Billion dollars?  Would you impeach Trump?   Would Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers' be OK with that?  I don't think so.    Watch the video and pretend Trump is saying what Biden said.  




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2019 at 13:06
Here is an interesting take on how the Kremlin is benefiting from the Trump-Ukraine scandal...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2019 at 13:48
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

There are a lot of cliches and stereotypes that keep getting used on here that certainly don't apply to me.
I'm not a socialist or even a democrat, I'm an independent.

I don't hate hollywood donald (or at least I try not to), nor does he often make me angry, certainly not as much as slow drivers do. He just isn't my first, or anywhere near first, choice for president. The alternative doesn't have to be a socialist, if you want conservative, there are plenty of conservatives out there who would be a much better choice.

If someone is going to come on here and proselytize for their favorite politician, I feel like they should be challenged, otherwise this is just a propaganda board for the federal government and the status quo.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2019 at 14:46
 
A Hill-Harris poll released on Oct. 2 showed Trump with this year’s highest job approval rating (49 percent) and lowest disapproval rating (51 percent). 


https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/464689-new-poll-further-casts-doubt-on-impeachment-effort

How is it possible that Trump's Job Approval is rising when, 90% Trump media coverage is negative? The negative coverage doesn't dent Trump's Base.  Solid as ever.  Maybe folks trust their own eyes and improved lives more than they trust the media?  Maybe they notice more money in their pockets? 

Could it be the lowest unemployment ever?  At 3.5%, practically anybody can get a job.  If your jobless, now is the time find a career!   Maybe lower taxes are responsible?   Could it be that Trump refuses to start a War? Maybe it's because Trump's was the first president to voice pro-gay sentiments, before he ran for office?   

Could it be the Democrat Platform?    Open Borders, Free Healthcare for illegal aliens, 16 Trillion dollar Tax on carbon, abortions for men.  Maybe it's because Biden can't keep his teeth in his mouth, his eyes bleed, inconvenient senior moments while Biden brags about kicking Corn Pop's ass and bribing the Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigating his son.   Dare ya to check out video in my last post.  Watch Biden brag about how he forced Ukraine to fire prosecutor by threatening to withhold Billion Dollars.   "I gave them six hours" Biden boasts.

Could it be because America doesn't trust Liz Warren, after she pretended to be an American Indian to find work at Harvard?  Now Liz claims she got fired for being pregnant.  Problem with that story is- Lix used to tell a different story.  She used to say she moved on from teaching because it wasn't her thing.    If elected president, everybody knows Liz would start a WAR.  The war hawks salivate for Liz.  "She's a lot like Hillary!"

At least Bernie believes what he preaches. I'll give him that.   He loves socialism.  But do American's love socialism?  I don't think so.   And there's Bernie's heart.  Heck, Bernie is the oldest candidate of them all.  On the other hand, Bernie is clear headed and not senile like Biden.  And Bernie doesn't cheat and lie like Warren and Biden.    






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2019 at 15:00
This is a good resource if you want to see more polls than just one:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2019 at 15:14
https://www.oddsshark.com/other/2020-usa-presidential-odds-futures

 Trump is Vegas Odd's Maker Favorite to win 2020!   
Trump +120
Elizabeth Warren +275

The smart money continues to wager Trump wins 2nd Term!  Smart money bets Trump chances more than double Elizabeth Warren.  Trump odds are almost 6 times better than Biden's + 700.  Trump"s odds are 10 times better than Bernie Sanders +1200.

If you think Trump will lose, this is your chance to make a lot of easy money.  Bet $1000 on Warren, if she wins you make $2,750!   Vegas is taking bets now.  Bernie.  $1000 will get you $12,000!   



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 07:03
A nice summary debunking the lies Trump is spreading about Biden:

It would be very fitting if Trump was impeached for believing in the conspiracy bullsh*t Giuliani has been pushing onto him. Sort of karma for the birther conspiracy he had been hawking for years.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 07:20
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told lawmakers she is considering narrowing the House inquiry to Trump's call with the president of Ukraine, but said late last week that she had not excluded the other investigations yet. One lawmaker told POLITICO that even if she focuses on Ukraine, she would quietly allow a couple other issues to be included in the impeachment inquiry, likely including obstruction of justice in the Russia investigation."

I'm not sure I agree with Pelosi in "narrowing" the inquiry. There was enough in the Mueller report for an inquiry in my opinion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 07:59
Schiff reads Trump's phone call to Ukraine.  Problem?  Schiff made up the entire transcript.  The Washington Post and CNN continue to lie too.  Problem.  There's live videos of Joe Biden admitting he bullied Ukraine into firing prosecutor by withholding a billion dollars.   Folks with Trump Derangement Syndrome are afraid to view videos because it will short circuit their cognitive dissonance.  

