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someone_else
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Posted: September 22 2019 at 13:43 |
sukmytoe wrote:
Good for them. Their vacuous stares tell me all I need to know about them. If the damn press would allow Trump to get on with his job maybe he could.
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The Donald's oneliners are often spot on. I don't know all his targets, so I am obviously a privileged person  .
BTW, I wonder what he would tweet about people like George Soros or Gretel Thunberg.
Edited by someone_else - September 22 2019 at 15:13
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Lewian
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Posted: September 22 2019 at 14:03 |
Vompatti wrote:
He really is great with words. It does appear that the majority of PA are not intellectually refined enough to appreciate him though.
| There are reasons not to appreciate him other than not understanding him... I wonder what kind of refinement makes sexist sh... a "great one-liner"...
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progaardvark
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Posted: September 23 2019 at 07:14 |
sukmytoe wrote:
If the damn press would allow Trump to get on with his job maybe he could.
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Gee, I didn't know f**king up a country and acting like a big baby was a job.
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BaldJean
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Posted: September 23 2019 at 09:35 |
I just said it in another thread, and I am repeating it here: it is the sad truth that the majority of people have the tendency to
fall for the biggest loudmouth, be his name Trump, Johnson or Hitler.
not that I want to compare their political goals or methods; I just
refer to the fact that they all are or were loudmouths
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 24 2019 at 17:30 |
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
As well as being a Trump supporter, I'm also a big fan of Barack Obama.
I'm sure Barack Obama would have easily won against Trump in 2016 if he'd been allowed to run for a third term. Obama was a whiter than white President who was never involved in a scandal during his entire eight years in office.
| What the hell are you talking about? There are many presidents who would've won a third term if allowed, but didn't because twelve years is too long for one person to be in charge as determined by the Constitution.
"Obama was a whiter-than-white President who was never involved in a scandal" ? Obama was quite a black man in many ways and thank goodness because the last thing we needed was some Uncle Tom pretending to play a white man. The fact that he was never involved in a scandal is testament to his character, not his color. You Brits really have a problem with race. Is it being on a small, isolated island with an incestuous population? Is it the inherent racism that still churns through your veins? Or maybe you're just too young to see the big picture.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Odvin Draoi
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Posted: September 24 2019 at 17:48 |
I think we are living in an age of some sort of Villain vs. Villain, where anti-heroes fight to be the winner of ruining all we value; globally and nationally. It is also the revenge of politics, which has been dragged over the coals by the intellectuals, throughout almost all known history. At least it goes back to the ancients, definitely. We, as public, are trying to bring down the boss' like in a MMORPG game, yet our force is just limited to "save the day".
It is also another evil vs. evil if taken rather widescale, in a way that we are competing to bring the apocalypse via our selected leaders or by spoiling our living spaces ourselves (all that jazz about the climate change etc.). Which shall be victorious?
The only unexpected winner could be the 3rd World War, which likely wouldn't be gentle, either.
I'm not a pessimistic guy, yet on the other hand, I'm not astounded easily. I can only hope for a real change which would make me astonished, in a good way.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: September 24 2019 at 19:43 |
BaldJean wrote:
I just said it in another thread, and I am repeating it here: it is the sad truth that the majority of people have the tendency to
fall for the biggest loudmouth, be his name Trump, Johnson or Hitler.
not that I want to compare their political goals or methods; I just
refer to the fact that they all are or were loudmouths |
It's kind of like in Jr. High and High School when often the biggest jerks are the most popular. I think that says just as much about the mindset of the students as the jerks but unfortunately people confuse assholism with confidence it seems. Also, part of it could be the class clown aspect and maybe people just think of them as entertaining. I'm not entirely sure.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - September 24 2019 at 19:44
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 01:57 |
LOL at all the butthurt liberals on this forum coming in to get their last shots. It's over. The left has eaten itself. If you guys didn't ban straws, you'd have something to grasp for. Trump is going to be president again in 2020.
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
He really is bad with words. It does appear that the majority of PA are not brain dead enough to appreciate him. |
Fixed it for you. 
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You're damn right!
Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - September 25 2019 at 01:58
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sukmytoe
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 03:30 |
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
If the damn press would allow Trump to get on with his job maybe he could.
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Gee, I didn't know f**king up a country and acting like a big baby was a job. |
Ya, Hillary would of really done a good job. How many of the peeps here don their Antifa uniforms every weekend and run about the place howling? Trump actually is trying to save the US from what Soros and the Clinton's were busy bringing into being like a tidal wave. But you can't see that.
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Easy Money
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 05:11 |
^ What exactly is trump supposedly saving us from?
