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I don't know many modern movies that fit this... "Wings of Desire", "Dogtooth", "Buffalo '66", "American Beauty"
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Posted: August 22 2019 at 08:03 |
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I can’t remember whether or not I’ve mentioned these before, but here goes anyway as I think you’d find them all pretty funny.
Anders Thomas Jensen has made 4 films that all are wildly different from one another regarding general storyline, characters and whatnot, but there is a distinct black and wholly Danish kind of humour incorporated into them all that sort of takes a cue from Monty Python and then adds realism on steroids and a modern Pulp Fictionesque form of violence. Blinkende Lygter (my dad worked on this) De Grønne s.l.a.g.t.e.r.e. (Had to insert some dots so as to sneak pass the censor thang) Adams Æbler Mænd og Høns Features everything from laissez-faire violence in the most odd (and funny) of places, shooting cows with machine guns, bad tennis player turned drunkard, pie baking, theological ponderings, Take That, cannibalism, blowing Easter eggs Danish style, autism and all around weird conversations. Mads Mikkelsen and a bunch of other famous Danish actors that now also are fairly known in the big wide world all feature in these films...making them somewhat related in the cast and general ‘feel’ of them all. Edited by Guldbamsen - August 22 2019 at 08:05 |
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Posted: August 18 2019 at 17:11 |
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^ the French are right, he's a genius, his solo films from the early 60s are hilarious. The Bellboy, Ladies Man, The Patsy, Nutty Professor, The Disorderly Orderly, Errand Boy, all great. Edited by Atavachron - August 18 2019 at 17:15 |
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Posted: August 18 2019 at 16:41 |
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I loved Jerry Lewis particularly in Funny Bones. From about the same time there's Tim Burton's very charming Ed Wood film.
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Posted: August 18 2019 at 10:45 |
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The King of Comedy . |
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Posted: August 18 2019 at 08:22 |
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Hi,
I went through the menus on my website for reviews, and here is a small listing of some things ... these, for the most part, are not exactly well known films, and I trimmed my list from the films that had some Academy Awards or some visible nature or other. In general, I'm not sure that any of these films got a wide release, since so many of them belong in an "art house", and the media (in general) does not reflect, and neither does it respect anything that is not a part of the company's groups and films that they produce and have a vested interest in ... for this reason alone, you will always find the "independent" a much better producer of films, however, this creates a big problem for European distributors ... in the past 10 years, since video stores died, the number of foreign films I can catch has dropped severely with the awful index in places like Netflix that will not search for a film that you asked for ... it will still give you 50 tons of sh*t that you are not interested in! These are just ... oddball films you could say, though that is not one of my words in my vocabulary in film and in the arts ... I tend to like the oddballs because that is where you find the folks experimenting with the medium, and that is fun to watch and enjoy. A Woman's Tale An Angel at My Table Walkabout After The Fox Bad Timing, A Sensual Obsession Caravaggio Castaway (the original) King Lear (Peter Brook's) Marat/Sade Orlando Performance Prospero's Books Savage Messiah The Crying Game Godard's King Lear Jean de Florette/Manon of the Spring Le Fantome de la Liberte Aguirre, The Wrath of God Allegro Non Troppo Little Buddha The Icicle Thief 32 Short Films About Glenn Gould Babette's Feast High Heels Intervista Journey of Hope The Island on Bird Street Burnt By The Sun Carmen (Carlos Saura) El Maestro de Esgrima (Olea) Basquiat Henry and June |
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Posted: August 18 2019 at 02:08 |
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Sound Of My Voice (probably my favourite movie from the 21st century) Another Earth The Handmaiden The Duke of Burgundy Mandy
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Bigger on the inside.
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Posted: August 18 2019 at 01:27 |
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Anything by Werner Herzog.
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Posted: August 17 2019 at 22:38 |
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"Hunger" about IRA hunger-striker Bobby Sands was a great piece of modern film-making. Michael Fassbender was splendid in the lead role. The film is notable for a 17 minute-long unbroken dialogue scene between Sands and a priest in prison...