   Unlike the so-called whistleblower's (2nd hand knowledge), I, Omph have 1st hand knowledge.  I read the transcript of the phone call.   You can have 1st hand knowledge too.  Here's the actual transcript-




What will you do?  Continue to believe fake news or will you read the actual transcript.  After you've read the transcript, then watch the video of Schiff reading the transcript. Can you imagine Schiff handers,
 " Excuse me sir, Trump released the unredacted transcript to the world.  You may want to walk that back a tad, Adam." 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 08:16
^LOL

Schiff began and ended his interpretation of the "essence" of the call with disclaimers. Oops, forgot about that, huh?

Oh yeah, first-hand knowledge means you were in the White House listening to the call with Trump and Zelensky in real time. Oops.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 08:31
  Trump plans to withdraw troops from Syria despite Pro-war democrats and neo-con republicans fear-mongering, like Chicken Little.  I'm sure the anti-peace crowd will find fault in Trump's troop withdrawal.  After Trump's 2nd term, World Citizens will call Trump- The Peace President



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 08:54
^ Everyone is for peace, especially those in the military, but this latest move is just following orders from Master Putin.
The US is a sovereign nation no more as we become more beholden to foreign interests who could care less about us.
Help the victims of the russian invasion:
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 09:16
So, Gordon Sundland has been blocked from testifying before congress, thank goodness. Now we all know that Trump just has to be innocent.
Eat your hearts out, democrats!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 10:34
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Everyone is for peace, especially those in the military, but this latest move is just following orders from Master Putin.
The US is a sovereign nation no more as we become more beholden to foreign interests who could care less about us.
  I thought it was interesting that it also was announced on Putin's birthday.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 11:05
And sadly, this is the eighth time we've betrayed the Kurds...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 13:55
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

https://www.oddsshark.com/other/2020-usa-presidential-odds-futures

 Trump is Vegas Odd's Maker Favorite to win 2020!   
Trump +120
Elizabeth Warren +275

The smart money continues to wager Trump wins 2nd Term!  Smart money bets Trump chances more than double Elizabeth Warren.  Trump odds are almost 6 times better than Biden's + 700.  Trump"s odds are 10 times better than Bernie Sanders +1200.

If you think Trump will lose, this is your chance to make a lot of easy money.  Bet $1000 on Warren, if she wins you make $2,750!   Vegas is taking bets now.  Bernie.  $1000 will get you $12,000!   



 
This is why the Democrats and the liberal Fake News media have been blathering on about impeachment ever since President Trump was first elected (even though he's done nothing wrong), because they know they can't beat him fairly and squarely in an election. Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 20:32
^ If he's "done nothing wrong", then you have nothing to worry about, the impeachment trial will exonerate him and he can go back to doing whatever it is that wealthy politicians like to do.
Help the victims of the russian invasion:
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2019 at 20:35
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

This is a good resource if you want to see more polls than just one:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

word John.. something I've really learned to follow the last few years..  not individual outlier polls by often less than reputable pollsters (looking at in particular that one referenced earlier .. which is one of the lowest rated by 360 for lack of bias and basic stuff like ..you know... good fair methodology). Every major reputable pollster has seen his approval drop.. makes sense.. for it is showing in other polls as well...

speaking of bad news (for some at least) that enjoy cherry picking polls which might surprise

by average of polls.. support for impeachment has doubled among Republicans in the last week.. to nearly one in five.  Nearly half of all independents think he should be impeached.... at some point they are going to realize that Trump is a electoral disaster in the making in 2020 and getting him off a head start to jail cell after the FBI is done with him once out of office... is indeed the best thing that can happen to that party. Really .. perhaps the only thing now that can really save it.. not just now from the alienation of everyone but a distinct white uneducated and rapidly aging out minority of the rest of the country.. but selling their souls to someone that history.. and the next generations of voters.. are going to judge extremely extremely harshly for what he has done to our system and many of our ideals.. note an earlier data point I posted earlier.. 45% of all under 25 in this country identify not just as Democrat.. but progressive/liberal Democrat... 

2032 is coming GOP... LOL



anyhow that is just a average of polls..

the poll that really got tongues wagging if you want to cherry pick polls.. and this one from a much higher regarded and rated pollster than the one mentioned earlier...

nearly 30 percent of Republicans agree with the impeachment inquiry.. and the really staggering part.. 20 percent of Republicans. .again one in five.. not just think he should be impeached.. but convicted.

nice to see not every Republican is a brain dead idiot .. 

as noted earlier.. every impeachment is different.. and still there are fools or just tossing spin about.. out there trying to compare this to 1998 and how there will be backlash.. that somehow Trump benifits from this.. like in 1998 where the Republicans got bitch slapped .. lost seats and Clinton's approval shot way up.

apples and f**king oranges LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2019 at 00:33
President Trump will come out of the impeachment inquiry smelling of roses because he's the Teflon Don and every attack from the bitter and twisted Democrats and liberal Fake News  media only makes Trump stronger than ever before, as we've already seen. President Trump is virtually guaranteed to win a second term in 2020 against whatever loser the Democrats put up against him, so this is why the Democrats are desperately trying to bring him down before then with a phony baloney impeachment inquiry. Smile
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