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Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446
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progaardvark
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 06:04 |
sukmytoe wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
If the damn press would allow Trump to get on with his job maybe he could.
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Gee, I didn't know f**king up a country and acting like a big baby was a job. |
Ya, Hillary would of really done a good job. How many of the peeps here don their Antifa uniforms every weekend and run about the place howling? Trump actually is trying to save the US from what Soros and the Clinton's were busy bringing into being like a tidal wave. But you can't see that.
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Whataboutism is a cop-out. Trump is only concerned about saving his own ass. But you can't see that, can you?
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sukmytoe
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 07:02 |
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
If the damn press would allow Trump to get on with his job maybe he could.
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Gee, I didn't know f**king up a country and acting like a big baby was a job. |
Ya, Hillary would of really done a good job. How many of the peeps here don their Antifa uniforms every weekend and run about the place howling? Trump actually is trying to save the US from what Soros and the Clinton's were busy bringing into being like a tidal wave. But you can't see that.
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Whataboutism is a cop-out. Trump is only concerned about saving his own ass. But you can't see that, can you? |
With the amount of insane attacks on him all the time which are disproven all the time I'm not suprised. The left who are so dumb these days it's frightening just don't let up with theory after theory that get discredited. The Dems are so rabid that they're starting to melt down - I'm suprised they don't foam at the mouth.
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Easy Money
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 07:10 |
Nope, its not just the 'liberals' and the democrats. Here is a critique of trump's failures from conservative republican William Weld:
"We've had 2 1/2 years almost to see what he does, and I, for one, don't think it's a pretty picture," Weld, who is the only GOP challenger to Trump in the 2020 presidential primary so far, told Hill.TV hosts Saagar Enjeti and Krystal Ball last week.
"Part of what's not pretty is that the president has seen spending go up, or gone right along with spending going up, to the tune of a trillion-dollar deficit every year," Weld said. "His most recent budget added $7.9 trillion to the deficit. Admittedly, it was a multiyear budget, but it gets us up to $30 trillion of deficit."
"I think that raises a big issue of fairness because you know who's going to pay for that? The millennials, you guys," he added. "My generation's not going to pay for that, and the burden is going to fall on you all."
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Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446
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sukmytoe
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 08:43 |
Easy Money wrote:
Nope, its not just the 'liberals' and the democrats. Here is a critique of trump's failures from conservative republican William Weld:
"We've had 2 1/2 years almost to see what he does, and I, for one, don't think it's a pretty picture," Weld, who is the only GOP challenger to Trump in the 2020 presidential primary so far, told Hill.TV hosts Saagar Enjeti and Krystal Ball last week.
"Part of what's not pretty is that the president has seen spending go up, or gone right along with spending going up, to the tune of a trillion-dollar deficit every year," Weld said. "His most recent budget added $7.9 trillion to the deficit. Admittedly, it was a multiyear budget, but it gets us up to $30 trillion of deficit."
"I think that raises a big issue of fairness because you know who's going to pay for that? The millennials, you guys," he added. "My generation's not going to pay for that, and the burden is going to fall on you all." |
Trump has had 2 1/2 years of massive time wastage due to the constant attacks from the left so I don't think you can judge his performance fairly. He's had just about every policy delayed or challenged in a full on attack that persists from the now fully deranged left and from an arguable deep state who love the idea of a socialist USA.
As for the future of who will pay for what - the future, right now, does not exist yet and although forecasts can be made tomorrow is never a definite.
Further than that - it takes money as well as effort to correct what is wrong and, believe me, USA before Trump - was really going wrong. Entities like the Clinton's had just about taken ownership of the full future of the country. If you don't see what's wrong with that then I can't help you and I don't know that I'm that interested in helping you.
Entities like Soros and the Clinton Foundation want ownership of the USA because if they get it then the rest of the world hasn't much of a hope further on of being anything like what we think it will be. If you like being owned and your life being pretty much scripted for you - then go for it. If not - wake up.
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Easy Money
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 09:00 |
^ In other words no one should have a different opinion than the big Hollywood TV star. Everyone should just roll over and play dead and let trump be the ambitious elitist billionaire that he has always been and let him have his way.
No thanks, I don't want a dictatorship, I welcome differing opinions, debate and compromise. There are plenty of Conservatives, Libertarians and republicans who see through the facade and recognize trump as the self serving corrupt con artist he really is.