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Posted: August 17 2019 at 18:57 |
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While I'm at it: Import Export by Ulrich Seidl and Underground by Emir Kusturica.
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Posted: August 17 2019 at 11:40 |
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^ Noted, thank you.
Sorry about the list being so long which I copy-pasted from a director's topic poll of mine (for those who didn't click on the link or see that topic before), I guess I sometimes have too much time on my hands. Laundry/ grocery type lists do tend to make for boring reading, and I doubt that topic really excited anyone (I sometimes do get excited when I see polls mentioning my favourites, especially when I can discuss those choices with the topic starter). I used to read a lot of books on film studies, and the most boring textbook of them for me incorporated very long lists in the text again and again. Examples are important, but it was done excessively in every chapter and broke up the flow. I've seen Festen. By the way, when I was taking a film course at about the turn of the millennium, I was disappointed that my professor was totally unfamiliar with Dogme 95. I probably learnt about that first, though, because I was a regular reader of the Sight & Sound magazine (from the BFI). Force Majeure is one that I have meant to see. I like topics that jog me memory. Thanks for all the ones you've mentioned and ones to look into (I do also hope that some off my topics have got someone to check out something that I know and like). I'm definitely into realistic psychological films (a psych component/angle is what really interests with many films, shows and novels). |
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Posted: August 17 2019 at 11:06 |
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MacGyver can do a super guitar solo with a broom and an elastic band. Can you do better?
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Lewian
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Posted: August 17 2019 at 10:33 |
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Much of what I like most are realistic psychological films, not sure whether that's your cup of tea, but if it is, I add Festen by Vinterberg (first Danish Dogma film) and Force Majeure from Sweden. Also that's what Ashgar Farhadi does, maybe start with "About Elly" or "A Separation". Most episodes from Wild Tales (Argentina) are very worthwhile. That one is actually very funny. Otherwise your list is far too long for even checking whether what I recommend is already on it... but I'd probably agree with you on the vast majority of those. The Italian version of City of God by the way is Gomorra, very similar quality in my view. (Thanks for making me collect some of the best films I've seen in the last 20 years or so here. Had forgotten a number of titles and now they're all back...) Edited by Lewian - August 17 2019 at 10:48 |
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Posted: August 17 2019 at 09:50 |
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Moshkito, I'm well aware of Buñuel and Godard, and The Exterminating Angel and Los Olvidados did have an effect on me. One reason why I'm looking for more modern films here is because of my familiarity with the classics (and I have done past topics that cover other eras). That said, of course there are many older great films that I must have missed. In this poll, I mentioned lots of my favourite directors and films from each of them:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115056 My list then, including films (lots more I could have listed, and some here I like more than others): Woody Allen - Sleeper, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask), Casino Royale Pedro Almodóvar - Talk to Her, All About My Mother, Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Robert Altman - The Player, Vincent & Theo, Nashville Lindsay Anderson - if..., O Lucky Man, This Sporting Life Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood, Punch-Drunk Love, Boogie Nights Wes Anderson - The Grand Budapest Hotel, The Royal Tenenbaums, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou Theo Angelopoulos - The Travelling Players, Eternity and a Day, Ulysses' Gaze Michelangelo Antonioni - L'Avventura, La Notte, The Passenger Denys Arcand - Jesus of Montreal, The Decline of the American Empire, The Barbarian Invasions Hal Ashby - Harold and Maude, Being There Ingmar Bergman - Through a Glass Darkly, Wild Strawberries, The Seventh Seal Bong Joon-ho - The Host, Memories of Murder, Snowpiercer John Boorman - Zardoz, Deliverance, Excalibur Robert Bresson - Diary of a Country Priest, Mouchette, The Trial of Joan of Arc Luis Buñuel - The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Belle de Jour, The Exterminating Angel Chen Kaige - Yellow Earth, Farewell My Concubine, Temptress Moon Jean Cocteau - Orpheus, Beauty and the Beast Joel & Ethan Coen - Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink, Fargo or The Big Lebowski) Francis Ford Coppola - Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, The Godfather: Part 2 David Cronenberg - Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Spider (love so much of his) Atom Egoyan - The Sweet Hereafter, Exotica, Felicia's Journey Sergei M. Eisenstein - Alexander Nevsky, Battleship Potemkin, Ivan the Terrible Rainer Werner Fassbinder - World on a Wire (TV miniseries), Fox and His Friends, Despair Federico Fellini - La Dolce Vita, 8½, Fellini's Satyricon David Fincher - Se7en, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Fight Cub Terry Gilliam - Brazil, Time Bandits, Twelve Monkeys Jonathan Glazer - Under the Skin, Sexy Beast Jean-Luc Godard - Alphaville, Breathless, La Chinoise Michel Gondry - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Science of Sleep Peter Greenaway - Drowning by Numbers, The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover, 8 ½ Women Michael Haneke - Funny Games (1997), Code Unknown, The Piano Teacher Robin Hardy - The Wicker Man (1973) Todd Haynes - Far From Heaven, Velvet Goldmine Werner Herzog - Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Fitzcarraldo, Where the Green Ants Dream Hirokazu Kore-eda - After Life, Air Doll, Nobody Knows Alfred Hitchcock - Psycho, The Birds, Vertigo Agnieszka Holland - Olivier, Olivier, Europa, Europa Hou Hsiao-hsien - Flowers of Shanghai, Taipei Story, A Time to Live, A Time to Die Shohei Imamura - Black Rain, Vengeance is Mine, The Insect Woman Juzo Itami - Tampopo, The Funeral, A Taxing Woman Jim Jarmusch - Mystery Train, Stranger than Paradise, Night on Earth Jean-Pierre Jeunet - Delicatessen, The City of Lost Children, Amélie Terry Jones - Monty Python and the Holy Grail (with Gilliam), Life of Brian, The Meaning of Life Spike Jonze - Her, Being John Malkovich, Adaptation Alejandro Jodorowsky - The Holy Mountain, El Topo Aki Kaurismaki - The Man Without a Past, Juha, Drifting Clouds Abbas Kiarostami - Taste of Cherry, The Wind Will Carry Us, Where is the Friend's Home? Krzysztof Kieślowski - Dekalog (tv miniseries); Three Colours Trilogy: Blue, White, Red; The Double Life of Veronique Takeshi Kitano - Fireworks, Kikujiro Stanley Kubrick - A Clockwork Orange, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Shining, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Akira Kurosawa - Dodes'ka-den, Rashomon, Ran Fritz Lang - M, Metropolis, Contempt Yorgos Lanthimos - Dogtooth, The Lobster, The Killing of a Sacred Deer Ray Lawrence - Bliss (not in the poll, but I love this film) Ang Lee - Eat Drink Man Woman; Lust, Caution; Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Mike Leigh - Naked, Secrets & Lies, Life is Sweet Jens Lien - The Bothersome Man, Sons of Norway Sergio Leone - The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, For a Few Dollars More, Once Upon a Time in the West Ken Loach - Riff-Raff, Raining Stones, Land and Freedom Bigas Luna - Jamón, Jamón; La teta y la luna; Golden Balls David Lynch - Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet, Eraserhead Terrence Malick - The Tree of Life, Days of Heaven, The Thin Red Line George Miller - Mad Max and Mad Max II (The Road Warrior) Hayao Miyazaki - Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle Gaspar Noé - Enter the Void, Irreversible Yasujirō Ozu - Tokyo Story, Tokyo Twilight, A Story of Floating Weeds Peter Weir - Gallipoli, Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Year of Living Dangerously, The Truman Show Park Chan-wook - Oldboy, Lady Vengeance, I'm a Cyborg but That's OK Wolfgang Petersen - Das Boot, Consequence He Ping - Red Firecracker, Green Firecracker; Wheat Satyajit Ray- The World of Apu, Aparajito, Pather Panchali Jean Renoir - The Rules of the Game, The Grand Illusion, La Chienne Alan Resnais - Night and Fog, Hiroshia