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Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446
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BaldFriede
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 10:09 |
sukmytoe wrote:
Easy Money wrote:
Nope, its not just the 'liberals' and the democrats. Here is a critique of trump's failures from conservative republican William Weld:
"We've had 2 1/2 years almost to see what he does, and I, for one, don't think it's a pretty picture," Weld, who is the only GOP challenger to Trump in the 2020 presidential primary so far, told Hill.TV hosts Saagar Enjeti and Krystal Ball last week.
"Part of what's not pretty is that the president has seen spending go up, or gone right along with spending going up, to the tune of a trillion-dollar deficit every year," Weld said. "His most recent budget added $7.9 trillion to the deficit. Admittedly, it was a multiyear budget, but it gets us up to $30 trillion of deficit."
"I think that raises a big issue of fairness because you know who's going to pay for that? The millennials, you guys," he added. "My generation's not going to pay for that, and the burden is going to fall on you all." |
Trump has had 2 1/2 years of massive time wastage due to the constant attacks from the left so I don't think you can judge his performance fairly. He's had just about every policy delayed or challenged in a full on attack that persists from the now fully deranged left and from an arguable deep state who love the idea of a socialist USA.
As for the future of who will pay for what - the future, right now, does not exist yet and although forecasts can be made tomorrow is never a definite.
Further than that - it takes money as well as effort to correct what is wrong and, believe me, USA before Trump - was really going wrong. Entities like the Clinton's had just about taken ownership of the full future of the country. If you don't see what's wrong with that then I can't help you and I don't know that I'm that interested in helping you.
Entities like Soros and the Clinton Foundation want ownership of the USA because if they get it then the rest of the world hasn't much of a hope further on of being anything like what we think it will be. If you like being owned and your life being pretty much scripted for you - then go for it. If not - wake up. | The Trump Organization on the other hand does of course have no such goals. It is a completely benevolent and humanitarian organization.
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progaardvark
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 10:18 |
sukmytoe wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
If the damn press would allow Trump to get on with his job maybe he could.
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Gee, I didn't know f**king up a country and acting like a big baby was a job. |
Ya, Hillary would of really done a good job. How many of the peeps here don their Antifa uniforms every weekend and run about the place howling? Trump actually is trying to save the US from what Soros and the Clinton's were busy bringing into being like a tidal wave. But you can't see that.
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Whataboutism is a cop-out. Trump is only concerned about saving his own ass. But you can't see that, can you? |
With the amount of insane attacks on him all the time which are disproven all the time I'm not suprised. The left who are so dumb these days it's frightening just don't let up with theory after theory that get discredited. The Dems are so rabid that they're starting to melt down - I'm suprised they don't foam at the mouth.
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I'm certain that you're wrong about "theory after theory that get discredited." Maybe you ought to start looking at more reliable sources of journalism, bud.
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 15:55 |
Never argue with a Trumpist. It's like trying to hug a fart.
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 16:10 |
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
sukmytoe wrote:
If the damn press would allow Trump to get on with his job maybe he could.
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Gee, I didn't know f**king up a country and acting like a big baby was a job. |
Ya, Hillary would of really done a good job. How many of the peeps here don their Antifa uniforms every weekend and run about the place howling? Trump actually is trying to save the US from what Soros and the Clinton's were busy bringing into being like a tidal wave. But you can't see that.
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Whataboutism is a cop-out. Trump is only concerned about saving his own ass. But you can't see that, can you? |
With the amount of insane attacks on him all the time which are disproven all the time I'm not suprised. The left who are so dumb these days it's frightening just don't let up with theory after theory that get discredited. The Dems are so rabid that they're starting to melt down - I'm suprised they don't foam at the mouth.
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I'm certain that you're wrong about "theory after theory that get discredited." Maybe you ought to start looking at more reliable sources of journalism, bud. |
Yup, but Trumpists will never, ever accept anything that isn't deifying of the mobster. A simple recent example that they will explain away and justify, or just flat-out ignore, is him having to pay out a paltry $25 million in damages to the people he swindled with his real estate pyramid scheme disguised as a school.
And he's embroiled at this very moment in the scheme to gain outside influence in our next election. And that's not theories, it's nothing more devious than the very words that came out of his own mouth.
But, this is the man who said he could shoot someone in the face on 5th Avenue and he wouldn't lose a single supporter. And we know that's disturbingly true. I'd go so far as to say he could spit-roast a migrant child on the border and not lose a single supporter. And when the pop-up prisons his friends have built to house them are full, then he will start burning people to make room for more. And we'll still see that 30% not waver. And then we'll be into something that will take the world to stop from continuing.
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TCat
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Posted: September 25 2019 at 19:30 |
Love live Progressive Rock. This site is where I come to get away from Trump-ty Bump-ty. See ya!
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