Mon Amour, Last Year at Marienbad Jacques Rivette - The Nun, Celine and Julie Go Boating, Paris Belongs to Us Nicolas Roeg - The Man Who Fell to Earth, Don't Look Now, Walkabout Éric Rohmer- Pauline at the Beach, Claire's Knee, My Night at Maud's Walter Salles - Central Station, The Motorcycle Diaries, Behind the Sun John Schlesinger - Sunday Bloody Sunday, Midnight Cowboy, Marathon Man Martin Scorsese - Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore Vittorio De Sica - Umberto D., Bicycle Thieves, Two Women Volker Schlöndorff - The Tin Drum, The Ogre, The Ninth Day Ridley Scott - Alien, The Duellists, Blade Runner Tony Scott - The Hunger Todd Solondz - Happiness, Welcome to the Dollhouse, Palindromes Oliver Stone - Natural Born Killers, Salvador, Platoon Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill Volumes 1 & 2, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown Andrei Tarkovsky - Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris Béla Tarr - Damnation, The Prefab People Lars von Trier - The Element of Crime, Europa, Melancholia François Truffaut - Fahrenheit 451, The 400 Blows, Jules et Jim Tsui Hark - Butterfly Murders, Once Upon a Time in China, Zu: Warriors from the Magic Mountain Tom Tykwer - Run Lola Run, Winter Sleepers, Heaven Denis Villeneuve - Maelstrom, Sicario, Arrival (he also directed Blade Runner 2049) Luchino Visconti - The Damned, The Leopard, Ossessione Wim Wenders - Paris, Texas; Wings of Desire; Until the End of the World Michael Winterbottom - Code 46, Wonderland Robert Wise - The Andromeda Strain (really why I included him), The Haunting, Star Trek: The Motion Picture Edgar Wright - Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, The World's End Wong Kar-wai - In the Mood for Love, 2046, Ashes of Time Zhang Yimou - Red Sorghum, Ju Dou, Raise the Red Lantern ----------------------- ^ Seen and enjoyed They Shoot Horses, Don't They? ^^ Love Being John Malkovich, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Run Lola Run (Lola rennt), I saw those in the cinema when they came out here. I wrote a review of Run Lola Run when it came it on video, which I ended with "Rennt Lola rennt, rennt it today." Once Upon a Time in Anatolia I've seen, and was very impressed with it. I also liked City of God. Others I have not seen, and will be looking into, thanks. I like a wide variety of things, from surreal mind-benders, sci-fi, fantasy and horror, to kitchen sink realism. I watch a lot of subtitled films, and a lot of films that gets labelled art house cinema. I will definitely look for "Halbe Treppe". Speaking of Indian films, at the multiplex cinema closest to me, at least half of the films are Indian as that area has a huge Punjabi population, and I have wanted to try some of those, but I think the ones that would interest me would more likely be at the Art House cinemas, and at the Vancouver International Film Festival, in Vancouver proper. Thanks for all the recommendations and mentions of so many great films. Edited by Logan - August 17 2019 at 10:11 |
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Posted: August 17 2019 at 07:08 |
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They Shoot Horses Don't They and the full movie is on YouTube |
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Your descriptions made me think first of Being John Malkovich and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I love some other great films that aren't connected that much to the things you have yet written about but should count as "off beat". I love pretty much everything Ashgar Farhadi did. "Halbe Treppe" is one of my favourite German films, it probably exists with English subtitles, however not sure whether it works that well if you're not proficient in German. It's hilarious, but rather in a realistic down to earth way. Another fun German film, fairly well known abroad, is Run Lola Run. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia from Turkey is stunning. I recently watched Roma from Mexico and it was great. Some of my favourite films from the London Film Festival were actually Indian. Maybe the number one film I ever saw at the Film Festival was "Court". I tend to watch pretty realistic things,no monsters, super heroes etc. Not sure whether that's your taste. Talvar was great, too. From Russia we have Leviathan and How I Ended This Summer. From Brasil City of God. From South Korea Burning and Poetry. Enough for now...
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Hi,
I'm not even sure that I can add to this ... I think that the word "modern" throws me off, since it could easily be said that some of the things I see and review are totally strange or off-beat films ... and in my eyes and vision, there are not many film makers that go past Luis Bunuel and Jean-Luc Godard ... in terms of strangeness and total off the wall weirdness that is really hard to even say something about. The middle stuff by Luis Bunuel, is really nutz and crazy, and when you see things like Viridiana and its ending, you will go ... wow ... what was that for? But it is, and besides it being crazy, hilarious and amazing ... and later in one of his last films, several other paintings were also alive ... and I'm not sure that we know those kinds of things or even understand them .... or seeing the end of NAZARIN, when a pineapple ends the story ... which had the famous painting of JC laughing that so many churches at the time hated! Jean-Luc is one of the worst, and hardest film makers, specially for Americans, since his work intentionally makes fun of all film conventions and sometimes he drives you up a wall and get mad. You don't realize the camera movement in a film doing a track left away from the two lovers discussing their relationship and all of a sudden, this camera is hearing other things and it goes quite far and then later comes back ... and it throws you off terribly ... ohhh the relationship is not important ... why did he do that? There is no "sense" in these things, but it is exactly the same thing that we would DO, but since "entertainment" is about the drink we want ... it can't be done or seen, or appreciated ... and this kind of stuff is totally off kilter and crazy, not to mention the odd stuff, like music in the wrong place, and then dialogue over it on purpose, and then ... if that's not enough, you get Godard over it thinking about it! And worse ... all of a sudden, a cup of coffee gets a little cream and it creates these nice lines in the turning and movement of the spoon and he goes into a philosophical rant about the universe ... and you watch and go ... what? how's this a part of the story in the film? That's not the point ... it really is just a story, so to speak, filmed by a child, and as such he goes left and something goes right and then he has something else ... stories in Godard films are an illusion ... to be busted and broken with everything possible in his arsenal. There is a problem ... most film go'ers can't handle that stuff ... even if Tarantino thinks that he is paying his respects to Godard, and is only giving you 4 seconds worth ... a vapid and terribly frustrating "nothing", for the sake of "nothing" ... well, that's a bit on the Godard side of things, but in an American film? Wasted! Both Terry Gilliam and the duo of Jeunot et Cairo owe these two a lot ... and if you want to see something weird, try ... the early Bunuel ... see things like THE EXTERMINATING ANGEL, LOS OLVIDADOS, for things that to this day, so few people can relate to and try to figure out ... and yet, they have moments that are simply ... wow!
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^
 Seen Swiss Army Man and liked it; it definitely fits the topic.^^ Will have to look into those that DrWu mentioned. There's so much good stuff out there, but it can be difficult to find and watch. ------------------------- Off from a black comedy/dramedy angle, a couple of horror films I watched and liked not that long ago were Apostle (one I liked much more than many critics, but I'm into folk horror) and The VVitch. And Hereditary was very good, but kind of hard to watch. The Babadook was another that I had really enjoyed. Edited by Logan - August 16 2019 at 14:29 |
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MacGyver can do a super guitar solo with a broom and an elastic band. Can you do better?
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I saw an ad for Perpetual Grace but it looked like a crime drama.....but after your comments I'll ck it out. (Epix is an xtra fee...sadly..)
I recommend 'Preacher'....but it's also an acquired taste. 'Lodge 49' is fun in a quirky comedy manner...and 'The Rook' is a decent Brit sci-fi thing with a secret agency of mutant spies. btw..those are all cable series... 'Identity' with John Cusack.....a strange thriller. I also liked 'The Raven' where he plays Edgar Allen Poe. Edited by dr wu23 - August 16 2019 at 12:43 |
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